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"Dang it dude! This is so complex!"

"Okay... If I had to guess... it sounds like Claudius might've died first, since nobody saw him since before six. He sealed himself up in the library apparently to use it as a bathroom. Because Akio found a sign like that on the room around six, right? But last night, Anissa saw him getting the really boring books for some reason... It was the sort of books that sound like he would've used for that sort of thing... So isn't that pretty suspiscious? Like he probably went last night, right? And yet that sign was on there today... Maybe it was just a lie or something?"

"And yeah, I wanna hear when the lead pipe was taken because yeah it shoulda been in the kitchen I think."
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"Dang it dude! This is so complex!"

"Okay... If I had to guess... it sounds like Claudius might've died first, since nobody saw him since before six. He sealed himself up in the library apparently to use it as a bathroom. Because Akio found a sign like that on the room around six, right? But last night, Anissa saw him getting the really boring books for some reason... It was the sort of books that sound like he would've used for that sort of thing... So isn't that pretty suspiscious? Like he probably went last night, right? And yet that sign was on there today... Maybe it was just a lie or something?"

"And yeah, I wanna hear when the lead pipe was taken because yeah it shoulda been in the kitchen I think."


"If nobody saw anyone taking the lead pipe then it should've been taken when everyone was sleeping, I believe. I don't think anyone at all can just waltz through people with a lead pipe out in the open."
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But last night, Anissa saw him getting the really boring books for some reason... It was the sort of books that sound like he would've used for that sort of thing... So isn't that pretty suspiscious? Like he probably went last night, right? And yet that sign was on there today... Maybe it was just a lie or something?"


Anissa replies, "Uhh... That's an i- interesting theory, but Claudius was definitely reading the books pretty intently. I guess he could have been f- faking, but I dunno..."

"I do agree that he might have been plotting something in there this morning, though..."
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"Oh okay! I'm sorry. I didn't know you saw him reading them. I figured no way Claud would read stuff like that, especially since he can be so... I don't know... really thick? What if when you saw him yesterday he was really reading those manga pages we found today in the books? I feel a little nosy figurin' stuff like that out, but I think that explains why there were manga pages in the other books, right? Maybe he was readin' since late last night, and didn't want to be caught..."
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"The most suspicious thing here is Kagayaki's knife, I think. Why's it washed?"

"I... used it to slice the vegetables for my breakfast," Kagayaki replied, her face tinged with a slight blush. "I am uncertain as to why it did not occur to me to use a normal knife. Perhaps my lack of rest since arriving here is beginning to affect my judgement..."

She coughed politely into her hand. "In any case, I agree that it seems likely Lord Vermillion was murdered at some point in the middle of the night. The sign on the library door was probably placed there by his killer to prevent us from discovering his body earlier."
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"Yeah, I g- guess that's possible... but it doesn't really help us much. I guess that would mean Claudius really w- wasn't doing anything, and just got... a- attacked randomly..."

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She coughed politely into her hand. "In any case, I agree that it seems likely Lord Vermillion was murdered at some point in the middle of the night. The sign on the library door was probably placed there by his killer to prevent us from discovering his body earlier."


"S- Sorry, but I don't think that's possible..." Anissa replies, "Silas saw Claudius in the kitchen after 6... so he must have been alive then..."

"B- But if the killer took the pipe out of the kitchen during the night... I wonder if they w- waited for him to come to the library a- and then attacked him... That would mean it was someone that no one saw before 7, but that would probably still be... a lot of people..."
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"Ah, you are correct, Lady Silke. My apologies, it must have slipped my mind."

She folded her arms. "How large were the plastic fragments in the library again? Were they angular? What color were they? Understanding more about them may assist in identifying what they originally were."
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"B- But if the killer took the pipe out of the kitchen during the night... I wonder if they w- waited for him to come to the library a- and then attacked him... That would mean it was someone that no one saw before 7, but that would probably still be... a lot of people..."


"I guess they could've set up in the library and waited? Nobody would've seen the killer then. But then the killer would have to know that Claudius would have gone to read books in the library."
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"I guess they could've set up in the library and waited? Nobody would've seen the killer then. But then the killer would have to know that Claudius would have gone to read books in the library."


