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"Well on acount of not ever going and shooting anyone seems I cant, could always start though"
Domanic grabbed a revolver and pointed at him, cocked it and pulled the trigger...only a flame came out, turns out it was his lighter and not his pistol.


“That’s a nice lighter,” says Florsy, holding out her own. “Your’s is a lot nicer than mine.”

She turns to everyone else.

“Personally, I think Dante’s one of the nicer of us criminals. There shouldn’t be anything wrong with letting him free... not that my opinion matters.”

She turns to Lou now.

“Are you sure you just found it laying there? You didn’t go into my room to take one did you? Only other criminals could have done it unaccompanied too.”
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She turns to Lou now.

“Are you sure you just found it laying there? You didn’t go into my room to take one did you? Only other criminals could have done it unaccompanied too.”

"I didn't go into your room to get weed. If I did I'd be asking why you had a poison blunt in there."
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“Fair enough.” Florsy bows. “I’m sorry.”
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"Where did you say you found the, er, blunt, again?" Zayne asked Lou, struggling to keep up with all the back-and-forth.
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"If I remember right, Lou himself said that he found the blunt in the game room." Axel answered Zayne.
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"Er, right, okay..." Zayne screwed up his face in thought. "So... why there? Where was it in that room, exactly? Was it just the one, on its own?"
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"If we go by what they said, they're trying to imply that whoever poisoned everyone's tea left it there on purpose."

Vera gives a dramatic pause, "But that doesn't make sense! Why would you just do that and give away your plan like that? Sounds like a lie that only one person could set up..."
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"If you're talking about me..." Florsy sighs, having peaked with the weed and going back to normal... relatively speaking. "Anyone could have taken the poisonous plants, and any of the prisoners could have taken a joint from my room."

Florsy pauses, and ponders for a moment.

"Although... to be able to identify which plants are poisonous, it's not something everyone can do. Only myself and Zayne... and seeing as Zayne isn't a prisoner... great, now even I'm beginning to wonder if I did it. Only chance is if someone is secretly hiding their advanced knowledge on plants... I suppose Rover is a possibility. Or if Zayne managed to get into my room with the help of a fellow prisoner..."

She gives Zayne a guilty look.

"But I trust Zayne."
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"You said a lot of supplies had been stolen, right? If no-one else can identify the poisonous plants... maybe they just didn't know they were taking poisonous plants in the first place?" Zayne suggested. "If they were just grabbing all kinds of stuff."
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"...it's, a possibility. My weed samples from the garden were taken too. They could have combined the two to create the poison blunt easily... no need to break into my room even. But the only person who could have identified the poison to create the poisonous blunt... is you Zayne."

Florsy tries to shake it off.

"But I don't want to believe it... even if you are captured here for some reason. I suppose someone could have taken the weed and the poisons, and just not realized..."
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"That's what I mean! Everyone knows about what you grow, right? They saw some plants grown by you, assumed they were all drugs, and took them for themselves," Zayne theorised. "They didn't know some of them were poisonous, so prepared them to be smoked. It's the kind of dumb mistake I might make, so I can kinda sympathise," he concluded with a light-hearted chuckle.
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The light hearted chuckle only made Florsy more worried.

"Zayne... you didn't do it, did you? I trust you, you are one of, if not the nicest person here. And I want nothing more than the two of us to be set free... but failing that, I'd rather you go than me... if you tell me that it wasn't you, then I will believe you. I will believe, that someone, unaware, happened to take the weed and the poison, and clumsily dropped it into the game room... but if something comes up proving that whoever dropped it did so knowing full well it was poison..."

Florsy's expression saddened.
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"Ah, I don't do drugs," Zayne replied nervously, put off-balance by the random accusations that seemed to come from nowhere. "I wouldn't wanna take anything like that, I just meant that I can make silly mistakes sometimes, so it's easy to imagine someone else doing so! My point is... er, well, maybe Lou just wanted some of your stash? S-so, like, he took some of the plants you'd been growing, not realising what they were, and accidentally poisoned himself." He looked quite uncomfortable about having to accuse someone like that. "I know I don't have any proof or anything, I just have a gut feeling that there's no malice involved in all this! Maybe he put the leaves he took into an unlabelled spice jar for safe keeping, and then you assumed they were tea leaves?"
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"Zayne..." Florsy looks at him straight in the eyes. "Look me in the eye, and tell me you didn't do it."
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Zayne nodded, and looked her in the eye as requested. "I didn't do it."
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Florsy smiles at him.

