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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
I'm suprised nobody's mentioned the improved menu interface yet. Soooo nice having your Pokedex, bag, save button, etc. right there on the touch screen at all times, just a stylus tap away, without having to putz around with the X button. Same goes with the running shoes, just tap them on or off with no more need to hold down B, and being able to shortcut the fishing rod AND bicycle at the same time? Yay~


Yeah, that is very convenient. No more pressing a button with your finger to trigger an action, just tap and go.
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
I'm suprised nobody's mentioned the improved menu interface yet. Soooo nice having your Pokedex, bag, save button, etc. right there on the touch screen at all times, just a stylus tap away, without having to putz around with the X button. Same goes with the running shoes, just tap them on or off with no more need to hold down B, and being able to shortcut the fishing rod AND bicycle at the same time? Yay~

I've noticed the encounter rate seems to be a lot higher in this one than DPP though. I mean, I know you're supposed to run into more wild Pokemon when you run through the grass and caves and such as opposed to walking, but sometimes I'm running into one every two steps...

The Voltorb Flip game in Goldenrod is ridiculously addictive, though. Made it up to Level 6 on that; before I knew it I had plenty of coins for a Dratini. Guess I should grab an Abra, too.

How did I forget about the menu interface? It's the second best new thing in the game, next to the
MUSIC!!!!!
Now I can register the bicycle and the Dowsing MCHN and use them with the touch of a button, toggle the running shoes on and off without holding down a button, use the A button via the touch screen, and never have to press the X button to open the menu (In fact, you never even have to open the menu because it never closes! So convinient)

Oh, and I've found that the encounter rate drops significantly when you walk. Now I always walk through the tall grass and caves and any other place where wild pokémon are.

The Voltorb flip seems to me like a combination of Minesweeper and Picross. Very addictive, though. The inability to lose anything in the game is a nice touch.

Oh, and Yaragorm... I don't suppose you get your mail from a Delibird, keep a Houndoom as a pet, send your mail via carrier Farfetch'ds, and fly via Fearow as opposed to an iFly airplane?
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Just remember... The pokemon aren't real. Your pet goldfish will not magically turn into a goldeen. Go outside. Get some fresh air.


But that's what the Pokewalker is for! Since getting these games, I've actually been going out a lot more and making excuses to walk and run. :will:
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
I'm suprised nobody's mentioned the improved menu interface yet. Soooo nice having your Pokedex, bag, save button, etc. right there on the touch screen at all times, just a stylus tap away, without having to putz around with the X button. Same goes with the running shoes, just tap them on or off with no more need to hold down B, and being able to shortcut the fishing rod AND bicycle at the same time? Yay~

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The Voltorb Flip game in Goldenrod is ridiculously addictive, though. Made it up to Level 6 on that; before I knew it I had plenty of coins for a Dratini. Guess I should grab an Abra, too.

I'm bad at it. XD Must be because I suck at Minesweeper.
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Aaaaarrrrrggggg!!!! I'm so unlucky!!! I wanted a Meowth, but I took Heartgold... I didn't know that Meowth was only in Soulsilver... I guess I'll have to find someone with the Soulsilver version to have the chance to have a Meowth...
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Yaragorm wrote:
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Just remember... The pokemon aren't real. Your pet goldfish will not magically turn into a goldeen. Go outside. Get some fresh air.


But that's what the Pokewalker is for! Since getting these games, I've actually been going out a lot more and making excuses to walk and run. :will:


......I think someone has a problem. There's having fun.... then there's obsession. You... you fall into the obsession catagory. :payne:
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I picked up both games on launch day, and am currently getting through Kanto in HeartGold. The Elite 4 were rather easy, though they weren't that hard in the original games, either. The updates to the original games are great, the visuals are quite nice and the music is good too. I just wish they didn't make you get through the entire game before you can get the GB Player.


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Aaaaarrrrrggggg!!!! I'm so unlucky!!! I wanted a Meowth, but I took Heartgold... I didn't know that Meowth was only in Soulsilver... I guess I'll have to find someone with the Soulsilver version to have the chance to have a Meowth...

