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Either way I'd still read it.
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HAHAHHAHAHHAHA ohhhh man a fanfic of this stuff. I'll have a laughing field-day on that site.
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Gyakuten Phoenix wrote:
:eh?: How do you have BIBLE FANFICTION??? You can't just ADD stories to the Bible!! It's the Bible for crying out loud!!! Also, Jesus x ANYONE has got to be the biggest sin that someone could think of. HE'S JESUS!!! HE DOESN'T "X'" ANYONE! EVER!!! Now you're all just gonna say you're "joking" right? Well it still counts as a sin and you must repent before it's too late. Good day.
P.S. I'd read this manga. Actually, I'd like there to be MORE manga about historical events.
P.S. I'd read this manga. Actually, I'd like there to be MORE manga about historical events.
It's only a sin if you believe in that religion, you know.
Also, fanfiction isn't adding stories to the Bible. It's not like they go "oh horse shit, now we have to reprint it with more Judas x Jesus stories."
And why is it a sin to think that a young Jewish man would have had sex? The man was obviously married. Maybe not gay, (sorry fangirls! I know he's quite the bishie. :< ) but to believe Jesus was 1) a whitey and 2) not married would mean he'd basically be a Harlem Globetrotter hanging out with a bunch of Mongolians--out of place and weird.
As for the historical manga, there are plenty. They're just not popular in the states.
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Gyakuten Phoenix wrote:
Kenjimurasame wrote:
It's only a sin if you believe in that religion, you know.
Also, fanfiction isn't adding stories to the Bible. It's not like they go "oh horse shit, now we have to reprint it with more Judas x Jesus stories."
And why is it a sin to think that a young Jewish man would have had sex? The man was obviously married. Maybe not gay, (sorry fangirls! I know he's quite the bishie. :< ) but to believe Jesus was 1) a whitey and 2) not married would mean he'd basically be a Harlem Globetrotter hanging out with a bunch of Mongolians--out of place and weird.
As for the historical manga, there are plenty. They're just not popular in the states.
Also, fanfiction isn't adding stories to the Bible. It's not like they go "oh horse shit, now we have to reprint it with more Judas x Jesus stories."
And why is it a sin to think that a young Jewish man would have had sex? The man was obviously married. Maybe not gay, (sorry fangirls! I know he's quite the bishie. :< ) but to believe Jesus was 1) a whitey and 2) not married would mean he'd basically be a Harlem Globetrotter hanging out with a bunch of Mongolians--out of place and weird.
As for the historical manga, there are plenty. They're just not popular in the states.
I didn't really mean anything about reprinting the Bible. I just meant something along the lines of "Making a Bible fanfic would be basically like making a fanfic about the Holocaust." Now, I don't mean this in a way that says the Bible is like the Holocaust, I'm just giving an example of how making fanfics of historical events just seems really strange to me.
Also, I don't believe he's white. I don't remember ever saying he was white. He was born in the Middle-east. White people are from Europe. I also don't remember ever saying anything about marriage either. But he wasn't married. That's just a rumour created by Dan Brown to publish a story he made 'cause he was bored. Well, the term "married to his work" might be true.
Lastly, I'm not from the States, but Canada. Although, most publishing companies ARE American, so I guess you have a point.
"The West," Then, does that fit you better? And since most english translation manga companies are stationed in the United States, there's no real reason to bother with semantics here, unless you want to be annoying about it? They're not popular outside of Japan would work well too, if you want to be a stickler about "What does the West" imply.
And I don't really see a connection between a historical atrocity and a religious piece of literature, but I will give you points for having the strangest use of 'The Holocaust' as an attempt at point making I've seen.
As for whether Jesus would have been married, it's not a rumor created by a singular, modern, bored author of fanciful fiction--it's a theory that has been around for ages. Since the "Biblical History" of his life is really one of the only sources--others either being ignored because they contradict his "holiness" or just because they can't provide enough evidence--it becomes a matter of finding out how the authors of each gospel twisted words, manipulated language, and implied the original meaning of the untranslated texts. Since the books make no reference either way, as in, "married," or "unmarried," the debate tends to come to a grounding halt (well, sort of). The cultural relativity of the time, that is, Jesus as a historical, real person, would lead to the conclusion that he lead a normal Jewish life--which would include marriage.