"Ok, I trust you. A mystery person took my plants, not knowing of the poisonous one, and accidentally poisoned Lou. That is what I believe has happened."
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"W-well, as I said I think it's possible Lou himself was responsible for that," Zayne said, growing uncomfortable again. "It's easier for me to wrap my head around than some mysterious person doing it, leaving a single blunt lying around, and then Lou finding it and deciding to smoke it without even knowing what it was."
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"Why does talking about Lou make you so nervous?" Florsy asks. "Him being a prisoner, he had the option to just take one from my room... which I imagine would look a lot more suspicious if he was caught then just being in the garden."
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"I don't like accusing people! I think most people here are good guys," Zayne explained anxiously.
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"Most..." despite the situation, Florsy is able to give a small smile at that. "Innocent until proving guilty... as the saying goes. There's nothing proving that I wasn't the one who planted the poisoned joint either... so like how I'm trusting you... you will trust me... as we... must everyone else..."

Florsy's smile falters for a bit.

"Do you trust me Zayne?"
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"Yeah, of course," Zayne replied bemusedly. "You might do it in your own way, and I dunno if it's the right way, but you try to help people! So you're a good person."
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Florsy holds her hand to her heart and closes her eyes.

"There's... been things I haven't been able to say, things I've had to stay quiet about... because, I worried that if I said them... people wouldn't trust me... that people would accuse me of lying, of deceiving. But... if through you, then I am confident, that no matter what I say, it will not be misconstrued. So..."

Florsy takes a deep breath and opens her eyes.

"The poisonous plants were planted by me. I became paranoid... I wanted a method of self-defence. I poisoned several blunts, just in case I needed to suss out someone trying to steal things or being in places they weren't supposed to be. The dosage in those blunts were not lethal, just enough to where whoever tried to use it could be identified. But... I noticed that someone had taken them, that my blunts had gone missing. Around the same time, the plants had been sealed off by the automatic system."

Florsy looks genuinely scared for what everyone will do, but presses on.

"Someone besides me has the poison now... and I believe they were mixed in with the tea I served everyone too. One blunt is not lethal, but if one were to use several, or directly mix in the poison from the plant with the tea... Of course, the poison was never meant to kill anyone, so I always make sure to have an antidote on me, just in case.

Believe me in that, I was not the one to poison Lou. I deeply regret what I have done, in my mistrust of everyone is what put me in this mess. If you so think I deserve to die for this... then I will reluctantly accept. But if you are willing to forgive me, to give me a chance, then I promise to trust all of you like I do Zayne. I will be open about everything I do from now on... I always wanted to use my plants just to help people. But I have terribly failed that today. From here on, I shall never repeat this mistake."
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"I can't believe you tried to poison people with weed," Lilith said as she pinched the bridge of her nose. "That... that's so stupid, even if it was intended to, um, be non-lethal... This is so stupid..."
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"Yeah, I, uh... don't even know where to go from here," Cake sighed again. "So doesn't that mean pretty much anybody could have taken the blunt?"
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"Thank you... for trusting in me Cake," Florsy smiles.

"Yes, anyone could have taken it. No one besides myself or Zayne could have known it was poisonous, unless someone is hiding their medicinal knowledge."
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Deciding that there was nothing more to be said about Lou, the group decided to discuss something else:

What is Preston's side of the story? What value does he provide for the group?

Is there anything weird about Zayne worth mentioning? What value does he provide?

Is there any reason to suspect Vera of wrong-doing? What value does she provide?
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"Well, Zayne's pharmaceuticals are certainly of value," Florsy chimes in. "He may be a bit naive, but he means the best an can even cure your poison... I hope. If there's anything weird to discuss, maybe his sleeping outside his room? I doubt it, he saw Rover and Griffin, who would've said if they saw anything weird."

She doesn't say anything about Preston or Vera.
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"Zayne could be lobotomized and I would still argue for him over Florsythia. Poisoning something you expect to be stolen and consumed is attempted murder." Hubert elucidated. "We'll all be safer with her dead. I'd say the only downsides to dropping the prisoners would be the loss of Lou, everyone else either serves us no purpose or is an actual liability."

"Meanwhile, the rich side has Zayne, an experienced pharmacist, and three more innocents. I think the choice here is obvious."
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"What the hell is this guy's problem... seriously," Florsy mutters under her breath. "Does he have a stick up his ass, is he incapable of empathy... I didn't even expect it to be stolen, no one else besides Zayne would have known about it being poisonous."
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"Hold your horses there, Hubby," Griffin said, raising a finger. "Didn't Preston frame Dante oh so long ago? For something as silly as a haircut? A man like that who is willing to put a man away for life, just for a temporary mistake? I wouldn't put it past him to break eventually. Doesn't sound so innocent to me."

Griffin gave a glance at Preston.

"Sounds like Dante could be the innocent one to me, here. Not to mention...we still haven't cleared up the Carmilla situation."

He then moved his glance over to Florsy.

"There's not much going for Florsy though, I'll give ya that!"
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"You're an idiot." Hubert explained. "For both cases you've presented, it's two on one. Carmilla and Lilith's word against Zarmilla's, and mine and Preston's word against Dante's. You have no evidence or reasoning to side with the prisoners."