"Claudius had been in the library a lot lately... He said something about mental improvement being a 'daily necessity,'" Anissa replies, "The killer might have just assumed he'd go there today too..."
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"Ah, you are correct, Lady Silke. My apologies, it must have slipped my mind."

She folded her arms. "How large were the plastic fragments in the library again? Were they angular? What color were they? Understanding more about them may assist in identifying what they originally were."

“THEY LOOKED LIKE SMALL FRAGMENTS OF GLASS, BUT WERE PLASTIC. THEY WERE TRANSPARENT.”
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“THEY LOOKED LIKE SMALL FRAGMENTS OF GLASS, BUT WERE PLASTIC. THEY WERE TRANSPARENT.”


"Could those have been one of the bottles of liquor in the lounge? M- Maybe one of those was the real murder weapon, and the pipe was j- just a decoy..." Anissa asks.

"Also, I don't know how important it was... but where did those manga pages even come from? That would have been pretty out of place in the library, e- especially since all the stuff there was from before 1950..."
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"MANGA EXISTED IN 1950."

The roomba whirred for a bit then seemed to remember something. "ALSO, IT MAY BE PERTINENT FOR YOU GUYS TO KNOW THAT THE KILLER WAS INFORMED OF THEIR ADVANTAGE BEFORE COMMITTING THE MURDER."
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“THEY LOOKED LIKE SMALL FRAGMENTS OF GLASS, BUT WERE PLASTIC. THEY WERE TRANSPARENT.”


"Could those have been one of the bottles of liquor in the lounge? M- Maybe one of those was the real murder weapon, and the pipe was j- just a decoy..." Anissa asks.

"Also, I don't know how important it was... but where did those manga pages even come from? That would have been pretty out of place in the library, e- especially since all the stuff there was from before 1950..."

"That reminds me..." Kagayaki frowned. "I do not mean to disrespect anyone, especially the recently deceased, but... during the first trial, Lord Vermillion seemed unaware of his own bracelet code. Why would that be? Was he unable to read it for some reason?"
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".....maybe Claudius couldn't read at all. I mean, think about it," Sachi stated, standing up quickly from her half laying down position on the podium. "That's why his NG code was something so insignificant. Wouldnt have made sense to give him some crazy elaborate one if he couldn't read it anyways. He would be reading the manga for the pictures and not the words, too, since usually you just have to focus on the pictures in a manga."

She laid her head back down. "Just a theory though. My theories are rarely ever right."
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"No that sounds right. He couldn't read the gauge on the air compressor either, so..."

"Wait do you know what that means... he didn't right the sign on the library, right? That proves it! He couldn't have written something so elaborate with such low knowledge of language! So we're on the right track with this! Hell yeah!"

"Hmm... Sachi your little vials weren't made of plastic, were they? Maybe the killer stole one to use it in their evil plot?"
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"O- Oh, good idea!" Anissa replies, "And if he couldn't read the sign on the door, then he would have walked on into the library without reading it. That m- means the killer could have waited there and been certain that he was the only one who'd go in..."

"Oh, and that explains why Claudius walked in on Silas while he was w- washing. He couldn't read the sign Silas put on the door!"
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"O- Oh, good idea!" Anissa replies, "And if he couldn't read the sign on the door, then he would have walked on into the library without reading it. That m- means the killer could have waited there and been certain that he was the only one who'd go in..."

"Oh, and that explains why Claudius walked in on Silas while he was w- washing. He couldn't read the sign Silas put on the door!"

"That would imply Lord Vermillion's killer was someone who knew he was illiterate. Is there anyone who would have that knowledge?"

Kagayaki tapped her elbow. "So the plastic was not from a vial, and probably not from a bottle... Could it have been the plate from the inside of the microwave?"
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"O- Oh, good idea!" Anissa replies, "And if he couldn't read the sign on the door, then he would have walked on into the library without reading it. That m- means the killer could have waited there and been certain that he was the only one who'd go in..."

"Oh, and that explains why Claudius walked in on Silas while he was w- washing. He couldn't read the sign Silas put on the door!"

"That would imply Lord Vermillion's killer was someone who knew he was illiterate. Is there anyone who would have that knowledge?"