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I'm just giving an example of how making fanfics of historical events just seems really strange to me.
check it ouuuuuuut
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I mean, American comics routinely take mythological / religious figures and turn them into superheroes or villains--and of course you have the extremely parodic Battle Pope, etc. So "fanfiction" extended beyond "Jesus butt sex" is pretty common.
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On American comics, though, religious undertones aren't that hard to make. Cloth your villian in red and, bing! He's a satanic figure >_>
But Battle Pope is love XD
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And by 'satanic', I ment literally representing Lucifer.
What I was trying to say (I know it wasn't anywhere near articulate) is that in any kind of media, you can put biblical references and not many people will notice them, either because their obscure or they're some sort of action (take, in Death note, L washing Raito's feet), and not too many people will notice it, but if you're trying to establish a Christ figure and a Satan figure, it's not too hard.
I gues it doesn't make much sense, actually...
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Oh, okay. I wasn't too sure what you ment before >_>
And by 'satanic', I ment literally representing Lucifer.
And by 'satanic', I ment literally representing Lucifer.
If you're looking for Lucifer then there is, um, LUCIFER :) Cracking comic spun out of SANDMAN. The Vertigo U generally is full of angels and demons and some of them even have sex. As far as I know none of the creators have yet been struck by lightning
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Indeed. Maybe I should have said "religious historical events"?
check it ouuuuuut
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Konran wrote:
Oh, okay. I wasn't too sure what you ment before >_>
And by 'satanic', I ment literally representing Lucifer.
What I was trying to say (I know it wasn't anywhere near articulate) is that in any kind of media, you can put biblical references and not many people will notice them, either because their obscure or they're some sort of action (take, in Death note, L washing Raito's feet), and not too many people will notice it, but if you're trying to establish a Christ figure and a Satan figure, it's not too hard.
I gues it doesn't make much sense, actually...
And by 'satanic', I ment literally representing Lucifer.
What I was trying to say (I know it wasn't anywhere near articulate) is that in any kind of media, you can put biblical references and not many people will notice them, either because their obscure or they're some sort of action (take, in Death note, L washing Raito's feet), and not too many people will notice it, but if you're trying to establish a Christ figure and a Satan figure, it's not too hard.
I gues it doesn't make much sense, actually...
I see what you're saying, but to an extent that's almost dangerously close to "looking to hard." Not that those things are not there, but sometimes people try too hard to see what isn't there--especially so in media outside of the onlooker's cultural points of reference. (I'm not arguing you on the Death Note thing, since there are some obvious scenes of the manga making Light into a twisted Messianic figure.)
However, you'd want to be careful with trying to identify a Christ figure--being a hero and being a messiah are different. Most heroes, say, Superman, aren't Christ figures, they're more Herculean / Mythical. Messianic figures are usually martyrs for a greater cause.
As for Satanic, that gets sticky as well, since most people don't even realize that Lucifer, Satan, and assorted other names are all different beings. Satan is the accuser / tester of faith ("Devil's Advocate," if you will) while Lucifer is the fallen angel who defied God and was cast out after a failed rebellion.
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I was thinking about a Bible manga, at this thing I went to during the summer.
I was thinking
"Damn, they're going to have to rent out an entire library to store it all, if they plan to do the whole thing."
It was after a talk about LAzurus.
I've never liked the idea of Zombie Lazarus.
OK, I'm done talking.
Maybe.
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Harry Miste wrote:
Whoa man. They really hate rock music.
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Baki-Kun wrote:
What the shist?
Spoiler: One of the Fanfictions on There
That is the most offensive thing I've ever seen...
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GamerErman2001 wrote:
That is the most offensive thing I've ever seen...
Really? You must not get out much
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... There already is at least 1 anime done on the bible. It was from the 80s or very early 90s from what I could tell, it used to come on that christian cable channel, whatever that is (always forget the name) TBN or something like that. Do not remember the title, but it was on at like 5 AM then another episode at 5:30... Something to do with these kids that traveled back into bible times with some funky time machine thing.
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I think I'm gonna have to give it a shot. Fan service! 
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Arei wrote:
Tezuka is doing this?!
