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"Like I've previously stated, saving the affluent group seems to the best option but others have already gone over that so I won't dwell on that," Kent elucidated taking a quick puff from his ever-present cigar, "As for the situation regarding Preston, I believe that his value is completely irrelevant. Sure, he may have framed someone over a bad haircut which surprisingly isn't even that shocking considering his character. However, I'm not sure whether has the influence required to pull something like that off. And, if he is guilty, it doesn't change the fact that the other people he is trapped with, which includes Zayne who we may need to survive if we want to live, are far more trustworthy than the people in the other group."


Vera nods, nods and nods. Very vigorously. In fact, she even adds a thumbs up for emphasis, with a stern look to really show how serious she is about her agreement with Kent.
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"Your logic is inconsistent." he answered, glaring at Griffin. "If you believe Lilith when she says she's innocent, then you should also believe her when she says she knows the real Carmilla. Your reasoning sets the prisoner group at two potentially dangerous criminals and the rich group at only one."



"Hmm? But you're putting your trust in Lilith when it comes to Carmilla! So then shouldn't you believe her when she says Dante isn't a murderer? I was just using your logic."

Griffin stood there, looking at Lilith.

"I mean, she just said it! Not only is Dante not a murderer, but you're also crooked and a liar. So if you were using her word as truth, then I should believe those things about Dante and you, too."

He stared at the two Carmilla's.

"Besides, I already hashed it out earlier with Lilith. It's not that I don't believe her completely! We just gotta make sure who the real Carmilla is."
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"Your logic is inconsistent." he answered, glaring at Griffin. "If you believe Lilith when she says she's innocent, then you should also believe her when she says she knows the real Carmilla. Your reasoning sets the prisoner group at two potentially dangerous criminals and the rich group at only one."

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"Because you get paid more if you win. And considering how you've been up to this point, you're more than cruel and cowardly to do something like that."

"Watching police dramas while high isn't legal reference." Hubert said. "There's no such thing as a bonus per conviction in [This Great Country]."


"Oh, so you don't even do it for the money, you just like hurting people." Florsy clicks her tongue.

"Why isn't this guy in here? And I'm pretty sure at this point, if any of us promised to harm him should we go free, we would instantly be let go..."
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"Hmm? But you're putting your trust in Lilith when it comes to Carmilla! So then shouldn't you believe her when she says Dante isn't a murderer? I was just using your logic."

Griffin stood there, looking at Lilith.

"I mean, she just said it! Not only is Dante not a murderer, but you're also crooked and a liar. So if you were using her word as truth, then I should believe those things about Dante and you, too."

He stared at the two Carmilla's.

"Besides, I already hashed it out earlier with Lilith. It's not that I don't believe her completely! We just gotta make sure who the real Carmilla is."

"I've given my reasons for believing Lilith on Carmilla: she gains nothing from lying about that, unlike how she gains from lying about her conviction. You've given no reason for trusting one Carmilla over the other." Hubert answered. "Besides, we have several other reasons to disbelieve Zarmilla. Her story is trash, for starters."

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"Oh, so you don't even do it for the money, you just like hurting people." Florsy clicks her tongue.

"Why isn't this guy in here? And I'm pretty sure at this point, if any of us promised to harm him should we go free, we would instantly be let go..."

"You practiced medicine without a license planted several poisonous plants booby trapped a blunt that made Lou cough up blood and I'm the one who likes hurting people?"
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Lilith tugged on her shirt a bit. "Well, he's got a point there..."
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"Hmm? But you're putting your trust in Lilith when it comes to Carmilla! So then shouldn't you believe her when she says Dante isn't a murderer? I was just using your logic."

Griffin stood there, looking at Lilith.

"I mean, she just said it! Not only is Dante not a murderer, but you're also crooked and a liar. So if you were using her word as truth, then I should believe those things about Dante and you, too."

He stared at the two Carmilla's.

"Besides, I already hashed it out earlier with Lilith. It's not that I don't believe her completely! We just gotta make sure who the real Carmilla is."

"I've given my reasons for believing Lilith on Carmilla: she gains nothing from lying about that, unlike how she gains from lying about her conviction. You've given no reason for trusting one Carmilla over the other." Hubert answered. "Besides, we have several other reasons to disbelieve Zarmilla. Her story is trash, for starters."

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"Oh, so you don't even do it for the money, you just like hurting people." Florsy clicks her tongue.

"Why isn't this guy in here? And I'm pretty sure at this point, if any of us promised to harm him should we go free, we would instantly be let go..."

"You practiced medicine without a license planted several poisonous plants booby trapped a blunt that made Lou cough up blood and I'm the one who likes hurting people?"


"Yes. I deeply regret what has happened, and did not want any harm. Stop trying to twist things for your own benefit."

