You know what my problem with IV was when I played it on the Super Nintendo? I got bored after 5 minutes. Seriously. I gave up playing it after 5 minutes. (Yes, at that time I was about... 10 years old or so?)

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You know what my problem with IV was when I played it on the Super Nintendo? I got bored after 5 minutes. Seriously. I gave up playing it after 5 minutes. (Yes, at that time I was about... 10 years old or so?)

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The only thing I don't condone is playing a game for barely an hour and then saying it's shit. I felt like saying the battle system for Graces was shit during the childhood arc because it was literally mashing X over and over with directions as an option to kill things. But I told myself it would improve, that it definitely wouldn't remain so simple later on - after the childhood arc, the battle system became more intricate.
Same with XIII, by the way.

That's exactly what you did with FFIV.

Why can't I use more gravity based powers in FFXIII?

How the hell did Yukari use Garu in a cutscene when all she knew was Dia?

Also, it's really fun if you get suck in an area behind an NPC and it takes them 5 minutes to finally move out of the way

This overall problem is called Gameplay and Story Segregation.

Lightning was the only one who had such a gravity device in the beginning and it broke. Remember?

Or bad translations in order to fit with Western Audience >.>

Hey this forums about a game like that! what a coincidence!!!

You can always keep pressing X over and over again.

And if it broke, then how is she not taking fall damage?

Just saying, during battles, she does take damage if she gets thrown up and then falls.

Is the whole hype over Pokemon. I mean yeah the old games were amazing and fun back in the day but every game now is pretty much having you do the same exact thing over and over with just new Pokemon. Last game I played was Pokemon X and after I beat it I got bored with it just like with the other ones. I started getting bored of pokemon after Soul Silver and Heart Gold which I loved since it was a remake of one my old favorite pokemon games.

I have this exact same problem, from Generation I onwards. I dunno, every Pokémon game is just Catch them and Fight in Gyms. Yeah the later ones add stuff like managing a mall passage or acting in movies with scripted battles that you have to redo because for some random reason, the Pokémon either missed or didn't do enough damage as the script demanded, but overall it's still the same stuff. It's like having a nicely colored wall, but you're so worried about any potential person noticing the old color underneath that, every year, you add another layer of the fresh color on it to make sure the old color is nowhere near visible.

I get bored with Pokémon games by the time I reach the third or fourth City/Gym. I can't be bothered to catch all the Pokémon, nor to level them up or anything like that. Most of the time, I pick my first six pokémon and just keep those and level them.

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That true, I mean yeah you had small features to the game but its still just the same old pokemon game you play every single time. I never understood how much my friend can love pokemon so much that he gets hyped for every new pokemon game and plays it everyday.

I get bored with pokemon every time I finish beating the Elite Four. I would either just stop playing the game completely or I would sell it if either I need money or I want a different game. I mean yeah I can see its fun to play online with other people but it does get boring after a while which is why I never understand how people can play it everyday.

Well you have to be a die-hard player if you can devote yourself to play every single day. Although pokemon does have enough content to keep playing (like breeding for perfect stats, shiny hunting, battling competitive etc.). But if you leave the game alone after beating the elite four then isn't that just fine? You've still played through the entire story and you should have experienced hours of fun.

What really bothers me when I'm playing online is when you have such a laggy connection to your opponent that even doing basic combo's becomes impossible. Not everyone has great or high-speed internet, but at least make sure your connection is stable before you go haunting people online.

C'mon, we need a Pokemon game where you can join the crime syndicate or whatever evil organization is trying to take over the land. SoulSilver teasing me by letting me dress up as a Rocket, let me go steal some Lass's Jigglypuff and make her cry. I want to be hardcore!

C'mon, we need a Pokemon game where you can join the crime syndicate or whatever evil organization is trying to take over the land. SoulSilver teasing me by letting me dress up as a Rocket, let me go steal some Lass's Jigglypuff and make her cry. I want to be hardcore!