... There already is at least 1 anime done on the bible. It was from the 80s or very early 90s from what I could tell, it used to come on that christian cable channel, whatever that is (always forget the name) TBN or something like that. Do not remember the title, but it was on at like 5 AM then another episode at 5:30... Something to do with these kids that traveled back into bible times with some funky time machine thing.
... There already is at least 1 anime done on the bible. It was from the 80s or very early 90s from what I could tell, it used to come on that christian cable channel, whatever that is (always forget the name) TBN or something like that. Do not remember the title, but it was on at like 5 AM then another episode at 5:30... Something to do with these kids that traveled back into bible times with some funky time machine thing.
I don't think that was an anime. It sure seemed like an American cartoon, anyway.
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Arei wrote:
Tezuka is doing this?!
... There already is at least 1 anime done on the bible. It was from the 80s or very early 90s from what I could tell, it used to come on that christian cable channel, whatever that is (always forget the name) TBN or something like that. Do not remember the title, but it was on at like 5 AM then another episode at 5:30... Something to do with these kids that traveled back into bible times with some funky time machine thing.
... There already is at least 1 anime done on the bible. It was from the 80s or very early 90s from what I could tell, it used to come on that christian cable channel, whatever that is (always forget the name) TBN or something like that. Do not remember the title, but it was on at like 5 AM then another episode at 5:30... Something to do with these kids that traveled back into bible times with some funky time machine thing.
...
Tezuka has been dead for nearly 20 years. And he worked on ANOTHER Bible related series; this one is entirely new. They were just stating that it's not the first time Christianity and manga/anime have been smooshed together.
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So this is the rule, eh? The moment something makes it into a manga, it instantly has to have homosexual dojinshi and fan-fiction? No matter what it is? Apparently it must be so looking through some of the comments on this thread... rofl...
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Really? You must not get out much
Well, if there are things you don't want to see... and you apply this new revelation of mine, why would you?
That aside... it's not like something like this hasn't been done before... or at least similiar. Why, a fellow film maker friend of mine is also a producer of a manga about paladin angels who serve the most high God.
God as a huge Gundam, rofl... I would like to thank the original author of this thread for not only providing this news, but also gathering amusing comments from other people to read.
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Sorry, thats the first thing I read when I clicked on this topic.... I'll read it and edit this later
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Mace_Solo wrote:
Quite hysterical.
So this is the rule, eh? The moment something makes it into a manga, it instantly has to have homosexual dojinshi and fan-fiction? No matter what it is? Apparently it must be so looking through some of the comments on this thread... rofl...
So this is the rule, eh? The moment something makes it into a manga, it instantly has to have homosexual dojinshi and fan-fiction? No matter what it is? Apparently it must be so looking through some of the comments on this thread... rofl...
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HAHAHAHAHAH BIBLE FANFICTION
Sorry, thats the first thing I read when I clicked on this topic.... I'll read it and edit this later
Sorry, thats the first thing I read when I clicked on this topic.... I'll read it and edit this later
Uh, Bible Fanfiction and homosexual "doujinshi" has existed way before this manga was even conceptualized. If I remember, Judas / Jesus slash was quite popular for a while.
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Literally.
Well, I guess that's one way to get people in Japan to get to know Christianity instead of thinking the crucifx is some sort of magical talisman...
This needs to be on Fark. Like, right now.
No, I seriously don't have anything else to put here besides a link that gets me rewards when people click on it.
If you like video game music, it might actually be worth your while.
If you like video game music, it might actually be worth your while.
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axl99 wrote:
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Well then again... We already got a manga strictly on Buddhism..
Well then again... We already got a manga strictly on Buddhism..
And that manga kicked ass.
Really. It did. It was great. Read it at my library. I would buy the whole collection if each volume wasn't $20 and there's 8 of them...
Still. It made me consider becoming Buddhist more than I used to. And it was hilarious. "He is really WEREWOLF!! ...just kidding :D" is the best thing said about Buddha EVAR.
Anyways, as for the Bible manga I'm pretty meh about it. It was only a matter of time before it happened. But it won't ever outdo Budd-*SHOT*
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K2J wrote:
JESUS CHRIST!
Literally.
Well, I guess that's one way to get people in Japan to get to know Christianity instead of thinking the crucifx is some sort of magical talisman...
This needs to be on Fark. Like, right now.
Literally.