Florsy faces everyone else.

"Do you see how he's like? You don't need me to tell you, his opinion isn't even worth a grain of salt."
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"Well, I hate the guy, like, a lot, but he's kinda making some legitimate arguments," Lilith admitted. "So, um... yeah."
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"...Woah, Florsy, neither is yours. I mean, you're up there, aren't you?" Griffin said, tilting his head. "You have more to gain than any of us down here. Cause if we go along with Hubby and vote for the prisoners to drop, that's it for ya."

Griffin shrugged.

"Anyways, this conversation won't go anywhere like this, will it? As for why I trust that the prisoner Carmilla more...I don't know. Actually, I know the rich Carmilla being the real one is more likely, and probably the answer. I just think it'd be more fun if that weren't the case, you know? Does that work for a reason?"
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"No, that's a fucking weird reason."
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"Aww..." Griffin pouted.
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"Your logic is stupid and so are you." Hubert elucidated.
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"Your logic is stupid and so are you." Hubert elucidated.


"Well, that's rude..!" Griffin said, pouting even more. "You know what? As it so happens, I actually know something about the prisoners you know!"
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"What? What is it?" Hubert asked, impatient. Rude. "What, pray tell, is this so important thing you know? Why don't you share with us?"
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"What? What is it?" Hubert asked, impatient. Rude. "What, pray tell, is this so important thing you know? Why don't you share with us?"


"Oh, haha, I was just kidding. Got ya! I just didn't like you callin' me names."

Griffin stifled a laugh.

"Anyways...what was the question again? What value do Zayne, Preston, and Vera bring, right? And what they did? Haha, we really went off-topic there!"
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"Ugh, this is just stupid!" Zarmilla shouted, "This whole game is rigged. What the hell else was gonna happen if you put four prisoners on one side and four complete angels on the other? What kinda data is Val even trying to get here? They coulda just watched the news for thirty seconds and gotten the exact same conclusions! I guarantee if Zayne turned out to be a registered sex offender, y'all would still drop us."
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"I- I mean, even if Zayne turned out to be a bad person, he could still save us. He's a real smart guy. Florsy may have poisoned us unintentionally, but, even so, that's dangerous. What if she does something like that again if she gets out? Isn't that kinda stuff what she lost her license for in the first place?" Zakuro said nervously.
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"See? That's what I'm saying," Zarmilla replied, throwing her hands in the air. "What, pray tell, would make any of you change your mind? I'm beginning to suspect the answer is nothing, so what specifically makes our lives worthless to you? Why don't you just humor me? I'm on death's row as it is."
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"See? That's what I'm saying," Zarmilla replied, throwing her hands in the air. "What, pray tell, would make any of you change your mind? I'm beginning to suspect the answer is nothing, so what specifically makes our lives worthless to you? Why don't you just humor me? I'm on death's row as it is."


"Well, everyone thinks your story is trash. Florsy is dangerous. Lou is apparently a no-good-thief. And Hubby over there is convinced Dante is a killer."

Griffin tilted his head. "You know, saying it out loud again, you guys look pretty unattractive to save."
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"See? That's what I'm saying," Zarmilla replied, throwing her hands in the air. "What, pray tell, would make any of you change your mind? I'm beginning to suspect the answer is nothing, so what specifically makes our lives worthless to you? Why don't you just humor me? I'm on death's row as it is."

"I wouldn't be too quick on the trigger there missy, I cant say about the rest of this lot, but truth be told somthing dont sit right with me right now, my gut's telling me the opposite and quite frankly im only even alive in this here ship to make this decision cause of this gut.

"Honestly if this was just that preston boy id had already pressed the button and be done with it, that there Zayne seems like he'd survive a drop with the lions better then well be without a cure to that poison and I ain't fully convinced he didn't have a hand in it. that vera girl seems like the type to do all it takes to save her own hyde, as for which one of ya is the imposter, well missy the evidence dont look too good for you but if nothing else as a fellow stew lover, I dont think ya seem too bad.

thats just my own feeling though, and cant say i'd really blame the others going with them folk over yall.

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"See? That's what I'm saying," Zarmilla replied, throwing her hands in the air. "What, pray tell, would make any of you change your mind? I'm beginning to suspect the answer is nothing, so what specifically makes our lives worthless to you? Why don't you just humor me? I'm on death's row as it is."


"Look, I don't really care about the character of any of you guys. If you are an identity thief, what's it to me? I went to jail for stealing, so I can't judge what anyone else has done. It's about the best way to get the antidote, and about not getting poisoned again!"
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"See? That's what I'm saying," Zarmilla replied, throwing her hands in the air. "What, pray tell, would make any of you change your mind? I'm beginning to suspect the answer is nothing, so what specifically makes our lives worthless to you? Why don't you just humor me? I'm on death's row as it is."


