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Author:  Pierre [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
neoswordmaster wrote:
X was my first proper Final Fantasy.

Gameplay was pretty solid. The storytelling could use some work though.


I thought it was great one of the best.

Apart from a whiny makes-you-wanna-break-his-face main character.
But fortunately X is one of the games that doesn't bind the main character into your party so it kinda evened out a little.
Author:  dullahan1 [ Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
One of the few FF games where Haste is actually good if not close to being near broken in that game if used with moves like Delay Attack and Quick Hit.
Author:  Franzise Deauxnim [ Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
Uh... Haste is pretty good in most of the Final Fantasy games.
Author:  dullahan1 [ Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
I actually find it useless in a lot of them. I only found it good in the NES ones, and FFX. Haste in the other games didn't make much of a difference for me. Slow on the other hand was way more useful in the games than haste was, which is odd but true for me. Especially in the ATB FF games it was always filling at a constant rate where I really had no worry to feel the need to haste, especially in FFVI. The only time I found haste useful in FFVII was in conjunction with Regen.
Author:  8zack8 [ Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
and about grid sphere system... we can make our fave chara can using another chara ability...

first i thought its very hard to understand where the line's will be guide XD
Author:  Franzise Deauxnim [ Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
Slow would be better if so many enemies didn't have immunity to it.

And when I play VI I always equip my characters with Hermes Sandals unless there's two other accessories they absolutely need more. It's hard to beat an effect that essentially gives you two actions in the time it'd normally take to perform one.
Author:  dullahan1 [ Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
I actually found out in FFIV that slow isn't considered a status problem at all so hardly anyone is immune to it in that game. Even Zeromus is susceptible to it, which I find nice. The fact that it can stack too is a bonus. It gets abusive to a point where they're almost completely stopped.

As for VI, I guess I just didn't see a point in hasting as the ATB meter just moved fast enough for me as it was. The way it was set up, it would still go when a character performed an action rather than stop like in other games so I saw no point for it myself since as a character was performing an action, I could get another one prepared. If not for that system, Cyan would be a pain to use.
Author:  Pierre [ Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
dullahan1 wrote:
I actually found out in FFIV that slow isn't considered a status problem at all so hardly anyone is immune to it in that game. Even Zeromus is susceptible to it, which I find nice. The fact that it can stack too is a bonus. It gets abusive to a point where they're almost completely stopped.


I know I thought it was ridiculous how easy it was to slow enemies.

It was categorised as a time effect in IV I guess which is why haste is the only cure I think.
But I didn't know it could stack :yuusaku:
Thats kinda horrible for the opponent.
Author:  dullahan1 [ Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
Yeah, it was a long time before I actually figured that out. I don't think Haste stacks though if I recall.
Author:  Marche Tobaye [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
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This is why I wish Amano would return. HH summed up my feelings towards Nomura pretty nicely.

Holy Hell wrote:
Nomura is like the worst of pixiv and deviantart smashed together to retread territory and look retarded. He doesn't even try anymore. Fans eat up his shit so he doesn't bother.
Author:  Pierre [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
Marche Tobaye wrote:
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This is why I wish Amano would return. HH summed up my feelings towards Nomura pretty nicely.

[quote=Holy Hell]Nomura is like the worst of pixiv and deviantart smashed together to retread territory and look retarded. He doesn't even try anymore. Fans eat up his shit so he doesn't bother.
[/quote]

I can't stand Amano much, liked his Steiner and Amarant and Vivi graphics on the FFIX Disks but other than that I don't think he can draw a masculine man and make him look good.

I've got nothing against Nomura really.
Author:  dullahan1 [ Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
Old, but throwing it in there.
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/sh ... d=26289465
Pierre wrote:
I can't stand Amano much, liked his Steiner and Amarant and Vivi graphics on the FFIX Disks but other than that I don't think he can draw a masculine man and make him look good.

Apparently, neither can Nomura.