Well, I guess that's one way to get people in Japan to get to know Christianity instead of thinking the crucifx is some sort of magical talisman...
This needs to be on Fark. Like, right now.
Japanese have known what Christianity "is" since the Jesuits tried to scare them into converting back in like, the 16th century?
Didn't work that well--although depending on how you like your irony, the shogun ordered all the Jesuits killed by crucifixion, which is pretty hilarious. It did, however, cause Japan's seclusion from the world due to a Christian uprising:
"During the early part of the 17th century, the shogunate suspected that the traders and missionaries were actually forerunners of a military conquest by European powers. Christianity spread in Japan, especially among peasants. The shogunate suspected the loyalty of Christian peasants towards their daimyos and were severely persecuted. This led to a revolt by persecuted peasants and Christians in 1637 known as The Shimabara Uprising which saw 30,000 Christians samurais and peasants facing a massive samurai army of more than 100,000 sent from Edo. The rebellion was crushed at a high cost to the shogun's army. After the eradication of the rebels at Shimabara, the shogunate place foreigners under progressively tighter restrictions. It monopolized foreign policy, and expelled traders, missionaries, and foreigners, with the exception of the Dutch and the Chinese."
So, I'm pretty sure the Japanese know what Christianity is. However, they don't seem to have appreciated "the good word" since, you know, they don't fold their religious ideology like a card table and weren't particularly scared of the Jesuits or the Spanish that supported them.
(The funny anecdote here is that the Jesuits work was originally undone by a Spanish sailor, who, upon crashing in Japan with his crew, tried to scare the samurai summoned to the scene by pointing to a map, saying "this is all we control." The Samurai then asked how they did that, and the sailor, being a smug ass, said "we first send our priests, the Jesuits, to do the spiritual conversion for us." The samurai thanked him, then cut his head off, took his map, and reported this to the shogun. Hilarity ensued.)
(Don't you people ever open a goddamn history book before opening your mouths?)
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Kenjimurasame wrote:
K2J wrote:
JESUS CHRIST!
Literally.
Well, I guess that's one way to get people in Japan to get to know Christianity instead of thinking the crucifx is some sort of magical talisman...
This needs to be on Fark. Like, right now.
Literally.
Well, I guess that's one way to get people in Japan to get to know Christianity instead of thinking the crucifx is some sort of magical talisman...
This needs to be on Fark. Like, right now.
Japanese have known what Christianity "is" since the Jesuits tried to scare them into converting back in like, the 16th century?
Didn't work that well--although depending on how you like your irony, the shogun ordered all the Jesuits killed by crucifixion, which is pretty hilarious. It did, however, cause Japan's seclusion from the world due to a Christian uprising:
"During the early part of the 17th century, the shogunate suspected that the traders and missionaries were actually forerunners of a military conquest by European powers. Christianity spread in Japan, especially among peasants. The shogunate suspected the loyalty of Christian peasants towards their daimyos and were severely persecuted. This led to a revolt by persecuted peasants and Christians in 1637 known as The Shimabara Uprising which saw 30,000 Christians samurais and peasants facing a massive samurai army of more than 100,000 sent from Edo. The rebellion was crushed at a high cost to the shogun's army. After the eradication of the rebels at Shimabara, the shogunate place foreigners under progressively tighter restrictions. It monopolized foreign policy, and expelled traders, missionaries, and foreigners, with the exception of the Dutch and the Chinese."
So, I'm pretty sure the Japanese know what Christianity is. However, they don't seem to have appreciated "the good word" since, you know, they don't fold their religious ideology like a card table and weren't particularly scared of the Jesuits or the Spanish that supported them.
(The funny anecdote here is that the Jesuits work was originally undone by a Spanish sailor, who, upon crashing in Japan with his crew, tried to scare the samurai summoned to the scene by pointing to a map, saying "this is all we control." The Samurai then asked how they did that, and the sailor, being a smug ass, said "we first send our priests, the Jesuits, to do the spiritual conversion for us." The samurai thanked him, then cut his head off, took his map, and reported this to the shogun. Hilarity ensued.)
(Don't you people ever open a goddamn history book before opening your mouths?)
This tale gained some fleeting media attention, once upon a time.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/5326614.stm
Small world, as they say.
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I hope there are gag 4koma. IT WOULD BE EPIC.
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