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I'm very surprised there's no Naruto topic here. So I guess I'll make one Edgy
I only read the manga. I watch Naruto, but not Shippuuden.
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I watched Naruto but ever since my cable was cut off, i havent seen it....
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The voice acting in the dub version drove me nuts with its voice acting so I started watching subbed and then fillers...
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It's a good show, but the quality seems to come and go. Like, there' be a set of good episodes, then some half-hearted episodes, then more action, etc. And I don't mean that just about "fillers" either, but rather the whole show.

Apeman1813 wrote:
The voice acting in the dub version drove me nuts with its voice acting so I started watching subbed and then fillers...


I found the dub to be one of the best in recent years, in terms of quality and sticking to the source material. They keep just about everything the same, and there's hardly any editing to be seen. The VA work itself is probably the best part.
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It's a good show, but the quality seems to come and go. Like, there' be a set of good episodes, then some half-hearted episodes, then more action, etc. And I don't mean that just about "fillers" either, but rather the whole show.

Apeman1813 wrote:
The voice acting in the dub version drove me nuts with its voice acting so I started watching subbed and then fillers...


I found the dub to be one of the best in recent years, in terms of quality and sticking to the source material. They keep just about everything the same, and there's hardly any editing to be seen. The VA work itself is probably the best part.

Are you kidding? Naruto keeps saying "believe it" repetitively in the dubbed, he never says it in the Japanese original. That and the Toad Sage (perverted hermit... I forgot his name) voice drove me nuts in the dubbed. Naruto is good when it comes to action, but voice acting in the dub and fillers in Japan right now are making me sick after a while.


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Well, in the Japanese, Naruto said something to the effect of "dattebayo," which apparently was untranslateable, so believe it came along. I am a Narutard, not afraid to admit it. I wore a Leaf Headband to the TMNT movie ><. I don't watch the anime, because it's gone too far ahead of the manga for my tastes, so ya.
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I used to watch it, up until the end of the first round of duels between the trainees, then they stopped doing new episodes for a while and I stopped watching. I think now there've been some new ones, but I haven't caught them.
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I used to watch it, It's awesome.
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Yeah, obviously I'm a Naruto fan. I watch Shippuuden on youtube, read the manga in shonen jump, and I've just started to watch the dub again because it got to the return of Itachi arc...
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Apeman1813 wrote:
Blademaster_Orca wrote:
It's a good show, but the quality seems to come and go. Like, there' be a set of good episodes, then some half-hearted episodes, then more action, etc. And I don't mean that just about "fillers" either, but rather the whole show.

Apeman1813 wrote:
The voice acting in the dub version drove me nuts with its voice acting so I started watching subbed and then fillers...


I found the dub to be one of the best in recent years, in terms of quality and sticking to the source material. They keep just about everything the same, and there's hardly any editing to be seen. The VA work itself is probably the best part.

Are you kidding? Naruto keeps saying "believe it" repetitively in the dubbed, he never says it in the Japanese original. That and the Toad Sage (perverted hermit... I forgot his name) voice drove me nuts in the dubbed. Naruto is good when it comes to action, but voice acting in the dub and fillers in Japan right now are making me sick after a while.
he doesn't say beleave it anymore...then again how would you know such a thing?you don't watch the dub...and naruto hasn't said it in about 30 episodes so your wrong.case closed you are guily of not liking the dub for dumb reasons. Judge
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Are you calling my opinion on the voices dumb? I don't go around saying people who watch it dumb, because they aren't and that's just their preference. I don't care if you guys like to watch it dub, but just respect that I just don't like it compare to watching it sub. I did use to watch dub at first, but it just got a bit annoying to me and started watching it sub. Besides that, I can watch the series much faster than having to wait week after week for a new episode (that is until I catch up with Japan's newest).


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Eh, Naruto's okay. But then it seems a bit... I dunno predictable. It's easy to tell which character will win the the fights. Also the animation seemed bad at times. Give me the manga to read any day.