Nah we need a early pokemon game before pokeballs were invented and you just had to tame the pokemon the ol' fashioned way.

That or give me a serious gritty pokemon game that's almost an action as well, like set it during the war for Kalos or border skirmishes between Johto and Kanto.

[clears throat]

A fangame's probably the best we're going to get in that department. I can picture something along the lines of an Advance Wars/Pokémon crossover. Grid-style battlefield, turn-based gameplay, Pokémon act as units and use moves as ordered against opposing Pokémon... I don't know about making it gritty, but I can definitely see the potential in a Pokémon game aiming for that kind of combat system.

Also what grind my gears is when people give more importance to the story and art in a game rather than it's mechanics because that's just dumb.

Well...urm. You're saying this on a a site dedicated to a series where the story/characters are probably the best thing about it. Yes?

I understand where you're coming from though Shao. It's not always about the graphics or the story, but how the game plays, but I think with the wide spectrum of games we have to choose from nowadays, it's harder to place such a broad view of opinions on games when there's a vast amount of different types of genres out there, all focusing on different aspects of what makes up a game. But yeah, for games like Wind Waker, I hate it when people won't give it a shot because they won't look past the art and see the fun game play behind it.

But yeah, for games like Wind Waker, I hate it when people won't give it a shot because they won't look past the art and see the fun game play behind it.

I'm not a Zelda man by any stretch of the imagination, but Wind Waker is Goddamn beautiful. Not played the game, only seen the artstyle, but it's a very gorgeous looking game, in my opinion. Not in the way most would say (as in omg look at how detailed everything is I can see the tiniest pebble on the street hnnnnggghhh), but it's just appealing visually to me. I dunno. Maybe I should actually play it, now that it's making me gush

And despite how snarky my comment sounded, I do agree with you, Shao. Graphics whores are one of the worst things about modern gaming. They act as if it's an actual selling point. I mean, yeah. It's nice if it looks good, but if it plays like garbage and has bugs up the ass, then damn. Guess you wasted your money, huh guy?

I mean, for games where the story doesn't play as much importance, sure. But visual novels/adventure games such as this, surely you can understand?

Eh, I guess. My problem with Wind Waker was the amount of sailing necessary. I mean, I don't mind exploration in a videogame, I don't even mind if a certain amount is mandatory to proceed in the game. But with Wind Waker, the constant sailing was annoying, and the forced exploration that was a large amount, even with the teleportation song, was terrible because it was a very, very boring environment to look at as you were exploring. And often times, the amount of time it took to get from one island to another was frustrating. Can't say that WW HD fixed much of that, even with the Fast Sail added.

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You don't have a Wii U....so you can't say "WW HD's Fast Sail didn't do Jack!" legitimately.

I've watched Let's Plays and Collection Series of WW HD and I checked the times, it still didn't help all that much. Yeah, you don't have to change the wind direction. Still doesn't change that the environment is the same all over the area and it gets really, really boring to look at.

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Having played Wind Waker HD and playing Skyward Sword, I think the Loftwing section goes by slower than the sailing in Wind Waker with the fast sail.

In real life, the sea has various shades of blue and green and teal in it, you can see rocks underneath and all, it's very pretty to look at. In Wind Waker... it's blue. With white shading. That's it. It's... not very entertaining or interesting to look at after a while.



Flying across one end of the Sky in Skyward to the other end? ~3 minutes
Sailing across one end of the ocean in a straight line in WW to the next, with the Fast Sail? ~7 - 9 minutes

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In real life, the sea has various shades of blue and green and teal in it, you can see rocks underneath and all, it's very pretty to look at. In Wind Waker... it's blue. With white shading. That's it. It's... not very entertaining or interesting to look at after a while.



Flying across one end of the Sky in Skyward to the other end? ~3 minutes
Sailing across one end of the ocean in a straight line in WW to the next, with the Fast Sail? ~7 - 9 minutes

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