"Look, I don't really care about the character of any of you guys. If you are an identity thief, what's it to me? I went to jail for stealing, so I can't judge what anyone else has done. It's about the best way to get the antidote, and about not getting poisoned again!"

"Oh I don't think you'll have to worry about that again. The plants are locked behind the containment doors and believe me, it doesn't look like they'll open easily for the time being."
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"As smart as Zayne is supposed to be, I'm afraid I don't buy much of it." Rover sighs. "Is he even an adult? What the hell is with that damn collar? Can he really even save us like the stoner is saying?"

"Too many damn questions, and I don't know a thing about this kid! Has he proven to anyone that he actually knows what he's doing, or is it all big talk and lion wrestling?"

"Vera doesn't seem to offer us much of anything other than being a whiny little baby. If you've got a skill that doesn't involve sitting on your ass and having everything in your life handed to you, you'd best speak up! As it stands I see no point in keeping her around." Rover crosses his arms and continues.

"Preston, oh Preston. Throwing your words at us like a monkey throws its shit. How disgusting are we, exactly? Why the fuck do I want someone as uncooperative as Vera around?"

Rover turns to those left untrapped. "Listen, people. Put aside your felon-phobia for one goddamn second and think about the kind of situation we're in. This survival game is pretty damn real, and the rules said this goes off until only one of us are left. Who is to say that some niche skills or nimble fingers won't be the least bit useful? What the hell can a pompous jerk actually provide for the group? If we want any chance of breaking out of this place and get off this damned boat, how the hell will any of those four help us?" He says, gesturing to the trapped rich people.
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What the hell is with that damn collar?


"I told you, it was a present!" Zayne answered, as though that were the most important part of everything Rover had just said.
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"They may not be outright helpful, but they aren't harmful either. We're getting the chance to remove some dangerous people like Florsythia now, and I think we should take it." Hubert said, then smiled. "I can't see how letting her loose is a good idea, unless you're ready to take matters into your own hands regarding her."
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"They may not be outright helpful, but they aren't harmful either. We're getting the chance to remove some dangerous people like Florsythia now, and I think we should take it." Hubert said, then smiled. "I can't see how letting her loose is a good idea, unless you're ready to take matters into your own hands regarding her."

"I am." Rover says, without any hesitation. "If she's smart enough to pull what she just did, trying to trick all of us, then she's smart enough to know she can't pull shit like that again, otherwise it's her head."

"If there is this plant thief, and the stoner is innocent, then where's the harm in keeping her?" Rover asks. "And beyond that, who else is really dangerous, there?"

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"I told you, it was a present!" Zayne answered, as though that were the most important part of everything Rover had just said.

"...Right." Rover says, turning to face Zayne. "I'll concede, you can wear whatever you want, little guy."
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"Um, Zayne... do you think that you'd have any chance at fighting the lions down there?" Zakuro asked with uncertainty.
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"I am." Rover says, without any hesitation. "If she's smart enough to pull what she just did, trying to trick all of us, then she's smart enough to know she can't pull shit like that again, otherwise it's her head."

"If there is this plant thief, and the stoner is innocent, then where's the harm in keeping her?" Rover asks. "And beyond that, who else is really dangerous, there?"

"I'm not taking that. It could be her head, or she could dump poison in our entire food supply and have us all dead before noon." Hubert argued. "Besides, you have no argument against Zayne's ability. Burden of proof about him being a sham is on you, not him."
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"I am." Rover says, without any hesitation. "If she's smart enough to pull what she just did, trying to trick all of us, then she's smart enough to know she can't pull shit like that again, otherwise it's her head."

"If there is this plant thief, and the stoner is innocent, then where's the harm in keeping her?" Rover asks. "And beyond that, who else is really dangerous, there?"

"I'm not taking that. It could be her head, or she could dump poison in our entire food supply and have us all dead before noon." Hubert argued. "Besides, you have no argument against Zayne's ability. Burden of proof about him being a sham is on you, not him."

"How the fuck does that make any sense?" Rover spits out his words angrily. "Kid's making a positive claim of being smart, he's gotta prove it, doesn't he? Until he has why the hell should we believe anything he says?" Rover says, not knowing that he's not making much sense.

"Florsy can have her teeth kicked in for all I care. The others have value, while the three who aren't Zayne over there don't."
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"Um, Zayne... do you think that you'd have any chance at fighting the lions down there?" Zakuro asked with uncertainty.


"I could certainly try!" Zayne replied confidently. "...but there are quite a lot of them... I'd do my best, at least! Even if I go down fighting, it's not such a bad way to go."