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T3h_Waffleman wrote:
Well, in the Japanese, Naruto said something to the effect of "dattebayo," which apparently was untranslateable, so believe it came along. I am a Narutard, not afraid to admit it. I wore a Leaf Headband to the TMNT movie ><. I don't watch the anime, because it's gone too far ahead of the manga for my tastes, so ya.


Another Narutard right here. I own sound ninja gauntlets which I wear frequently, and a sound ninja headband, which I wear Shikimaru style (around the arm). I watch the anime when I can, but I mostly read the manga, because it's purely uncut.
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Naruto used to be really great for about the first hundred episodes, but most of its good aspects have pretty much disappeared then in lieu of becoming DBZ 2. I stopped watching a little while into the filler, and just started again with Shippuuden to see if it gets any better. So far, it's still painfully slow.

The dub is really true to the original, except for the occasional weird thing (Toad Sage?) or mispronounciation of a character's name (I almost went mad hearing "Shi-ka-MAAH-roo" repeated so many times in one episode). Really, the only thing that bothers me that much is the voice acting. A lot of it is really annoying, especially Naruto. I still just stick to the subbed episodes to make sure I'm not missing anything.
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I used to watch Naruto, up till Episode 140 or so, then I read the Manga and I think it's pretty bad now, no-where near as interesting as it used to be. Naruto as a whole is incredibly Overatted, so is Bleach (of course this is just my opinion).
One Piece on the other hand....*drools at it's awesomeness*
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Naruto is okay, but I now consider it quite cliche.
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I've only seen this show once or twice,

Now I wanna see it again. It looks cool.
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I personally like Naruto,but the voice acting can get annoying from time to time, especially Naruto.
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I personally like Naruto,but the voice acting can get annoying from time to time, especially Naruto.
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I've started watching the reruns now, and I've gotten back into it. Every episode typically has action, and that's what I like in an anime.
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I watched a lot of Naruto subbed until the fillers in the hundreds started. I watched dub version when it was on t.v. as well, and I like the dub. It sounds very good, when compared to the One Piece dub. I love One Piece too, but only the sub.

I've watched the first 7 episodes of Shippuuden, and I'm going to wait until I have a bunch more and watch it in a marathon. I'll most likely skip all the review parts, opening and ending songs too.

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Dub=Phail
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Shippudenn(however it's spelled)=Win.
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I pretty much enjoy Naruto for the most part, though I'll take the manga over the anime any day. I pretty much hated the fillers, but there were a few that I was able to tolerate. I dunno if its just me, but I feel like since Shippudden has started, its being dragged out and going by slowly, but it may be just me.
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I dunno. I'm an old school Narutard. The filler killed me...almost. Some of the storylines were damn stupid, but even so, I can understand the need for them. Some of the filler I like, like the Laughing Shino episode.

I refuse to watch the dub. The dub is a very touchy subject for me, because I hate the voice acting. It gets on my nerves so much it's not even funny. Naruto's voice makes me want to hit something, because it just rubs me the wrong way. The names are so different from what I'm used to, I can't help but facepalm at it. It just sounds...off cadence to me.

And the technique names make no sense. "Fire Style: Huge Fireball Jutsu"? I can't accept that. I would much prefer to hear "Katon: Gōkakyū no Jutsu" with a translation at the bottom of the screen. I really think they dropped the ball on the dub. But I'm way ahead of my friends who watch the dub, so I can't discuss Shippuuden with them, but I can discuss most of the fandom with them.

