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(guys I'll make the accusation once everyone's up. I need to collect my thoughts on the theory too)
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"W-Well, about the letter," Ryuji started nervously. "I-I actually challenged Alchie to a chess match..and I asked her to meet me at the classroom at 1:30 AM..."


"W-wait..." started Arthur. "You were going to meet Alchie at what would become the room Karega's body discovered in less than three hours before it was discovered there? Isn't that... relevant? Why didn't you leave the soccer game with Alchie around that time? Also, isn't that about the same time that Jay and Karega were having their meeting in the art room?"
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"W-Well, about the letter," Ryuji started nervously. "I-I actually challenged Alchie to a chess match..and I asked her to meet me at the classroom at 1:30 AM..."


"W-wait..." started Arthur. "You were going to meet Alchie at what would become the room Karega's body discovered in less than three hours before it was discovered there? Isn't that... relevant? Why didn't you leave the soccer game with Alchie around that time? Also, isn't that about the same time that Jay and Karega were having their meeting in the art room?"


"W-well, we were playing soccer," Ryuji said. "I was too shy to ask her to go to the classroom..."
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"Wait. Wasn't Jay having a talk with Karega in the locked classroom? They were talking about the words that were on the blackboard at the time, weren't they? I don't know, I'm getting confused."
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"W-well, we were playing soccer," Ryuji said. "I was too shy to ask her to go to the classroom..."


"... Would you mind recounting, as accurately as possible, exactly what your note to Alchie said?" asked Arthur. "I didn't think it before, but it may explain some of Karega's actions this morning."
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"W-well, we were playing soccer," Ryuji said. "I was too shy to ask her to go to the classroom..."


"... Would you mind recounting, as accurately as possible, exactly what your note to Alchie said?" asked Arthur. "I didn't think it before, but it may explain some of Karega's actions this morning."


"U-Uhh," Ryuji said, his face turning bright red once again. "I-it's nothing, it literally just says let's meet up at 1:30 AM in the classroom, b-but word for word?"

Ryuji buried his face in his hands as he mumbled the letter out to the group.

"I don't want to leave things the way they were...please meet me in the classroom at 1:30 AM."

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Solomon raised an eyebrow curiously. "Why so red, Ryuji? It's not like it's a big deal or anything. Unless..." He chuckled. "You have a crush on Alchie, don't you?"
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"I don't want to leave things the way they were...please meet me in the classroom at 1:30 AM."


"Uh..." hesitated Arthur. Clearly this wasn't what he expected. He recovered quickly, though. "What I'm getting at is this-- what if this letter were read outside of the... context... you and Alchie have? Could this note have been used by either Jay or Karega to get the other one in the classroom at 1:30? Or what if the killer used your note to get Jay and Karega into the classroom for their own ends?"
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Solomon raised an eyebrow curiously. "Why so red, Ryuji? It's not like it's a big deal or anything. Unless..." He chuckled. "You have a crush on Alchie, don't you?"


"N-no!" Ryuji said. "B-but it sounds like a really corny letter, doesn't it?! My social anxiety can't take this..! Auuugh! How can I consider myself a master of the creative arts if I can't even write an effective challenge letter..?"

Ryuji sighed.

"B-besides I already have someone back home!" Ryuji snapped. "It was an honest to God, challenge letter against two master Chess players! When I started theater I played a prodigal chess player who lost only because his family paid out his opponents to lose! And then the boy inspired others by starting to play chess straight, and beating the masters on his own terms!"

Ryuji smirked. "Truly an inspiration. I thought I could channel some of that inspiration into a chess game with Alchie...surely, if I could gain the knowledge and skill to best Alchie in a chess game, I can truly consider myself applicable to all of the performing arts."

Ryuji then realized his character change, and returned to normal, "b-but it doesn't matter!"
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Solomon nodded at Arthur's proposal. "Interesting. You really are a mystery author. But! I have a counter proposal. What if....Karega used this note to lure in Jay into the classroom?"
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"I don't want to leave things the way they were...please meet me in the classroom at 1:30 AM."


"Uh..." hesitated Arthur. Clearly this wasn't what he expected. He recovered quickly, though. "What I'm getting at is this-- what if this letter were read outside of the... context... you and Alchie have? Could this note have been used by either Jay or Karega to get the other one in the classroom at 1:30? Or what if the killer used your note to get Jay and Karega into the classroom for their own ends?"


"M-maybe," Ryuji said. "B-but, the way I phrased it would assume something happened between the killer and Karega or Jay. Karega hasn't really talked to anyone, and I don't know where Jay has been for the past hours, a-and I can't really link the letter with Karega's actions before 1:30 AM either."
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Solomon rolled his eyes. "Did you already forget, Ryuji? Karega did talk with someone. Jay. In the locked classroom. See where I'm getting at here?"
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Solomon nodded at Arthur's proposal. "Interesting. You really are a mystery author. But! I have a counter proposal. What if....Karega used this note to lure in Jay into the classroom?"