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"How the fuck does that make any sense?" Rover spits out his words angrily. "Kid's making a positive claim of being smart, he's gotta prove it, doesn't he? Until he has why the hell should we believe anything he says?" Rover says, not knowing that he's not making much sense.

"Florsy can have her teeth kicked in for all I care. The others have value, while the three who aren't Zayne over there don't."


"Even if you're uncertain about me right now, haven't you heard my name before? I'm quite well-known in the industry. I mean, that's the reason Val even invited me in the first place!"
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"Even if you're uncertain about me right now, haven't you heard my name before? I'm quite well-known in the industry. I mean, that's the reason Val even invited me in the first place!"

Hubert gestured to Zayne, very smug. "We have a witness. Val didn't invite a bunch of nobodies, so we can infer he has something to his name. And he made this claim long before it would benefit him to lie about it."

"... Of course, I wouldn't expect any of you to know his name." he smiled. "I'm guessing it's not the sort of name famous amongst convicts."
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"Florsy can have her teeth kicked in for all I care. The others have value, while the three who aren't Zayne over there don't."

"What might I ask, is that value? How will a hairdresser and an identity thief help us in this situation?"
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"Even if you're uncertain about me right now, haven't you heard my name before? I'm quite well-known in the industry. I mean, that's the reason Val even invited me in the first place!"

"If I have, would I really be questioning you so much right now?" Rover asks, not waiting for an answer. "You don't hear much when you're locked in the slammer."

"Even if you are legit," Rover says, turning to Hubert again. "Who's to say you won't drug all our food and leave us for dead? Who's to say you're not dangerous with your knowledge?"

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"What might I ask, is that value? How will a hairdresser and an identity thief help us in this situation?"

"Can you pick a lock?" Rover asks the VP of [This Glorious Country]. "Dante seems much more suited to physical labour than either Vera or Preston, for starters. What value does anyone over there have, aside from Zayne?"
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"Even if you're uncertain about me right now, haven't you heard my name before? I'm quite well-known in the industry. I mean, that's the reason Val even invited me in the first place!"

"If I have, would I really be questioning you so much right now?" Rover asks, not waiting for an answer. "You don't hear much when you're locked in the slammer."

"Even if you are legit," Rover says, turning to Hubert again. "Who's to say you won't drug all our food and leave us for dead? Who's to say you're not dangerous with your knowledge?"

"I mean..." Cake interjected. "Couldn't Florsy technically do the same thing, but you said she wouldn't try to pull something like that? It kinda feels like you're grasping now..."
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"I mean..." Cake interjected. "Couldn't Florsy technically do the same thing, but you said she wouldn't try to pull something like that? It kinda feels like you're grasping now..."

"My point here is that if Hubert says she can, then Zayne can to."

"Wouldn't that put them at the same danger level?"
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"Zayne has done nothing to imply he would poison us, while Florsythia already has. Therefore, they are not on the same level, not at all."
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Hubert gestured to Zayne, very smug. "We have a witness. Val didn't invite a bunch of nobodies, so we can infer he has something to his name. And he made this claim long before it would benefit him to lie about it."

"... Of course, I wouldn't expect any of you to know his name." he smiled. "I'm guessing it's not the sort of name famous amongst convicts."

"You know by your very logic them prisoners ain't a bunch of nobodies either right? maybe its just this old mans intuition but Val likely grabbed these guys solely because he thought they were more then your average nobody."
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"I mean..." Cake interjected. "Couldn't Florsy technically do the same thing, but you said she wouldn't try to pull something like that? It kinda feels like you're grasping now..."

"My point here is that if Hubert says she can, then Zayne can to."

"Wouldn't that put them at the same danger level?"

"I dunno," Cake admitted with a shrug. "I imagine pretty much anyone here could do something awful to the rest of us if they really wanted to. Once you start going into what-ifs like that, it's kinda hard to know where to draw the line.

"For what it's worth, though, Zayne hasn't done anything to put us in danger yet."
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"Dante seems much more suited to physical labour than either Vera or Preston, for starters. What value does anyone over there have, aside from Zayne?"


"....Preston doesn't even know how to use a can opener." Dante muttered.
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"Can you pick a lock?" Rover asks the VP of [This Glorious Country]. "Dante seems much more suited to physical labour than either Vera or Preston, for starters. What value does anyone over there have, aside from Zayne?"

"Well, simply put, no one other than Zayne and maybe Lou has any inherent value," replied the Vice President,"I'm not sure how much physical labour we'll actually be doing and we have other people who can perform those tasks. Lou can help us in certain situations but if we are really in danger then we need Zayne. Honestly, neither option is that useful. However, I think rich side has slight edge because even Preston is less of a liability than that stoner. There's also the identity thief who isn't too bad but she's still a slight burden."
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