I suppose I'm being nitpicky, at least where the dub is concerned, but this was my first true fandom, where I jumped in right when it started in America. I still have my issues of Shonen Jump where it premiered. I'm allowed to have my opinions, and I refuse to get into debate over dub vs. sub. They both have their redeeming qualities, even if I've seen better dubs. We're lucky Cartoon Network saw fit to release it to the public, and that it has the following it does. That keeps the merchandise coming, because lord knows I need more headbands. Godot

To be honest, the only thing I would like to change about the series is the godawful fanfiction I've found, but that's another story. I love the series, and think it's great that it's become so popular. I even saw some Kakashi and Iruka cosplayers at MidSouthCon this year, which was pretty damn surreal. I still have to catch up on the manga, though.
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Dub=Phail
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Agreed wholeheartedly. Shippuden is awesome. And that's my opinion on Naruto.
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I used to read it shounen jump when it debuted in the united states, I watched the subs when I discovered them(at 11), I watched the dub all the way through while watching the subs and honestly it sounds the same. And not much is changed. In the TV version some blood is cut out but in my opinion that made the blood loss look realistic. In all honesty you don't loose alot of blood when you first get stabbed. You only start loosing a lot when you take the knife out.

Ignoring all that, I basically dropped out of the fandom because of the QUALITY animation, predictable and cliche` story line, and uninteresting action seqences. I mean I get excited when a huge battle starts and then its "Talking tiem" and after the talking they only take 2 swings at each other until "FLASH BACK AND MOAR TALKING TIEM" And by then I loose the excitment and wish the arc would end already.
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I was never big with Naruto, but I do really enjoy the redubs on YouTube making fun of the anime. Edgy
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Shippuden is awesome. And that's my opinion on Naruto.


Is that with or without the subpar animation and dreadfully slow pacing? :/

Naruto's a fair manga and show, despite the many flaws it has. The plot may be arcehtypal and the only time it's been good is during the Land of Waves arc, but at least it's not made of 23 minutes of pathetic fanservice *cough*Eiken*cough*. The manga's a tad better than the animé, since Akatsuki's involved more. That, and Tobi's involved more. TOBI. Tobi, along with Juugo, Suigetsu, and Karin, is one of the only interesting things left what with the dwindling and PREDICTABLE plotline and all that.

I have no problem with the show and manga, but what kills it is the damn fanbase composed of all those "ZOMFG S@SuK3 is t3h R0xorz!" fans. It's like the Lizardon Noob Fanbase at most Pokémon Forums. THEY WORSHIP HIM. I gotta admit, though, I AM a bit of a Narutard myself, but I try my best not to go overboard. -.-
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Is that with or without the subpar animation and dreadfully slow pacing? :/

Naruto's a fair manga and show, despite the many flaws it has. The plot may be arcehtypal and the only time it's been good is during the Land of Waves arc, but at least it's not made of 23 minutes of pathetic fanservice *cough*Eiken*cough*. The manga's a tad better than the animé, since Akatsuki's involved more. That, and Tobi's involved more. TOBI. Tobi, along with Juugo, Suigetsu, and Karin, is one of the only interesting things left what with the dwindling and PREDICTABLE plotline and all that.

I have no problem with the show and manga, but what kills it is the damn fanbase composed of all those "ZOMFG S@SuK3 is t3h R0xorz!" fans. It's like the Lizardon Noob Fanbase at most Pokémon Forums. THEY WORSHIP HIM. I gotta admit, though, I AM a bit of a Narutard myself, but I try my best not to go overboard. -.-


I'm seconding this opinion... The plot is pretty damn predictable, and the manga is somewhat better than the anime...
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I used to watch Naruto, up till Episode 140 or so, then I read the Manga and I think it's pretty bad now, no-where near as interesting as it used to be. Naruto as a whole is incredibly Overatted, so is Bleach (of course this is just my opinion).
One Piece on the other hand....*drools at it's awesomeness*


Now this is a statement I can agree with.

I liked Naruto at first, but then again my anime experience at that time was limited to Dragonball Z so of course I felt Naruto had a more involving storyline.

Needless to say when I started reading other series I lost interest in Naruto. When I look back at Naruto as a whole it just doesn't really feel as good as I thought it was.

Also I have to say if there was one thing I could change about the Naruto fandom. It's the people who claim Naruto to be the greatest fictional work ever made and that all other anime/manga suck in comparison. It really get's on my nerves especially when they do it with One Piece (which is a really good series) when they haven't even seen it.

