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Is it wrong that I actually found a theme that'd work if somehow the PW cast were fighters and had to chase Dahlia and beat her back into hell? And it's actually a track from a newer Sonic game? XDDD
Here, this is what I'm listening to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAxxQ-PY ... re=related "Boss - Deep Core" from Sonic Rush Adventure.
Anyway, I hope you have hints ready for her, cause you know she only comes on for about an hour each night. XD And having her in two subplots, one right after the other, will be quite slow.
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Dahlia should posses everyone. Except Iris, that makes her the odd one out and that way, she gets
Xero, I'm flicking through my FIre Emblem collection later to find Dahlia-esque stuff XD "Power-hungry Fool"... *shot*
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Allthough... It'd be interesting if Iris THINKS he's possesed even though he isn't! He's anti-social and mad enough to make her think that :D
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Mm, well I've no objections. It can be Iris and Feenie's subplot.
I was thinking more that it could be the way to start bringing an end to the current madness.
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I think it'll develop Meghan and Chris' relationship nicely, if ya know what I'm saying.
Oh, and Dahlia PM me about it - because I really have no clue whatsoever.
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Can you please take care of Chris when I leave tomorrow, LSH? =\
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Oh and about the PM, Chris, I have no idea. Dahlia is gonna clear that up for me.
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Everyone else, see you Sunday! Try not to exorcise Dahlia TOO fast... ;P
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The only real danger that Chris is in right now is that if he can't keep his soul separated from Dahlia's (you know how when you're doing laundry and your roommates stuff gets all mixed in with yours) then it'll take longer to get Dahlia out later. Not impossible, just difficult. Bikini didn't bring this up because she didn't want Dahlia to know that he best course of action would be to eat Chris' soul and combine it with her own rather than try and force him out. Which even if she tried she actually can't do with the hood locked anyway. No souls go in, no souls go out as long as that hood is there and turned on.
Oh, and what I've been doing with Phoenix was that her plan was to break his soul so that even if he died he wouldn't be able to move on to heaven or hell. He would simply crumble to nothing. Which, as we can see, she's managed to nearly finish. His aura is all cracked and chipping off in spots so he's going to be pretty unstable until Bikini whips out the divine duct tape and sticks him back together.
The experiance has also left him much more sensitive to spirits, as we saw earlier when he could see Dahlia pulling the strings when he touched Chris. He might be able to spot the spirit in Emi too if he can touch her.
I did this mostly to expand on the idea in the games where at the end of certain chapters he could see Mia floating around. These were usually chapters where he'd gone through a large amount of stress. So just imagine what having his soul whacked with a vengeance bat can do to him.
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By the way, this is a speculative plan, which is why it only involves the characters that I play. I leave it up to you how your character will fit into it. It's also by no means the law of the plot, if you think any part of it is silly or could be better in any way you're free to say so. I want to keep things democratic around here if I can. Voting is awesome.
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The scenario I have in my head now is that the evil gets expelled like normal (think about it like washing a dirty pair of jeans) but since she had borrowed demonic power the evil just sort of mucks up and gains its own half sentient sort of form. While this will likely create all sorts of new plot complications down the line, it also allows Dahlia to repent and not have to spend eternity in hell. Which I'm sure will make Iris very happy.
This is, of course, just one option, and I only presented it for the sake of getting the 'True Ending', if you will, as opposed to the 'Good Ending' where Dahlia repents but still goes to hell to accept her punishment and the 'Bad Ending' where she gets banished and ceases to exist. (Guess which of the endings will make Iris cry?)
EDIT: A little talking with Xero presented a couple of other ideas too. Permanent possession.
I can tell you right now Bikini will not suggest, support, or assist in this scenario, but basically it would mean finding either a willing (or possibly already soul less) host for Dahlia to reside in.
Another would be combination. Bikini will not help with nor suggest this one either. It would do just what it sounds like and combine the souls of two people into one mixing equal parts of both into them. This would, in effect, cease both people from existing and create an entirely new person, and if it doesn't we will likely have a severe case of split personality.
Combination could also be a very unfortunate result of a botching of one of the above endings. The 'Wow-You-Really-Effed-Up-On-That-One Ending'.
