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Arthur mused. "I'm confused-- I think I'd like to clarify something. We seem to be working under the assumption that Jay was the only person to have read the note-- that he stole the note from under Miss Elwyn's door, and that means only he and Ryuji knew its contents."

"But then, why was Karega in the classroom to begin with? Isn't the other assumption we're working under that Karega was trying to lure her victim there?" said Arthur. "Karega must have used the note, I think, to lure someone to the classroom."


"W-Well, no one else has spoken up about reading the note," Ryuji said. "Our assumption is Karega read the note, and then Jay out of curiosity pocketed it."

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"If that's the case, then Karega could have killed Jay, but she didn't. Maybe she was trying to convince Jay to kill whoever it was he invited to the classroom. Or maybe even Karega herself."


"Judging by the conversation Jay and Karega had, I-I find that highly unlikely. "

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Sooomon shakes his head. "But she told Jay that Monokuma had given her the Ultimate question and answer, whatever those were. So she WAS planning to kill. I...I'm just not sure why she didn't do it to Jay first. Maybe...killing Jay would get in the way of her actual target?"
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Sooomon shakes his head. "But she told Jay that Monokuma had given her the Ultimate question and answer, whatever those were. So she WAS planning to kill. I...I'm just not sure why she didn't do it to Jay first. Maybe...killing Jay would get in the way of her actual target?"


"S-she was expecting Jay though," Ryuji said. "Under the assumption that Jay was the one who wrote the letter. S-So, if she was planning a murder, she wouldn't have done it i-in a scenario where she expected two people to come. T-that's too risky."
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"If I may add...we can definitely cross out the possibility of Karega attempting to murder both Alchie and Ryuji..." She gestures towards Monokuma. "He said there was a one-person limit, right...?"

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"If I may add...we can definitely cross out the possibility of Karega attempting to murder both Alchie and Ryuji..." She gestures towards Monokuma. "He said there was a one-person limit, right...?"

(at least until chapter 3)


"W-Well, Arthur pointed out something interesting," Ryuji said. "What if Karega planned to die under the hand of whomever arrived at the classroom..?"
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"Hmmm. That question, the meaning of life. It clearly made her go all psycho. What do you think that answer was? If we can guess, maybe we can better predict her actions."
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"Hmmm. That question, the meaning of life. It clearly made her go all psycho. What do you think that answer was? If we can guess, maybe we can better predict her actions."


"I-I think the answer itself isn't important, just the fact that it made her go psycho," Ryuji said. "Psycho enough to want to die...remember how she k-keeps musing about death?"
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"So something along the lines of: death, death is the meaning of life. Your life only gains meaning when you die… I don't approve of it as a sociologist, but it's something Monokuma would do."
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"W-Well, Arthur pointed out something interesting," Ryuji said. "What if Karega planned to die under the hand of whomever arrived at the classroom..?"


"Well.." Arthur frowned. "Do you think it... could be possible..." Arthur paused. "This... sounds like it would be crazy. Let me try to sum it up. Again, relevance, but there's something that Monokuma said that's been bothering me."

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“Ahem. The one who kills someone first will be told the answer to the most important question in the world.”
"You seem to think that the killer would care about their own life after knowing the answer. Mankind has been trying to answer this question for years, with some people dedicating their entire lives to the search. Yet I'm the only one who knows it, and now one of you can too! Who cares if you might die after finding out the answer? Knowing the answer practically makes you the most enlightened person on the planet."


"You see," said Arthur. "We've been taking Karega's quotes to Jay as justification for her killing, or for him to become her accomplice in it. But what if that assumption's wrong? What if Karega, after learning whatever this 'answer' is that Monokuma was spouting, wanted someone to take her life? After she met Jay in the classroom, she tried to insist he murder her."
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"But...why didn't she just stab herself?" Solomon frowned. "Unless we can get that figured out, there's no way we can continue with this theory."
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"And then there's the question: how did she know the answer? She was the first victimthat we remember, so Monokuma could only have told the one who killed Karega… Or did she know the answer even?"
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"And then there's the question: how did she know the answer? She was the first victimthat we remember, so Monokuma could only have told the one who killed Karega… Or did she know the answer even?"


"Monokuma also said, before Karega was murdered, that he had let slip the answer." said Arthur. "... I think, at least. It feels like we've been in this courtroom for days."
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"According to what Mr. Slezak said, she was clearly mad, we wouldn't count on her actions making sense. Perhaps, after concluding Mr. Slezak wasn't able to kill her, Ms. Shinda knocked him out and hid him in the kiln, so he won't disclose her actions." Subaru suggested. "It would explain why she returned to the classroom at 2:00 AM, so that she can try her luck with Ms. Elywn."

"Problem is..." Subaru closed his eyes. "How does the basement fall into place?"
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"Yeah. I'm feeling pretty sleepy. Wasn't there supposed to be a time limit on this thing?" He yawns. "Anyway, if Monokuma gave away the Ultimate question beforehand to Karega, then it's possible the killer didn't get it until after the murder. Or maybe....they still haven't gotten it yet."
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"But...why didn't she just stab herself?" Solomon frowned. "Unless we can get that figured out, there's no way we can continue with this theory."


"Maybe there was a reason why she couldn't stab herself," Ryuji said. "Physically or mentally."