"Well, it must've been someone who had that knowledge accidentally, since I doubt Claudius revealed such a thing normally."
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"Assuming it was the microwave door, how did it go all the way from there to the conservatory?" Anissa asks, "Unless that w- weird object was something else..."
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"Let's ask all the girls! Cosplayer seems like the kinda guy who'd want a harem! Ms. Crazy Chick, did you know about his reading thing?"
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"Also, there's the l- lead pipe that he was hit with... That was originally in the kitchen, I think. How'd it get to the library? Kagayaki and Silas were in the kitchen the whole time, and they d- didn't see anyone come in... E- Except Claudius... Silas, is it possible that Claudius could have taken the pipe when he came in?"

Silas shakes his head. "No, actually. Now that I think about it, he never left the doorway. He only closed the door after I chucked an apple at him."
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"Assuming it was the microwave door, how did it go all the way from there to the conservatory?" Anissa asks, "Unless that w- weird object was something else..."

"I imagine it could have been placed in the dumbwaiter and moved in that fashion. If the machine in the conservatory was not the microwave, where else could it have gone? Perhaps the killer used it to land the final blow on Lord Vermillion, then transported it to the conservatory to burn so the evidence of it being used as a weapon would be destroyed."
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"Ms. Crazy Chick, did you know about his reading thing?"


Anissa, apparently not at all fazed by Akio's nickname, replies, "We d- did talk a lot, but I didn't have a clue. He... didn't really talk about himself much..." Anissa sighs.
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"I don't m- mean to speak ill of the dead..." Anissa mumbles, "B- But is it possible that Dale k- killed Claudius?"

"I mean, he wasn't seen at all early in the morning, so he c- could have stolen Lyla's gun before everyone else woke up and then went to the kitchen and lounge to get stuff from there... and he really seems like the only one here with enough strength to carry a microwave, a lead pipe, and a pillow to the library at once... I think he's trained in using guns, so he could have probably used it effectively and maybe even known how to silence it... A- And when Silas finally saw him, he apparently looked pretty nervous... L- Like he had just killed someone..."

"I might be wrong... In fact, I'm probably wrong... but it m- might at least be worth considering..."
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Sachiko glared at Anissa whilst hugging Dale's jacket tightly against her. "Dale was NOT a murderer. H-he would NEVER hurt someone like that...never ever ever!! and besides that, I'm pretty confident the lead pipe wasn't even the murder weapon!"
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"BINGO BABAY! Nice going Anissa! Yeah the trap all goes back to him not knowing how to read!"

"Anyway... this microwave door thing doesn't make any damn sense to me..."

"I definitely think Dale is looking pretty suspicious, but..."

"Wait, Sachi why don't you think Claud was killed with the lead pipe? What else coulda even killed him? Just the poison and the revolver, right?"
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"There wasn't enough blood on the pipe to suggest it was used to bash Claudius's brains out. If anything, it just got blood on it from being near his body. And I'm serious, stop dissing on Dale. He doesn't deserve that....he would never kill someone here...." Sachi slipped his jacket back over her shoulders, holding it tight against her.
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"BINGO BABAY! Nice going Anissa! Yeah the trap all goes back to him not knowing how to read!"

"Anyway... this microwave door thing doesn't make any damn sense to me..."

"I definitely think Dale is looking pretty suspicious, but..."

"Wait, Sachi why don't you think Claud was killed with the lead pipe? What else coulda even killed him? Just the poison and the revolver, right?"

"The microwave could be a potential bludgeoning weapon, could it not? If it were used in that manner, the door could easily shatter in the process, leaving the plastic fragments found in the library."

The miko sighed. "I would prefer not to suspect Lord Valler myself, especially since it seems likely that whoever murdered Lord Vermillion was likely Lord Momo's killer as well... however, unless we can find proof of his innocence, we should keep the possibility in mind."
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"I h- hate to suspect him too... but there's too many v- victims to assume everyone's innocent. If you can think of someone else who had a good opportunity, I'd like to hear it. We don't have any solid e- evidence it was Dale anyway..."