"E-Except the timeline doesn't link up again," Ryuji pointed out. "Jay said that he talked to Karega around midnight, which is way before the 1:30 AM that I had written on my letter."

[Going to sleep so won't post until like 1 PM EST (slept at 3:30 AM orz)]

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Solomon rolled his eyes. "Did you already forget, Ryuji? Karega did talk with someone. Jay. In the locked classroom. See where I'm getting at here?"


"You're saying that Karega lured Jay to the classroom to attempt to murder him, I would guess? That sounds... plausible." Arthur conceded. "Vice-versa is also plausible as well. Jay, does any of this ring a bell to you?"
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"It's definitely possible that Jay was lured to the classroom, but can Jay play chess? Because otherwise the chess invitation letter wouldn't make much sense."
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"Didn't you hear the contents of the letter? The way it's worded could easily be made to look like a different kind of letter. It doesn't mention anything about the chess match directly."
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"It's definitely possible that Jay was lured to the classroom, but can Jay play chess? Because otherwise the chess invitation letter wouldn't make much sense."


"I don't think that's true," said Arthur. "The contents of the letter were as follows, almost exactly (at least according to Ryuji)."

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"I don't want to leave things the way they were...please meet me in the classroom at 1:30 AM."


"This doesn't directly mention chess, so unless you knew beforehand (which I don't think Jay would have), then it's perfectly reasonable for him to go to the classroom none-the-wiser."
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"Jay wasn't the one being lured… Ryuji was."
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"Oh yeah, I see. I misremembered the contents of the letter, my bad."
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"Jay wasn't the one being lured… Ryuji was."

Solomon gave a look of surprise at Flo. "What do you mean?"
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"Think about it. Who was set to meet in the classroom? Ryuji and Alchie. Alchie never got to see the letter, and Ryuji wasn't meant to know it was stolen. If things went to the killer's plan, then Ryuji would've shown up only to get Ambushed. But what happened instead? Skittish Ryuji was still at the gym, and Jay was in the classroom just before the appointed time. They had to do something about Jay, he was messing up their plan."
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"So you're saying...Karega originally wanted to murder him instead of Jay?! You really dodged a bullet there, Ryuji."
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"Think about it. Who was set to meet in the classroom? Ryuji and Alchie. Alchie never got to see the letter, and Ryuji wasn't meant to know it was stolen. If things went to the killer's plan, then Ryuji would've shown up only to get Ambushed. But what happened instead? Skittish Ryuji was still at the gym, and Jay was in the classroom just before the appointed time. They had to do something about Jay, he was messing up their plan."


Arthur nodded thoughtfully. "But then, what brought Jay to the classroom to begin with? Mere chance?"
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"E-Except the timeline doesn't link up again," Ryuji pointed out. "Jay said that he talked to Karega around midnight, which is way before the 1:30 AM that I had written on my letter."


"I asked Jay about this twice, and he made it clear that he didn't actually remember the time when he was in that room. So it could well have been around 1:30. And... the letter may explain why Jay remembered 'words' so clearly."
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"I can say I haven't seen that letter nor known of its existence," Alchie said aloud. "For clarity's sake."

"Yeah, Jay could have been thinking about the wording on the letter..."

[Now I wish I hadn't slept for so long, seeing everything that happened.]
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Solomon sighed at SiRReN's accusation. "So you think I did it? Sorry, but I'm a bit confused. How was I obsessed with the basement more than anyone else? Also, can you please explain to me how I'm the only one without someone to corroborate my alibi? I want to understand your reasoning first before I make a proper rebuttal."

He took a deep breath. "Also, the black paint. I'm pretty sure I didn't see a drop of black paint in the crime scene. This theory about hiding in the dark with it is interesting too, but...none of us have any black paint on us. So how did the killer wash it off when the showers weren't working?"


SiRReN pursed her lips at Solomon. "I'm not saying you did it, but here's where everyone was around the time the bell rang:

Bell rings at about 04:00

Ryuji, Alchie, Cesar, and Flo are still at the soccer pitch playing a new game
Me, Van, and Subaru are outside the classroom door
Matt and Charlie are near the cafeteria having been listening in on me, Van, and Subaru
Sayako, Arthur, Sakura, and Crimson are in their rooms, verified by the fact that when the bell rang they all met up in the dormatory hallway and went to the classroom together
Jay is in the kiln

That's 14 of us accounted for, unless Jay is lying about being in the kiln. Number 15 is Karega, who was dead in the classroom, and number 16 is you, who arrived at the classroom last. You arrived alone. It is not outside the realm of possibility that you are lying about being in your room. You've been going to the basement a lot, fiddling with the pipes. It doesn't sound odd to me that if, when you tried to take a shower at 2am and found that the water wasn't working, you went to the basement to check out why it wasn't working.