I'm sorry, but I'll take Amano's designs over Nomura's anydays. Nomura's designs are just completely outrageous and stupid most of the time. His fascination with zippers and belts and everyone looking like they have the mentality of a 5 year old when it comes to dressing themselves doesn't appeal to me. I mean c'mon, look at Tidus.
Author:  Furio The Shopkeeper [ Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
I'm playing in this period Final Fantasy VII on PS One (yeah, I ordered it by eBay :D) and...I DON'T WANT TO GO AHEAD IN THE ADVENTURE! :payne:

This because I can't find Yuffie and Vincent...

[SPOILER]This doesn't mean that I'm at the beginning, absolutely ^^'''!
I finally get the airship "Highwind" after escaped from Shinra that hit Weapon and slept Scarlet (lol)!
Now, where I'm supposed to go for join the other two characters :( ?
Is it necessary join them, or not? Damn, I hate Square Enix in these cases <_<[SPOILER/]
Author:  dullahan1 [ Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
I think you might have missed Vincent, but Yuffie can be found in a forest as a random encounter any time in the game. Yuffie is better than Vincent imo anyways. She has one of the best level 3 limit breaks and is seriously underrated as a playable character. If you can get past her sometimes annoying personality, she's a great character. Vincent is just brooding and depressing and I personally don't care for his overdrives.
Author:  Pierre [ Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
dullahan1 wrote:
I think you might have missed Vincent, but Yuffie can be found in a forest as a random encounter any time in the game. Yuffie is better than Vincent imo anyways. She has one of the best level 3 limit breaks and is seriously underrated as a playable character. If you can get past her sometimes annoying personality, she's a great character. Vincent is just brooding and depressing and I personally don't care for his overdrives.


And the fact she screws over your materia at one point.

I wasn't sure if there was a timer on Vincent but he's not so bad.
He's the next best magic user after Aeris....y'know.
As for their ultimate weapons both are horrendously powerful. Vincent's deals more damage as you kill more enemies, this cumulates through all battles. Yuffie's deals higher damage to stronger opponents and with morph materia equipped it deals practically the same damage rather than the massively reduced damage morph normally causes.
Author:  dullahan1 [ Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
I just always liked Yuffie more than Vincent because her limit break can go past the 9999 damage cap when accumulating total damage while Vincent cannot. The only other people to do this in game are Cloud and Vincent and that's with their level 4 limit breaks while Yuffie's is level 3, giving her the best level 3 limit break in the game imo.
Author:  Pierre [ Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
dullahan1 wrote:
I just always liked Yuffie more than Vincent because her limit break can go past the 9999 damage cap when accumulating total damage while Vincent cannot. The only other people to do this in game are Cloud and Vincent and that's with their level 4 limit breaks while Yuffie's is level 3, giving her the best level 3 limit break in the game imo.


Cloud and who? Thought you said Vincent couldn't? True Vincent's final limit isn't the best final limit ever but he's still got a solid weapon and awesome magic right?
Author:  dullahan1 [ Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
Ha. I meant Barret. Silly me having a one track mind. XD
Author:  jonathanrp [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
Knocking the topic to a diferent game; can anyone help me with the wifi parts of Final Fantasy III? I need to send a couple of messages to another game, then I'll get the onion knight/iron golem stuff.
If so, thanks :D
Author:  Pierre [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
jonathanrp wrote:
Knocking the topic to a diferent game; can anyone help me with the wifi parts of Final Fantasy III? I need to send a couple of messages to another game, then I'll get the onion knight/iron golem stuff.
If so, thanks :D


You need friends for most of that stuff.

Just send and receive messages to them and I think the NPCs send you letters with a quest that will unlock onion knight/optional dungeon/etc.
Author:  Tap [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
No! I just noticed the first post and VIII is apart of the hated games list. Why? I personally preferred the junction and magic system to the others. It allowed characters to develop easier. Plus,

Spoiler:
Ultimecia's the only one to ever aim for something other than destroying the world.
Author:  Marche Tobaye [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
I'm not a fan of FF pairings but I sort of like SetzerxTerra.
Author:  Pierre [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
Ptapcc wrote:
No! I just noticed the first post and VIII is apart of the hated games list. Why? I personally preferred the junction and magic system to the others. It allowed characters to develop easier. Plus,

Spoiler:
Ultimecia's the only one to ever aim for something other than destroying the world.