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The only problem is that Dahlia's body is pretty much buried. D:
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Gregory Wright wrote:
I'm voting with Xero on this one. Although...do you think Papa Hawthorne would've bothered to arrange a funeral for Dahlia? Could she still be in a morgue? And since we're dealing with the supernatural here, what's to prevent a little bodily regeneration? It's no less possible than resurrection. Now that I think about it...if my theories are plausible, I think I'll place priority on "permanent possession". We could even have her reconcile with Doug or something. I, for one, think that would be über-sweet.
Question. o.o Remember the fact that her body was taken to the hospital. So, believe it or not, the hospital more than likely buried the body. How would it even be possible for her body to not be, as Sen once put it, 'six feet under'?
And, I've never heard of 'bodily regeneration' before, but if it's a theory that works, I'm all for it. Right now, the idea Chris has is being the body used for the purification, as he really feels sorry for her right now.
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! A new idea just occurred to me. There are accounts (however anecdotal and unsubstantiated) of coffins floating out of their pits that were making the rounds among the Russian Orthodox from Nicholas II's reign. Specifically, I'm referring to Saint Simeon of Verkhoturye. At least one pilgrim was said to have rubbed dirt from the coffin on himself and thus gotten healed or something like that. Admittedly, Simeon's body didn't move, but if previously buried coffins can resurface, throwing in a resurrection doesn't seem like too much of a stretch. It could cause a real stir too if anyone saw it happening. This could have the bonus of drawing one or two of our less active characters into the story a bit. Just a thought.
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Xero Wright wrote:
Gregory Wright wrote:
I'm voting with Xero on this one. Although...do you think Papa Hawthorne would've bothered to arrange a funeral for Dahlia? Could she still be in a morgue? And since we're dealing with the supernatural here, what's to prevent a little bodily regeneration? It's no less possible than resurrection. Now that I think about it...if my theories are plausible, I think I'll place priority on "permanent possession". We could even have her reconcile with Doug or something. I, for one, think that would be über-sweet.
Question. o.o Remember the fact that her body was taken to the hospital. So, believe it or not, the hospital more than likely buried the body. How would it even be possible for her body to not be, as Sen once put it, 'six feet under'?
I was going to say Dahlia had been cremated; for some reason I really think that's what would have happened in a situation like that. It wouldn't have been immediately, though. The police would have still needed her to finish their investigation of the Dusky Bridge incident to be sure no foul play was involved.
That's why I voted for a time skip of two weeks; it would give time to let everyone recover a bit and to complete the investigation.
Also, Mr. Hawthorne is dead.
I'll explain my theory for that in-game if I get a chance, or I guess I can tell someone if they really want to know.
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Unless we will resurrect Dahlia, Stefan would volunteer for possession, if he was awake. He would probably welcome the spirit anyhow. If you do go down that route, and make Stefan the one to get possessed, ^o^. But I'm away until the 30th... ><
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I'll go with the majority decision, of course, but I'm personally against resurrection and soul fusing. As tempting as the thought of a reformed Dahlia being around is, it's really something that should have been done while she was still alive if at all. Besides, like Gerk said, she along with Nick and Iris have been the center of attention for an awfully long time; I think the other characters should get a chance to move out of the background.
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Franzise, I would like to hear your 'Mr. Hawthorne is dead' theory. I would PM this, but the lack of a mouse makes it harder ><
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However, it is a reasonable theory =D
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And yeah, wishful thinking. Mr. Hawthorne is a total prick and the thought of him being dead makes me a little happier inside.
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
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And yeah, wishful thinking. Mr. Hawthrone is a total prick and the thought of him being dead makes me a little happier inside.
And yeah, wishful thinking. Mr. Hawthrone is a total prick and the thought of him being dead makes me a little happier inside.
Oops. Stupid possbile innuendo.
Although I haven't played T&T (if it ever comes it in Europe.), he sounds like a prick. Why bother having children at all if your going to leave one at a temple, and drive the other to insanity?
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I spoiled myself on all the games anyway.
And from that, I change his title from 'Papa' to 'Grand Bastard Hawthorne'.
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I can see that scenario with Dollie's dad as a real possibility. Her mother, I'm sure, got whatever money was left if she didn't divorce him the second it was gone.
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