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Then don't say stupid stuff like 'That's pituful' if you don't know what we're talking about!!
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SuzuneAyasato wrote:
Hmm..I will probably appear on both trees, I'm for s-s-marriages, but I will marry CCCM, so I won't have a gay/les wedding..
Why is this going so far? I don't want to lose my old family, but I don't want to offense anyone from the new tree!
Why is this going so far? I don't want to lose my old family, but I don't want to offense anyone from the new tree!
I've stated it before:
1. Can't be on both
2. You don't have to be gay or les to be on my tree
3. You don't have to move if you don't want to. It's up to you.
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Neon Lemmy Koopa wrote:
...sorry.
'Kay.
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I thought this was for discussing families and making "building blocks", and chitchat with other members. All I've seen is fights and nasty spam. I know all topics have their moments, but there's a limit.
If it didn't mean deserting my family I would have left a while ago, but I waited for it to get better. And it didn't. I'll leave if they do.
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SuzuneAyasato wrote:
Hmm..I will probably appear on both trees,
You can't, if you go to the other tree you can't be on this one. I'm also making that rule.
We need to keep them as separate as we can.
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Sclarvv wrote:
I meant roleplay-related.
I thought this was for discussing families and making "building blocks", and chitchat with other members.
I thought this was for discussing families and making "building blocks", and chitchat with other members.
This is part of that. This is talking about how the tree and the families will work in this topic.
People look at this as a game, then they realize that this is more like a family than they thought.
It isn't "I marry you, lets have matching sigs." this is a family. We work together, we fight, we work together for solutions. That is life, that is family, that is us.
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Donald Serrot wrote:
People look at this as a game, then they realize that this is more like a family than they thought.
It isn't "I marry you, lets have matching sigs." this is a family. We work together, we fight, we work together for solutions. That is life, that is family, that is us.
[/quote]It isn't "I marry you, lets have matching sigs." this is a family. We work together, we fight, we work together for solutions. That is life, that is family, that is us.
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Fleggin wrote:
I expected praise for creating this second tree
Well you definitely aint gettin none
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Fleggin wrote:
I expected praise for creating this second tree, not all this bitching about how you want or don't want to move. If you folks want to all stay, then forget it. Just realize that I was only trying to find a solution to a problem. I'm sick of the fucking bitching.
It's not an easy job by any means, and it is a thankless one at that.
You have to give of your own free time to monitor what goes on, keep the peace, and anything else required.
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Fleggin wrote:
That's okay with me, Don. You are indeed entitled to your beliefs, and if I'm to make another tree thread, I'll have to respect your decision. It's nothing personal at all.
Thank you for finally saying what we've been trying to get you to say for a whole page and a half.
Sklarvv wrote:
Guys. This is ridiculus.
I agree with Fleggin that same sex marriages are okay, but it just isn't my call. Don heads this and can do whatever he wants with it, and, even though I doubt I'll ever be able to look at him the same again after this, doesn't like the idea at all. Which is fine. He wasn't going around flaming people who chose that path, so he's not hurting anyone. Just leave it, guys.
And Fleggin, I support your idea of a any-marriage tree, but please, don't.
This thing is an intricate network, and when people start to leave it'll rip holes in it. Just... don't.
I agree with Fleggin that same sex marriages are okay, but it just isn't my call. Don heads this and can do whatever he wants with it, and, even though I doubt I'll ever be able to look at him the same again after this, doesn't like the idea at all. Which is fine. He wasn't going around flaming people who chose that path, so he's not hurting anyone. Just leave it, guys.
And Fleggin, I support your idea of a any-marriage tree, but please, don't.
This thing is an intricate network, and when people start to leave it'll rip holes in it. Just... don't.
QFT--every single word.
Donald Serrot wrote:
People look at this as a game, then they realize that this is more like a family than they thought.
It isn't "I marry you, lets have matching sigs." This is a family. We work together, we fight, we work together for solutions. That is life, that is family, that is us.
It isn't "I marry you, lets have matching sigs." This is a family. We work together, we fight, we work together for solutions. That is life, that is family, that is us.
......Alright, Don, apparently your conception of "Roleplay" was different from what I thought. It's fine, and I understand exactly what you mean--but I can't help but feel that this is sometimes taken way too seriously. I realize that this is something that takes serious effort and serious thought, but when you come down to it, it's just Roleplay. It's a fabulous roleplay--for lack of a better word at the moment--but sometimes we need to step back and think, logically, about what's going on, and then resume what we were doing, in order to solve our problems. There's no other way to solve Princess in a Box 2.
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Haibara~n wrote:
Fleggin wrote:
That's okay with me, Don. You are indeed entitled to your beliefs, and if I'm to make another tree thread, I'll have to respect your decision. It's nothing personal at all.
Thank you for finally saying what we've been trying to get you to say for a whole page and a half.
I don't need smartass shit from someone who just popped up out of fucking nowehre.