Once you see one in the game (I'm fairly certain there's a few at the normal-type gym, but I don't quite remember at the moment), just ask for one on the GTS in Goldenrod. Offer up a HeartGold exclusive, or at least an uncommon Pokemon and you should get one in no time.
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You know what's bullshit about this game? No Vs. Seeker. Now you have to rely on the in-game characters to call you for a rematch. For all the little niceties and improvements this game makes, this seems like such a huge stumble backwards. :zenitora:
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Mr. Bear Jew wrote:
You know what's bullshit about this game? No Vs. Seeker. Now you have to rely on the in-game characters to call you for a rematch. For all the little niceties and improvements this game makes, this seems like such a huge stumble backwards. :zenitora:


Don't you get one early in the game? Maybe you didn't talk to the right person...
Then again maybe it was the Vs Recorder. Trading it in from a different game, I guess it does nothing?
I suppose you're supposed to walk with your PKMN instead and get exercise....
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You know what's bullshit about this game? No Vs. Seeker. Now you have to rely on the in-game characters to call you for a rematch. For all the little niceties and improvements this game makes, this seems like such a huge stumble backwards. :zenitora:


Don't you get one early in the game? Maybe you didn't talk to the right person...
Then again maybe it was the Vs Recorder. Trading it in from a different game, I guess it does nothing?
I suppose you're supposed to walk with your PKMN instead and get exercise....


Well, if Serebii.net is to be believed, the Vs. Seeker mechanic has been replaced by the aforementioned phone call rematches. It's seems so archaic compared to high-production value that went into this game and it's bugging me a lot.
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Interestingly enough, the "wild pokémon battle", "trainer battle", and "gym leader battle" themes are different when you're in Kanto... AND THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY FRICKIN' EPIC.
Kanto wild battle
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The Johto Gym Leader theme is the best! Then comes the Kanto Trainer, Champion theme, Rival theme, and the Bicycle theme! That Bicycle music is the best ever!!!

Incidentally, if you think the themes on Youtube just aren't long enough for your listening pleasure, I recommend these two users. They've uploaded a great majority of the epic themes in this game and they've been extended to 10-11 minutes long! They also have other extended stuff from other video games too.
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Man the rival's battle music sounds like it could be remixed into rave party music or something.

I like the Rival's old design better. :C He looked more evil and not so much like a brat like the new design does.
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Mr. Bear Jew wrote:
Well, if Serebii.net is to be believed, the Vs. Seeker mechanic has been replaced by the aforementioned phone call rematches. It's seems so archaic compared to high-production value that went into this game and it's bugging me a lot.


Hmm, I'm not far enough through the game to be annoyed, but this does seem a step back. I remember FRLG's 'nostalgic' features also made breeding on that game insufferable compared to RSE...

But they didn't wind back the IV/EV system to GS era, which is the worst failing of the ancient games.

So far as I'm concerned, the positives of this game way outweigh the lack of Vs Seeker though. Particularly the WALKING function. I'm happy, this is WAY better than their Amnity Square tech demo of it in DP. The Pokemon do such a vast range of things, and location-specific ones too. In the negative, now I can't bear to just walk around leaving them statused. I'm glad they had the sense for all Pokemon to follow you, just waiting to try Wailord. Walking with my Skarmory? My life is... complete. (Not quite)

I'm annoyed they had to edit out the Casino in the English version though, even though I was never into the slot machines. I guess it's a wonder nobody complained previously, considering all the insanity over 'pocket demons' and the 'racist' Jynx...

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I really want to like Pokémon but I just don't get what's so fun about it. So please, someone motivate me to buy HG or SS. I realize that this is a "more of the same with every game" (... I didn't intend to rhyme there) franchise but does it have enough new elements to make it worth the money if you already have LeafGreen, Ruby and Diamond?

If you still 'don't like Pokemon' after playing all them maybe it's not the game for you. People have different tastes etc.

But you played the bad game in all the gens. Emerald and Platinum were way superior to DP and RS. Well okay I won't say a word against Sapphire since I get the nostalgia kick out of it, but I appreciate Emerald is actually better. Then again I'm the type of freak who has to complete the entire battle frontier, and that's a big factor in those games' superiority - but there's huge tech, graphic, plot, breeding and battle-metagames improvement in the third game of each. [What it should have been to start with]

I'm thinking this is a better game than Platinum, but of course I can't judge properly so early on. It's better than FRLG because it's made after, not before, the 'third game'.
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One thing I hate about this game is how it borrows Crystal's Catch Rates.

Legendaries like Ho-oh and Lugia are actually pretty easy to catch while a level 6 metapod can't even be caught with an Ultra Ball on the first 3 tries. :edgeworth:

In fact, not even Quick Balls work very well. It seems that Dusk Balls at Night or in Caves are the only way to go if you want to catch Pokemon.
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I want this game soooo badly i don't have enough moneyyyyy (besides i dont think its out in UK yet)
I will be getting my £10 pocket money next month, so woo i'll get it then.
also, I can't decide between gold and silver, mainly because arcanine and ninetails are split up! gah
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...Did the Kanto gym leader music change that considerably between RBY and GSC? It sounds nothing like the gym leader music in RBY. :yuusaku:
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Mr. Bear Jew wrote:
Well, if Serebii.net is to be believed, the Vs. Seeker mechanic has been replaced by the aforementioned phone call rematches. It's seems so archaic compared to high-production value that went into this game and it's bugging me a lot.