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"Thanks Arthur, yeah, we've been at this for ages. So Karega knew the answer, and it made her act all psycho. From the looks of the basement, we concluded she was trying to trap someone, above 60 kgs. Perhaps this was after she'd gotten Jay or someone to kill her. So an attempted kill from beyond the grave?"
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Solomon appeared to be in deep thought for a moment. When he spoke up, he had a frown on his face. "Actually...could this have actually been suicide? Maybe she locked herself in with the key and stabbed it. Which would mean...there was no one else in the room when the door had been broken down."
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"Yes, but that leaves too much unanswered. Why was she waiting for Jay then? Why did she set that stuff up at the basement? All of it had to have happened for a reason."
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Sol shrugged. "Like Subaru said, she was insane by that point. We don't exactly know what her thought process was like."
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"Psycho… psycho. And from the way the doors worked, she needed an accomplice right? It seemed like that's what she tried to do with Jay, but failed. So did she try with someone else?"
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"What if we used a lifeline on this?" Matt proposed. "It seems like getting anywhere will be really slow without a lifeline."
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Solomon raised an eyebrow. "What do you mean? Do you wish to have a rebuttal showdown on this point?"
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"What is there to debate about though? We're all as confused as each other. And I don't think any of these other lifelines will help at this point…"

Flo scrambled through her notes.

"Perhaps someone's been lying to us this whole time. Maybe if we can find a faulty alibi, that can lead to answers."
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"Not sure you can find a faulty alibi like that," Matt said. "You'd need to list everybody's alibis and one of them should look faulty if you compare them with the timeline and with what Karega did."
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"What is there to debate about though? We're all as confused as each other. And I don't think any of these other lifelines will help at this point…"

Flo scrambled through her notes.

"Perhaps someone's been lying to us this whole time. Maybe if we can find a faulty alibi, that can lead to answers."


"It must be the case that either the crime was committed by someone without an alibi, or someone who is lying about their alibi." said Arthur. "The time, I fear, is running short, so we need to put together plausible theories about what happened, otherwise we're dooming one of those innocent of a crime to die."
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"So let's see... Karega expected someone to go to the classroom, but she didn't know who. So Jay arrived, and she assumed he was the one who'd written the note. She didn't kill him, which means she wasn't planning to kill whoever went to the classroom." Sakura said. "I guess she didn't kill Jay because she wouldn't want to be found out at the class trial. She had a big plan set up - the basement trap makes that clear - and Jay running away didn't seem to entirely fit that plan. So she knocked him out and hid him to keep him out of the way. Then, presumably, she tried to continue with this big plan of hers."
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Arthur paused, thinking. He turned to the Technophile. "Matt, you said that you noticed Subaru and SiRReN's meeting near the classroom..." he started. "Did you notice the lumbering figure that Subaru mentions seeing just before that, that traveled from the gym to the classroom? Could such a figure have avoided your detection when you met with Charlie to exchange what you'd saw?"
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"If I may add, about Karega," Alchie interrupted. "She never knew the context of the letter, did she? She could have easily mistaken it to be one person planning to kill the other. After all, "I don't want to leave things the way they were" can be taken in a very different way. When Jay showed up, Karega could have thought he was planning to kill me - and that's why she wasn't worried about two people coming into the classroom. She may have wanted to join in and escape this place, but when Jay reacted the way he did... She decided to do it alone? I think the wording of the letter is important..."
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Arthur paused, thinking. He turned to the Technophile. "Matt, you said that you noticed Subaru and SiRReN's meeting near the classroom..." he started. "Did you notice the lumbering figure that Subaru mentions seeing just before that, that traveled from the gym to the classroom? Could such a figure have avoided your detection when you met with Charlie to exchange what you'd saw?"


"No, I didn't notice the limping figure. To be fair, they probably would have had to pass in front of us anyway, so they used the blackout's effect of making the end of hallway pitch black and hid there. I couldn't see the end of the hallway, so that's probably where they were."
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"You couldn't see the end of the hallway, but you could see the room on the side, the classroom?" Sakura asked for confirmation.
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"Yeah, I could see that part, as far as I recall. I could only see who came in or exited, but not where they came from."
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"Hmm... It's just, I'm still not sure how Subaru saw what he did when you couldn't." Sakura said. "Arthur brought this up. Subaru saw a figure walk unsteadily into the classroom... so how did you not see it, when you also had view of the classroom?"
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"Well.." Matt thought for a few seconds. "I'm certain I didn't see any figure, I don't know how I couldn't have seen that. Maybe it was Subaru's point of view that made him see it?"
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Crimson slams her fist onto her podium. "Alright, come on people, now is a good time to use that lifeline! I agree with Matt on this one...time will be up before we know it...!"
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"Okay, I got it. Let's use a rebuttal showdown on whether Karega died in the gym or in the classroom. I'll advocate for the classroom, does somebody else want to take the other option?"
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"I've always been an advocate for the gym." Sakura said. "Due to how orchestrated the crime scene looks - the blood, the pose, the red tears."
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"That's a good use for the rebuttal showdown. But how many votes do you need to make it a majority?" Alchie asked. "In any case, one vote from me."
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Solomon chuckled. "Well now, this is getting interesting. You have my vote here."
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"A majority, I think. But it's a 'Yes' from me, obviously."
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"Yeah, I think this one will help! So I'm voting for it as well."
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