"And quit lying already. You just said the poisoned blunts were to suss out thieves."
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"You're an idiot." Hubert explained. "For both cases you've presented, it's two on one. Carmilla and Lilith's word against Zarmilla's, and mine and Preston's word against Dante's. You have no evidence or reasoning to side with the prisoners."

"And quit lying already. You just said the poisoned blunts were to suss out thieves."


"Why would I trust your word?" Griffin asked, tilting his head. "And if we're talking about Lilith...isn't she pretty taken with Dante? Oh, and she has a history with you too, right? Maybe we should ask her for her opinion."
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"You're an idiot." Hubert explained. "For both cases you've presented, it's two on one. Carmilla and Lilith's word against Zarmilla's, and mine and Preston's word against Dante's. You have no evidence or reasoning to side with the prisoners."

"And quit lying already. You just said the poisoned blunts were to suss out thieves."


"Yes... to leave a physical mark, but never to kill them. Just look a Lou. After everything I have put forward, after all my attempt to be upfront, no matter how much suspicion weighs on me... and you still accuse me of lying. Why... why are you so cruel?"
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"Zayne could be lobotomized and I would still argue for him over Florsythia. Poisoning something you expect to be stolen and consumed is attempted murder." Hubert elucidated. "We'll all be safer with her dead. I'd say the only downsides to dropping the prisoners would be the loss of Lou, everyone else either serves us no purpose or is an actual liability."

"Meanwhile, the rich side has Zayne, an experienced pharmacist, and three more innocents. I think the choice here is obvious."

"Are you implying that Dante's ability to provide quality hair care is of no use in our situation? I think we should all consider of our personal hygiene in this current predicament."
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"Why would I trust your word?" Griffin asked, tilting his head. "And if we're talking about Lilith...isn't she pretty taken with Dante? Oh, and she has a history with you too, right? Maybe we should ask her for her opinion."

"Because why the hell would I falsely convict someone who has nothing to do with me?" he answered. "And if you trust every convict who says they're innocent, you're gonna have a real fit if you ever visit a prison."
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"Why would I trust your word?" Griffin asked, tilting his head. "And if we're talking about Lilith...isn't she pretty taken with Dante? Oh, and she has a history with you too, right? Maybe we should ask her for her opinion."

"Because why the hell would I falsely convict someone who has nothing to do with me?" he answered. "And if you trust every convict who says they're innocent, you're gonna have a real fit if you ever visit a prison."


"Money? Fame? Status? I can think of plenty of reasons," Griffin nodded. "Either way, like I said, I wanna hear what Lilith has to say! If I recall correctly...she said something like this."

Griffin steaded himself, raising his voice to mock Lilith's.

"I've been in prison for, uh, about four or so years. I didn't do it though. That fucking crooked attorney!"

He relaxed.

"Haha! That's two voices against you, too! Dante and Lilith! Hey, maybe it should be you who's up there!"

Griffin almost kneeled over from laughing, but he composed himself.

"A-Anyways, I just wanna hear what Lilith has to say about Dante and you, that's all! Cause based off of that, Preston might have no value to us at all!"
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"Why would I trust your word?" Griffin asked, tilting his head. "And if we're talking about Lilith...isn't she pretty taken with Dante? Oh, and she has a history with you too, right? Maybe we should ask her for her opinion."

"Because why the hell would I falsely convict someone who has nothing to do with me?" he answered. "And if you trust every convict who says they're innocent, you're gonna have a real fit if you ever visit a prison."


"Because you get paid more if you win. And considering how you've been up to this point, you're more than cruel and cowardly to do something like that."
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"H-Hey! I do not sound like that!" Lilith screeched. "And, anyway, Dante's no killer. I know I'm asking for, um, a lot of trust here... and it does conflict, well, a lot with wanting to save... to save Carmilla, but... Dante may be crazy in the head, but he's not a murderer. He doesn't have that in him. I mean, come on, Hubert's an asshole."
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"Like I've previously stated, saving the affluent group seems to the best option but others have already gone over that so I won't dwell on that," Kent elucidated taking a quick puff from his ever-present cigar, "As for the situation regarding Preston, I believe that his value is completely irrelevant. Sure, he may have framed someone over a bad haircut which surprisingly isn't even that shocking considering his character. However, I'm not sure whether has the influence required to pull something like that off. And, if he is guilty, it doesn't change the fact that the other people he is trapped with, which includes Zayne who we may need to survive if we want to live, are far more trustworthy than the people in the other group."

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"Your logic is inconsistent." he answered, glaring at Griffin. "If you believe Lilith when she says she's innocent, then you should also believe her when she says she knows the real Carmilla. Your reasoning sets the prisoner group at two potentially dangerous criminals and the rich group at only one."

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"Because you get paid more if you win. And considering how you've been up to this point, you're more than cruel and cowardly to do something like that."

"Watching police dramas while high isn't legal reference." Hubert said. "There's no such thing as a bonus per conviction in [This Great Country]."
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