Key word is remake, Mr. Bear Jew.
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
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...Did the Kanto gym leader music change that considerably between RBY and GSC? It sounds nothing like the gym leader music in RBY. :yuusaku:

From Red/Green/Blue/Yellow
From Gold/Silver/Crystal
From FireRed/LeafGreen
From HeartGold/SoulSilver
Doesn't sound that different to me... In fact, it sounds very similar (although some parts are clearly different).
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In Firered/LeafGreen, the tune remains mostly the same as the original Red/Blue's Gym Leader theme, except they added this little part that makes it sound EPIC!

Gold/Silver kinda mashed the original theme by making one portion of it longer, adding an intro, and some other stuff.

In HeartGold/SoulSilver, they mashed it up even more with pianos, rock music, and lots of other effects. In fact, It's almost impossible to even get the theme from it until listening for a few hours. But once you do, it remains faithful to Gold/Silver's except they added that same new little part from FireRed/LeafGreen.

I actually hate the Wild Kanto theme, they ruined my favorite part of the original song...

I love Celadon, Fuschia, and Lavender Towns themes though.
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Yaragorm wrote:
Legendaries like Ho-oh and Lugia are actually pretty easy to catch while a level 6 metapod can't even be caught with an Ultra Ball on the first 3 tries. :edgeworth:

Did that (not being able to catch a level 6 metapod with an Ultra Ball) really happen? Because if it did, then the capture rates are really screwed up...
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until listening for a few hours.


..................Hours? Yaragorm.... I think this falls under the "No life" category. :yuusaku: Maybe you should put the game down..... and take a break. :payne:
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We already had this discussion sadly. Yaragorm's a loser. He's gonna live, breathe, eat, and sex up Pokemon until the day he dies. I'd feel sorry for him, but after learning how he is after like the first thirty seconds, I got over it.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)


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OMG best item ever.
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When you get all 8 Kanto badges, go to Celadon city (the place where the Dept. Store is in Kanto) and go into the building called "Celadon Condominiums" (it's to the right of the Dept. Store). Then, enter the elevator on the first floor and go to the 3rd floor. You will arrive at the developers' room. Talk to the guy standing in front of the globe to get an item called "GB sounds" that turns the music into the original music from Gold/Silver/Crystal!!!!!!!!!111

Oh, and Yaragorm, I don't suppose you've beaten Red yet...?
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@Dullahan: Thank you Captain Obvious.

Anyone else wanna take a jab at Yaragorm now? :nick:
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Hey, if Pichu evolve by Happiness, does giving away special Pichu encourage abusing them?


Also, I just noticed that the HG and SS symbols look like Ho-oh and Lugia...



(Oh, and Shiny Ho-oh should've been silver and shiny Lugia should've been gold. That would've been much more awesome.)
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It might encourage more Pikachus in teams.

What I think, is that people will get the Pikachu-coloured-Pichu to get the event Spiky Eared Pichu, then ditch the PCP and play with their new one. The problem is, Spiky Eared Pichu doesn't evolve, and can't be traded either. That, along with its poor stats really discourages serious use in teams. There's also the fact that because the shiny PCPichu is downloadable via mystery gift, it will lose its shiny value, and each and every downloaded shiny Pichu has exactly the same nature, stats and moveset, and they're not the best for competitive battling either.

It will make Pichu more popular and will probably encourage Pikachu and Raichu to be on others' teams, but I doubt they would use these two Pichus in particular.
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@Dullahan: Thank you Captain Obvious.

Anyone else wanna take a jab at Yaragorm now? :nick:

Depends on how well thought out your next post is.
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@Dullahan: Thank you Captain Obvious.

Anyone else wanna take a jab at Yaragorm now? :nick:

Depends on how well thought out your next post is.


If you don't think you like the way I post, just ignore it like everyone else seems to be capable of doing.

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Legendaries like Ho-oh and Lugia are actually pretty easy to catch while a level 6 metapod can't even be caught with an Ultra Ball on the first 3 tries. :edgeworth:

Did that (not being able to catch a level 6 metapod with an Ultra Ball) really happen? Because if it did, then the capture rates are really screwed up...