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I've noticed that alot of manga that focuses around fighting and all that like Naruto eventually always seems to become predictable. Fights will be dragged out, the hero may get close to dying and such, but will eventually win and the bad guy will lose. Just look at Dragonball. The beginning started out pretty original, but got more and more predictable as the story when on, just like how Naruto is doing right now. I just know I'm gonna get stabbed by saying this stuff. Don't get me wrong though, I really do enjoy Naruto (manga more than anime) and check out the new chappy and episode each week, but it seems to be sharing the fate that most Shounen manga and animes share: Predictablilty.
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I've noticed that alot of manga that focuses around fighting and all that like Naruto eventually always seems to become predictable. Fights will be dragged out, the hero may get close to dying and such, but will eventually win and the bad guy will lose. Just look at Dragonball. The beginning started out pretty original, but got more and more predictable as the story when on, just like how Naruto is doing right now. I just know I'm gonna get stabbed by saying this stuff. Don't get me wrong though, I really do enjoy Naruto (manga more than anime) and check out the new chappy and episode each week, but it seems to be sharing the fate that most Shounen manga and animes share: Predictablilty.


True. Most shounen manga are predictable, but it's how the writer works with that predictablity that really sells the series. One Piece, Rurouni Kenshin, Konjiki no Gash Bell, Full Metal Alchemist (manga), Detective Conan... They all do this quite well and it makes them excellent series.

Bleach though seems more like a fashion show than a manga since I don't even think there's any semblence of a story anymore.

and well when I look back at Naruto it just seems like Kishimoto just doesn't know what the heck he's doing most of the time. I mean most writers have a good basic outline of the story up until the end becore they actually begin. It may be just my opinion, but I think Kishimoto doesn't really know where he's going with the Naruto manga. Part 2 alone is proof of that.
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I can understand though that some mangas may seem like they don't know what direction they should be heading in since the mangaka only has a limited amount of time until the releases of the next chapters (like less than a week or so), but what seperates a good manga from a great one is the mangaka having an excellent idea as to where the story is heading and already has it all fleshed out in advance instead of trying to make stuff up as you work along a vague idea that hasn't really been explored.
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I can understand though that some mangas may seem like they don't know what direction they should be heading in since the mangaka only has a limited amount of time until the releases of the next chapters (like less than a week or so), but what seperates a good manga from a great one is the mangaka having an excellent idea as to where the story is heading and already has it all fleshed out in advance instead of trying to make stuff up as you work along a vague idea that hasn't really been explored.


I agree...

You know what's a shame though? Hunter x Hunter's fate. I mean really that's a great series yet it's discontinued right now because of various theories about the mangaka being sick or lazy.
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The only thing I thought was bad about Naruto was the filler so I skipped most of it and went into Shippuden.

I'm a pure Narutard and not afraid to admit it. All this stuff about it being predictable and annoying is annoying itself. I've watched One Piece and read the manga, but I never thought it was really that good and thought that Naruto was much better

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Also I have to say if there was one thing I could change about the Naruto fandom. It's the people who claim Naruto to be the greatest fictional work ever made and that all other anime/manga suck in comparison. It really get's on my nerves especially when they do it with One Piece (which is a really good series) when they haven't even seen it.


One Piece kicks ass. I'll admit I thought the art was "ugly" when I first saw it, but once I started doing research and watching episodes it really grew on me. :pearl:

Now it (along with Naruto) has become one of those obsessions I can't shake even when I try. Not that I'm complaining or anything.
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Tomoshibi Amatsu wrote:
Also I have to say if there was one thing I could change about the Naruto fandom. It's the people who claim Naruto to be the greatest fictional work ever made and that all other anime/manga suck in comparison. It really get's on my nerves especially when they do it with One Piece (which is a really good series) when they haven't even seen it.

I agree. This is what kind of turns me off Naruto (and Bleach)...
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Okay, so they say your anime sucks without seeing it. Tough luck for them! That's no reason to hate Naruto or Bleach!
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I don't hate Naruto or Bleach... I don't judge things without seeing them! XD

But because of them, I don't really bother trying to. >_>;
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