"Also," Anissa remarks, "I don't think the pipe was the murder weapon either... but it looks like it was used to disguise the real murder weapon, so the killer would have needed to bring it anyway..."
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"Exactly. No solid evidence that Dale was the murderer. So he wasn't. Simple as that, no need to investigate it further...." Sachiko let out a sorrowful sigh, closing her eyes and rubbing at them harshly.

"that candlestick that was....i-in Dale.... could that have been used to kill Claudius, too? Like, maybe someone hit him with the base of it over and over?"
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"I do not recall seeing any signs of blood or damage to the candlestick base," Kagayaki answered. She sighed. "Also, it seems the microwave could not have been used to bludgeon Lord Vermillion, either. Perhaps we should take a step back and examine our assumptions once more.

"There were flat, transparent, plastic fragments found in the library. The most likely source of those is the microwave door; I cannot think of anything else that was both taken from its original location, and that would leave pieces of that nature.

"If the plastic fragments are in fact from the microwave door, that would mean the microwave was in the library at some point. However, the microwave's shape is inconsistent with Lord Vermillion's wounds and his murderer had a firearm anyway. Therefore, if the killer had no reason to bring the microwave, the natural assumption would be that Lord Vermillion himself brought it there.

"If the victim brought the microwave to the library, that raises several more questions. Why did he bring it, why was it damaged, and why was it removed from the scene of the crime? I am unsure about the first mystery, however, my only guess regarding the others would be that during the murder itself, something happened to the microwave that, if left as is, would incriminate the murderer, which would be why it was sent to the conservatory to be burned."

She looked around the room at the other students. "Are there any contradictions with what I have stated thus far?"
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"I guess it's possible that he was h- hit with the candlestick... b- but I kinda doubt it was taken out of the lounge. It seems like that would have been kinda out of the way too..."

Anissa sighs in resignation and mumbles, "Anyway, putting all that aside for now, there's still some stuff we don't understand about what happened to Claudius..."

"For one thing, there's the microwave. What was that used for? Maybe the killer could have put stuff in there for store it, but that's just a guess... Probably not true..."

"There's also the p- pillow. Was it really used as a silencer... or f- for something else... We didn't hear a gunshot, so the former seems pretty likely..."

"And f- finally, why was there a bullethole in the door? If the killer was waiting inside, then they would have needed to fire two bullets to cause that k- kinda damage... but why fire another shot?"

After Kagayaki speaks because I'm too lazy to go back to edit my post, Anissa replies, "I d- doubt Claudius took the microwave... If he did, why would he go back to the kitchen later on and run into Silas? He c- could have just gotten anything he needed along with the microwave, right?"
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"Then who would have had the chance to take the microwave into the library..?" Akio wondered. "If it's not Claudius, then it's really weird that the killer would take three weapons...but then again, the bastard knew about the special clause Monokuma gave, right? So then they probably just took all of that shit to confuse us!"
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"I mean, I really don't understand why anyone woulda brought the microwave in there like that."

"Maybe Dale was the one hit in the head with a microwave? Dude had a huge crater in his head after all. That's one of the last few things I can think of if the microwave broke on something..."
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"I mean, I really don't understand why anyone woulda brought the microwave in there like that."

"Maybe Dale was the one hit in the head with a microwave? Dude had a huge crater in his head after all. That's one of the last few things I can think of if the microwave broke on something..."


Akio tilted his head. "Maybe...but then someone had to have taken the microwave from the library, to the study, back to the conservatory. Unless Dale's body was moved, but that's even weirder..."
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"Hmm... you think the microwave woulda knocked Dale out? C'mon dude's got ironsides, man! He probably got his brains smashed in and didn't even care! Okay... I guess that doesn't make a ton of sense. We know Dale was still conscious at 7:45 because that's when Silas saw him, so Dale probably didn't get hurt until after that..."

"We do know somebody moved the gun and the microwave from the library and into the conservatory, though, since the remains of both were found there, but there's evidence of both being in the library. I also assume that the killer used a pillow to deafen the sound of themselves shooting the gun, which is why we found the feather in there and didn't hear the gun going off. They probably burnt that pillow in the conservatory as well, which implies the person who burnt all the stuff in the conservatory was the killer who killed Claud, right?"
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