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Haibara~n wrote:
Donald Serrot wrote:
People look at this as a game, then they realize that this is more like a family than they thought.
It isn't "I marry you, lets have matching sigs." This is a family. We work together, we fight, we work together for solutions. That is life, that is family, that is us.
It isn't "I marry you, lets have matching sigs." This is a family. We work together, we fight, we work together for solutions. That is life, that is family, that is us.
......Alright, Don, apparently your conception of "Roleplay" was different from what I thought. It's fine, and I understand exactly what you mean--but I can't help but feel that this is sometimes taken way too seriously.
When I said that this is a family I meant this topic.
This topic isn't RP, it's stated in the first post.
And I have to take this seriously, I have to keep things under control in here.
I'm responsible for this tree and this topic. I'm held accountable for it.
It's like Velo and MSOB in Mafia. They are responsible for the game. If something happens they have to make sure it's fixed. If they need to make a rule they make the rule.
In that same vein a question was brought up, I made the rule, and people tried to get me to change it.
MSOB and Velo aren't gonna change a rule for a few people and neither am I.
I have to stan by what I said, if I don't it will be harder to stand be a decision next time something comes up, and the next time, and the next time, until I become a pushover who doesn't enforce his rules. I don't play that game.
So I have to treat this as a serious matter, even if it started as a joke question.
Everyone just chill. We don't need to continue this. We have already seen how people feel, we know that there are people who won't budge, just chill, don't stir up the fire more, and don't continue this here.
Sclarvv, this is what it is, you come here to get away from your family, this is a family, we deal with the same problems here.
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Tuesday and I have decided to leave this tree, but we will not be joining the new tree.
Don, you said you wouldn't budge, that's fine, You said this is a familiy...well not all family who loves their children gives them the ultimatum either be straight or give them the "YOU'RE NOT MY SON/DAUGHTER, GET OUT, YOU'RE NOT A PART OF THIS FAMILY" deal.
these are my final words to all, for all who cares.
Please understand, Tuesday and I are victims of this situation. WE married merely because we wanted to, and because Don has his rules, and we chose to join this RP, neither me nor Tuesday made any complaint about not being able to let our marriage be in the tree. But suddenly, this happens.
Does anyone care about how we feel, trapped in the middle?!
sure, you all say it's free choice, but ever know this thing called guilt tab?!
Don, You guys brought up an old issue when the two people involved didn't even talk about it, you people use words to put us in a position where we have to choose between love for family (I do love you clarounette you're a great friend but your kind words really pushed me into a corner) and our ideals, this ISN'T EVEN ABOUT FAMILY ANYMORE, IT'S ABOUT TWO PEOPLE WHO "PLAYS" FAMILY WHO REFUSE TO COMPROMISE ON A POLITICAL/SOCIAL IDEA, BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT?! REAL FAMILY COMPROMISE FOR FAMILY MEMBERS, MOST PEOPLE DON'T KICK KIDS OUT OF FAMILIES FOR NOT BEING STRAIGHT, SO DON'T GO AROUND USING THE WORD "FAMILY" AS AN EXCUSE, BECAUSE ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS NOT "FAMILY LOVE" BUT YOUR OWN LITTLE BELIEVES!!
As for Fleggin, I do support your tree, but please understand, Tuesday and I got married BEFORE this whole event occured, there is so much mention of us in your new tree tnat it burdens me with guilt when I think about wanting to maybe stay with this family. I owe you that much, because you did start with good intentions towards us, but...Tuesday and I didn't complain because we wanted to stay with this family, however, you have taken up our cause without even considering this and pushed us into the spotlight. In some sense you are just like Don, you used us as an excuse to follow your own ideals, have you ever considered how much it would hurt me and Tuesday when we're put on the spot? When we have to leave her family members? shouldn't you even ask us before you start a thread because of us?
my ideals are with Fleggin and I fully support their idea, but I truly love Tuesday's family, Clarounette is a good friend and I really don't want to hurt her feelings. I'm sorry, but if you people truly cared for us, we wouldn't be pushed into such a corner. You say it's all ups to us, but all of you know that by merely forcing us to make a choice, it's bad enough. We're not robots who can base our decisions purely on thoughts, we have feelings, we're not out to run for ms.popularity either but guess what, we don't want to hurt our friends' feelings.
So, what can we do?
Tuesday and I have decided to leave this thread, nor are we going to join the new tree. From now on, we're happy, we're married, and we're just us. what kind of families back their kids into corners to either give up their right to properly be claimed married and enjoy the happiness, or have to give up their family? that is not a family, an NEITHER OF THE TWO SIDES TRULY CARES ABOUT HOW WE FEEL AS HUMANS, SO YOU KNOW WHAT ?! WE'VE HAD ENOUGH.