In response to that spoiler tag:

Spoiler: Ahem various games
FFXII: It's a simple war between 2 countries, the final villain is one country's leader. FFIX= Kuja started of as a magical weapons warmonger. FFXIII: Looks like it's just a military power wanting to commit genocide one the main characters.


I like Setzer full stop.
Author:  Marche Tobaye [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
inorite? Setzer is probably my favourite character in the series.

It's a shame that they royally fucked up his character in KH2.
Author:  Franzise Deauxnim [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
Ptapcc wrote:
No! I just noticed the first post and VIII is apart of the hated games list. Why? I personally preferred the junction and magic system to the others. It allowed characters to develop easier. Plus,

Spoiler:
Ultimecia's the only one to ever aim for something other than destroying the world.

More like it made characters completely interchangable. Considering the only realistic way to get through battles is to spam summons since physical attacks are pathetic and using magic weakens you, there's little to no reason to use one character over another outside of graphical preference.

And I personally didn't enjoy having battles last half an hour while you drain magic from the enemies. Nor a plot with no direction for much of the game starring a guy with the personality of pocket lint and one of the biggest Mary Sue heroines ever.
Author:  jonathanrp [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
Pierre wrote:
jonathanrp wrote:
Knocking the topic to a diferent game; can anyone help me with the wifi parts of Final Fantasy III? I need to send a couple of messages to another game, then I'll get the onion knight/iron golem stuff.
If so, thanks :D


You need friends for most of that stuff.

Just send and receive messages to them and I think the NPCs send you letters with a quest that will unlock onion knight/optional dungeon/etc.

Ah, but none of my friends seem to have any of the Final Fantasy DS games. I guess I'll just check out that friend-codes.com site ^_^
Author:  Tap [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
Ptapcc wrote:
No! I just noticed the first post and VIII is apart of the hated games list. Why? I personally preferred the junction and magic system to the others. It allowed characters to develop easier. Plus,

Spoiler:
Ultimecia's the only one to ever aim for something other than destroying the world.

More like it made characters completely interchangable. Considering the only realistic way to get through battles is to spam summons since physical attacks are pathetic and using magic weakens you, there's little to no reason to use one character over another outside of graphical preference.

And I personally didn't enjoy having battles last half an hour while you drain magic from the enemies. Nor a plot with no direction for much of the game starring a guy with the personality of pocket lint and one of the biggest Mary Sue heroines ever.


But you don't have to do that. By the time I finished Disc 1, I used magic rarely. I upgraded my weapons a lot and used the GF abilities you could learn. Well, Squall is meant to be cold and emotionless but I agree with the mary sue comment. Rinoa must die. She's too evil.
Author:  Bad Player [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
Okay, I'm up to the final battle in Final Fantasy IV Advance. However, I still need to do some grinding to do it. Is it really worth spending my time grinding for the ending? I haven't found the plot that great and I think the battle system is pretty boring, so if I were to just decide I wouldn't do it, but I'd like to hear other people's opinions on the ending and stuff. (And if it makes any difference, I'm just using the regular Cecil, Rosa, Kain, Rydia, Edge.)
Author:  jonathanrp [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
The ending to FFIV Advance was fun, the only problem I had was that it was so damn long, it was over 10 minutes long, but the Lunar Ruins is pretty much amazing. I got my entire party to level 99 (The cap) and the challenges were fun. Kain's expecially.
Author:  Franzise Deauxnim [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
Ten minutes is nothing. The ending to VI is almost three times that long.
Author:  Tap [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
Ten minutes is nothing. The ending to VI is almost three times that long.


That's true. Fighting Kefka takes forever and if anyone complains, think about his theme tune Dancing Mad. It goes for over 10 minutes...

On other news, just pre-ordered XIII today. Anyone else done the same yet?
Author:  Bad Player [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
jonathanrp wrote:
The ending to FFIV Advance was fun, the only problem I had was that it was so damn long, it was over 10 minutes long, but the Lunar Ruins is pretty much amazing. I got my entire party to level 99 (The cap) and the challenges were fun. Kain's expecially.