This is all stringent on the idea that Jay isn't lying," she iterated again. "But if Jay really did hear footsteps outside the kiln when the bell rang at 04:00, it could only have been you."

SiRReN listened to everything that was going on and nodded. "That might explain why Karega looked spaced out when she came to the soccer pitch. If she was expecting Ryuji to be at the classroom at 01:30am and planned to kill him, him not showing up derailed her plans as well. That may be why she came to the soccer pitch at all."
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"So the letter was definitely stolen. Someone had to have read the letter then, which is probably Slezak, right? Or Karega herself."
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"Maybe that's why Karega enquired about the time when we saw her in the gym? She expected Ryuji to be at the classroom..." Alchie said. "Is there any way we could find the letter, or do you think it's already been disposed? The location of the letter may help us out here."
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"Yes, thanks Alchie for confirming. Karega or someone stole that letter and wanted to kill Ryuji. It seems they couldn't kill Jay as that would mean they couldn't pin the blame on Alchie. So once again, it boils down to what happened with Jay…"

Flo sighed before pointing out Cox.

"As much as I hate myself for saying this, we don't have a reason for suspecting Cox yet. He says he was in his room the whole time, and considering not even Matt or Charlie saw him, it's safe to say he was probably exactly where he was at…"
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"The black paint thing would let him move about freely though, right?" Sakura said. "Assuming that really happened. Plus Charlie did smell paint, which was probably the painted person lying low in the darkness while they ran to the classroom." It was a point that someone had mentioned before, but it seemed relevant again now.

"And even if you want to say Sol was in his room, I currently can't see any flaws with SiRRen's logic... So I guess we do need to see if Jay knows anything. Though, amnesia and all that... This might not lead anywhere."
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Alchie shook her head, looking distraught. "Don't thank me. It's the least I could do, seeing how useless I'm being now."

"But if they wanted to pin the blame on me, there's a slight problem, isn't there? Arthur saw Ryuji putting the letter, but Karega or the killer couldn't have known that. So, if they took the letter, how were they planning on making it known that it was addressed to me? Also, was my name written on it? Otherwise, it could have been a letter from somebody to anyone else." Alchie took in a deep breath. "I hope that made some sense."
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"It does sound like the killer expected the letter to be found." Sakura said. "If it formed such a big part of their plan like that. I wonder what happened to it? I'd have recognised it if I saw it - Ryuji wanted to use some of my paper to make the letter, seeing as how we don't have much else anywhere."
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"Ohhhhh," Flo hit herself with her binder.

"Cox… Cox didn't do it. The Monokuma file said 3 am. Karega must have died soon after she entered the gym. And right after the lights went out. Cox wasn't spotted anywhere at the time. If he already had the black paint, someone would have noticed. After all, that would be weird… even for Cox. Please stop making me defend Cox…"

"With the letter, I'm guessing they burned it or shredded it with that papercutter once Jay ruined their plan. Otherwise, they could just have claimed to have 'conveniently' found it lying about or something."
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"A lot of this was clearly set up in advance." Sakura said. "So Solomon, or anyone without an alibi really, could have been hiding in the gym, in one of the unused rooms."
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Alchie shook her head, looking distraught. "Don't thank me. It's the least I could do, seeing how useless I'm being now."

"But if they wanted to pin the blame on me, there's a slight problem, isn't there? Arthur saw Ryuji putting the letter, but Karega or the killer couldn't have known that. So, if they took the letter, how were they planning on making it known that it was addressed to me? Also, was my name written on it? Otherwise, it could have been a letter from somebody to anyone else." Alchie took in a deep breath. "I hope that made some sense."


"You know the 'A' on Karega's hand? Pretty sure that's how they intended to pin the blame on you. First you have the letter that was meant to be for you, then you have the A on Karega's hand - your name's initial. I think so, at least."
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"So who had the chance to take the letter? If the letter was destroyed, it couldn't have been Karega."

"And yup, A is my initial."
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"Yes, thank you Matty. So that proves my theory, the Ryuji was supposed to be the victim but Jay got in the way. That means they had the classroom set up before Jay even walked in. They must've had paint in there too!"
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"So they had the paint in the classroom. What exactly does that tell us?"
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"Okay, so... How about this? I've been thinking about the locked room some more." Sakura said. "The door was locked when Subaru went there, so the key was probably on the inside, with the killer. No-one could get in, but the killer couldn't get out. The killer is covered in blackish paint in order to hide. Later, at 4, Van breaks the door down while SiRRen and Subaru stand by, and the killer runs out using this chance. Matt and Charlie show up a few seconds later, and Charlie smells paint - she smells the painted killer running off to clean up, and the smell is gone once she reaches the crime scene, because the killer has gone. The killer likely took the key with them to hide it too, which is why the keyhole now had light coming out from it. After all, the door stays locked when you remove the key, as long as you don't open the door from that side."
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