It happended in Viridian Forest. The capture rates are indeed very screwed up. Even a level 18 Magikarp needs like 3 tries to catch...

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until listening for a few hours.


..................Hours? Yaragorm.... I think this falls under the "No life" category. :yuusaku: Maybe you should put the game down..... and take a break. :payne:


I've been listening to the music from these games ever since they've been out in Japan last September. When I meant hours, I kinda phrased it wrong and was actually referring to the total amount of time spent listening to them on my computer or music player. Besides, who could blame me? The music is great!

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Oh, and Yaragorm, I don't suppose you've beaten Red yet...?


Beat him four days after I got the game.

I still have a whole bunch of stuff to do though, like make a good team for comeptitive battling and such.
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Beat him four days after I got the game.


No comment.

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(Oh, and Shiny Ho-oh should've been silver and shiny Lugia should've been gold. That would've been much more awesome.)


That would be awesome. Though, I don't really like gold (I know. I'm like the only girl who doesn't like gold)... so, the white and red colour of the shiny one.... I think that it's pretty kickass. :garyuu:
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So I've been going at this game sort of slowly. I'm in Olivine Lighthouse.

GO TO THE OUTSIDE PART HALFWAY UP AT SUNSET IT'S GORGEOUS

Anyway, I'm soooooo disappointed that the Kimono Girl battles were replaced by a stupid Rocket Grunt to get Surf. >:C Do you get to fight them later?
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So I've been going at this game sort of slowly. I'm in Olivine Lighthouse.

GO TO THE OUTSIDE PART HALFWAY UP AT SUNSET IT'S GORGEOUS

Anyway, I'm soooooo disappointed that the Kimono Girl battles were replaced by a stupid Rocket Grunt to get Surf. >:C Do you get to fight them later?
Yes, just before you go to fight Lugia/Ho-Oh.
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Fricken stupid dogs and their fricken roar won't never get caught in the fricken ball even though their fricken HP is low enough and I caught fricken Lugia in one shot so what the frick is their problem huh it's like they don't fricken want to live out the rest of their fricken meaningless lives in my PC.

Fricken.
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Fricken stupid dogs and their fricken roar won't never get caught in the fricken ball even though their fricken HP is low enough and I caught fricken Lugia in one shot so what the frick is their problem huh it's like they don't fricken want to live out the rest of their fricken meaningless lives in my PC.

Fricken.

That fricken sucks, I hate those fricken beasts (NOT DOGS) and their fricken roar.
(On a side note, I've caught LUGIA, ARTICUNO, SUICINE, and HO-OH. :will: )

I don't suppose Yaragorm has already fricken caught all the fricken legendary pokémon that you can fricken catch in the fricken game.
Say, that reminds me of a puzzle! Have you ever heard this one, Luke?
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Yes I have, I've caught every available legendary in HeartGold. I'm waiting for my sister to get Groudon in her SoulSilver so she can give it to me and I can get Rayquaza. Then all I have left is to wait for the Mew, Latios, and Celebi events. Then I'll have every legendary in existance, all 30 something of them.

I used Master Balls for most of them though.
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Hell yeah suck it, jerkbags. The stupid dogs are mine.
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GOD DAMMIT

I got Soul Silver and started with a Chikorita. Beat the first gym leader. But the second gym leader is some bug-type Pokémon freak. I'll never beat him.
Fuck xD
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OH MY GOD IT'S OUT TOMORROW

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...Yeah, so you guys got it two weeks earlier. Well WHATEVER.
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Consider this puzzle solved.

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Yaragorm wrote:
I used Master Balls for most of them though.

Ah, then in that case you either:
-CHEATED,
-cloned your pokeymans, or
-somehow managed to bring them over from Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald/FireRed/LeafGreen/Diamond/Pearl/Platinum.
For some reason, I get the feeling it's not the 3rd one.

I used Dusk balls to catch every legendary I've caught in SoulSilver. It's more work, but it feels much more fulfilling when you finally catch the damned thing.
(And on another side note, I caught ZAPDOS! Hell yes!)
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GOD DAMMIT

I got Soul Silver and started with a Chikorita. Beat the first gym leader. But the second gym leader is some bug-type Pokémon freak. I'll never beat him.
Fuck xD
He's not that hard, he's only the second leader. CHIKORITA was my starter and I beat him easily. Although, I might have used an ONYX for that (unless I'm mistaken, there's a guy in the first or second town with a gym that will trade you his ONYX for a BELLSPROUT).
Say, that reminds me of a puzzle! Have you ever heard this one, Luke?
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