...I'm definitely not grinding to complete the game just to grind to complete the Lunar Ruins >_>
(maybe I'll just watch the ending on youtube or something, then...)
Author:  Franzise Deauxnim [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
Ptapcc wrote:
Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
Ten minutes is nothing. The ending to VI is almost three times that long.


That's true. Fighting Kefka takes forever and if anyone complains, think about his theme tune Dancing Mad. It goes for over 10 minutes...

On other news, just pre-ordered XIII today. Anyone else done the same yet?

Oh, I didn't even mean the fight with Kefka, I just meant the actual ending and credits. Ending Theme alone is 21 minutes and change, there's a bit of talking before it starts, and if you count the "The End" in the starry sky with Prelude playing, it's right up there. Worth every second, of course.

Not to say Dancing Mad isn't one of if not THE most epic boss battle themes ever, though; getting to fight Kefka with that playing in the background is more than enough reason to finish the game.

Actually, there's very little music I didn't love in VI. god VI is amazing

I haven't pre-ordered XIII yet because I don't have a system to play it on. I'm sure by the time I do it'll have dropped to $15 or so.
Author:  Bad Player [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
Dancing Mad sounded pretty bleh to me.... (Of course, I listened to about 10 seconds until I got bored >_>)

I was fighting my way to the Fire Crystal when my FFV died, but up until then it had been really exciting, and I did grind a little but I liked it because of the job system. Hopefully I'll like FFVI's battles like FFV's, not like FFIV's =\ Does FFVI require a lot of grinding?
Author:  Franzise Deauxnim [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
I'm not sure I even want to talk to you anymore if you thought Dancing Mad was bleh... :delilah-hair:

But no, it doesn't require much grinding. You might want to a bit at the beginning, but after that you should get most of the experience you need just by not running from most battles and doing the sidequests (pretty much the whole second half of the game is sidequests.)
Author:  Tap [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
And that is sort of what FFX and FFX-2 turns into. I spent a few hours at my friend's house trying to beat Evrae but failed because her characters were so underdeveloped. Take that as a warning: train your characters!

I'm off to play some FFIX now. I don't really care for the story but it has some interesting graphics and great battles.
Author:  dullahan1 [ Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
Geez. 10 seconds gets you nowhere on Dancing Mad. Listen to the whole thing then voice your opinion. Dancing Mad, imo, is one of the highlights of Uematsu's career.
Author:  winged cloud [ Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
Dancing Mad was a fantastic song! Highly worth listening to the entire way through even though its long ( 4 parts)

part 1 is the slowest of the 4, but sets up the tension filled battle, part 2 showing his madness, 3 a bit of inspiration that he can be beaten and part 4 the intense finale of the amazing piece!
Author:  Bad Player [ Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
@Franzise: I'm not sure I even want to talk to you anymore if you're not sure you even want to talk to me anymore if I'm not sure I like Dancing Mad

@Others: I know 10s is nothing, but I didn't want to spoil it for when I got up to it, so just lemme finish the game >_>


Anyway, first 5 minutes have been fun :3 I like how they introduce all the new stuff like double-sided battles and multiple teams at the beginning. And the music has been pretty good so far ;)
Author:  Pierre [ Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Final Fantasy
Bad Player wrote:
@Franzise: I'm not sure I even want to talk to you anymore if you're not sure you even want to talk to me anymore if I'm not sure I like Dancing Mad

@Others: I know 10s is nothing, but I didn't want to spoil it for when I got up to it, so just lemme finish the game >_>


Anyway, first 5 minutes have been fun :3 I like how they introduce all the new stuff like double-sided battles and multiple teams at the beginning. And the music has been pretty good so far ;)


Do you mean X?

Yes X is epic one of my favourites. Maybe a little too easy but great fun. The music is....EPIC. Jecht is one of my all time favourite villains and it's a fun game I'm sure you'll have a great time playing it. :garyuu:
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