THIS ISN'T EVEN ABOUT REASON ANYMORE, DON YOU NEVER EVEN GAVE ONE GOOD REASON, YOUR ONLY DEFENSE IS THAT YOU'RE THE BOSS OF THIS THREAD AND YOU CAN RUN IT, AND SINCE YOU SAID FLEGGIN WON'T NEGOTIATE EITHER, YOU KNOW WHAT ? THIS ISN'T EVEN ABOUT LES/GAY MARRIAGE ANYMORE, IT'S ABOUT TWO MEN WHO REFUSE TO PUT DOWN THEIR DEFENSES AND NEGOTIATE AND COME TO A CONSENSUS, IT'S A POWER STRUGGLE, NOT A FIGHT FOR IDEALS ANYMORE. AND WORSE OF ALL TUESDAY AND I ARE CAUGHT IN THIS ALL.
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However, I suddenly found myself being cornered and have to make a choice,even Flames and I haven't complained anything about being not able to be an official couple on the tree. I'm also feeling sorry to her for that, but it's O.K. as far as every one know we've been together and we love each other.
Talking about "love" here, first I want to make it clear that both of us are straight. We married because we want to have fun and enjoy RP with other family numbers as a couple. Flame and I are good friends in real life, I used to believe what really does matter in the tree is the feeling. Internet is something visional, but relationship and people's feeling is true. I can't see why it can't be accepted even Flames changed her user gender. Well, since Don does see a problem here, I don't want to argue with him, he didn't jumped up and say our wedding is not allowed, etc, so we let it go.
No offense, Don, but I believe most of people here don't like your idea about anti-same-gender marriage, they decide to stay in the old one because they don't want to leave their family.
Well... in this case, although I'm really feeling bad for this, but I have to admit Flame is right. I'm agree with her and decide to leave the tree. Sorry, I love all of you, I don't want to leave, but I don't know a better solution except leaving forever. Wish everyone enjoy your RP like always, and the new tree getting more and more supporters. Thanks.
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Fleggin wrote:
All I can say to you Haibara~n, is shut up. You haven't said one thing, so don't even think about saying "we". So chill the fuck out.
What you just said is paradoxial. That, and at least I said something was wasn't demeaning.
I'm not asking you to shut up--I'm asking you to calm down.
Please.
Edit: Don, I never said you shouldn't take it seriously--in fact, you could take it quite seriously, if you so wish.
I'm simply saying that, when it comes down to it, it's still something like "roleplay". I don't think you understand exactly what I mean, but...
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flames05 wrote:
Don, you said you wouldn't budge, that's fine, You said this is a familiy...well not all family who loves their children gives them the ultimatum either be straight or give them the "YOU'RE NOT MY SON/DAUGHTER, GET OUT, YOU'RE NOT A PART OF THIS FAMILY" deal.
I never once did that.
I said that I wouldn't stop you guys from doing that but I wouldn't add it to the tree picture.
SO WOULD EVERYONE STOP PUTTING FLIPPIN WORDS IN MY MOUTH!
I STATED MANY TIMES THIS FACT! SO WHY CONTINUE TO STATE THIS!
PLEAS STOP! TAKE TIME TO ACTUALLY READ WHAT I SAID!
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Now I do.
Everyone is taking this way too far.
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I'll log off for a while, then come back later, since that seems like it's what everyone wants me to do, anyway.
Edit: Cut.
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Fleggin wrote:
Sorry, everyone. I just thought I would try and help, but I took it all too far.
I think we all did in a way.
It may be good for all of us to log out for a bit and clear our minds. I'm going to.
Listening to some EBA/Ouendan 1 & 2 songs while playing WoW sounds good right now. XD
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Now if everyone just said that, we'd all be a bit happier! So I'll start:
I'm sorry if I did anything to offend or hurt anyone in any way.
Haibara: I don't want you gone! I'm not mand at you at all! Everyone's a bit....touchy.....right now.
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Donald Serrot wrote:
This is your choice, but before I read everything I want to say something about this.
I never once did that.
I said that I wouldn't stop you guys from doing that but I wouldn't add it to the tree picture.
SO WOULD EVERYONE STOP PUTTING FLIPPIN WORDS IN MY MOUTH!
I STATED MANY TIMES THIS FACT! SO WHY CONTINUE TO STATE THIS!
PLEAS STOP! TAKE TIME TO ACTUALLY READ WHAT I SAID!
flames05 wrote:
Don, you said you wouldn't budge, that's fine, You said this is a familiy...well not all family who loves their children gives them the ultimatum either be straight or give them the "YOU'RE NOT MY SON/DAUGHTER, GET OUT, YOU'RE NOT A PART OF THIS FAMILY" deal.
I never once did that.
I said that I wouldn't stop you guys from doing that but I wouldn't add it to the tree picture.
SO WOULD EVERYONE STOP PUTTING FLIPPIN WORDS IN MY MOUTH!
I STATED MANY TIMES THIS FACT! SO WHY CONTINUE TO STATE THIS!
PLEAS STOP! TAKE TIME TO ACTUALLY READ WHAT I SAID!
Don...with some people, not putting it on the tree means the same thing.
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