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Way I see it, there's two major factors working against the town this game:
- There's only one mafioso so it's going to be hard to get tells from him/her
- Most players aren't revealed upon death (if Ted is in the game, that would be awesome since we'd know for sure whether or not we took the mafia out)
Unfortunately, even if Larry is in the game, we can't count on his information and I doubt it'll go long enough to confirm his accuracy ratio. Right now it seems like the best option for the town is to take as many shots as we can and kind of hope we got the mafioso.
If we're going to lynch, we have less than two hours to decide.
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Let's see if I can get this straight. There's four possible choices that we might know about:
1. No lynching and no Mafia kill (Very unlikely)
2. Lynching and no Mafia kill (Somewhat likely.)
3. No lynching and Mafia kill (Very unlikely.)
4. Lynching and Mafia kill (Common.)
This is like a 1/4th chance that one of these choices can happens during the first phrase (Day and Night combined).
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Pierre, until I posted this, I was just as likely a suspect as Monroe. Just wildly guessing isn't going to do us any good. Not like we have any other choice.
Fair point, if you have concrete evidence I'm absolutely fair game to hear it but until then I'll just leave my vote be. Day One is a nightmare as there's no evidence to go on or anything. So...wild guessing it is for me unless I hear an argument against it.
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Pierre wrote:
Day One is a logical nightmare, I don't see any way folks can get anything on solid grounds. I'll probably follow my previous path and vote for whoever engages least.
Wasn't this what you did in the last game? When you were scum?
And Day 1 can be bad for finding scum but you can get lucky and what I've found is that even if you lynch a townie, the information provided s invaluable as well
In short, fuck no-lynching
Anyway, sorry for the delay on my end
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JesusMonroe wrote:
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Day One is a logical nightmare, I don't see any way folks can get anything on solid grounds. I'll probably follow my previous path and vote for whoever engages least.
Wasn't this what you did in the last game? When you were scum?
And Day 1 can be bad for finding scum but you can get lucky and what I've found is that even if you lynch a townie, the information provided s invaluable as well
In short, fuck no-lynching
Anyway, sorry for the delay on my end
Sure was, my reasoning was I didn't like folks hiding in the shadows being easily overlooked and not engaging with the game.
Unless you can really find anything that would imply lynching someone inactive is of benefit to the Maf your implication that I'm scum this time because it's what I did last time is pretty meaningless.
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You don't like people lurking in the shadows, yet you, Lida, and Nego were scum last time. They were all non-inactives
Lynching inactives is a bad idea in general, unless it's a late phase and the suspect list is really dwindling down. Inactives provide no reads on town or scum leans, so it's a shot in the dark to lynch them and a poor move for town to make D1
Plus, why lynch me and not sumguy? Why lynch anyone when you were complaining how D1 is unfair a few posts before? If it's unfair, why are you taking the initiative and being the first to vote?
You're reaching. I don't care if this looks like an OMGUS but while writing this post, I convinced myself
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JesusMonroe wrote:
I wasn't implying you were scum. I was questioning why you, as town, would use the same strategy for lynching people that you used as scum. If you're town, it's a poor choice
You don't like people lurking in the shadows, yet you, Lida, and Nego were scum last time. They were all non-inactives
Lynching inactives is a bad idea in general, unless it's a late phase and the suspect list is really dwindling down. Inactives provide no reads on town or scum leans, so it's a shot in the dark to lynch them and a poor move for town to make D1
Plus, why lynch me and not sumguy? Why lynch anyone when you were complaining how D1 is unfair a few posts before? If it's unfair, why are you taking the initiative and being the first to vote?
You're reaching. I don't care if this looks like an OMGUS but while writing this post, I convinced myself
Vote: Pierre
You don't like people lurking in the shadows, yet you, Lida, and Nego were scum last time. They were all non-inactives
Lynching inactives is a bad idea in general, unless it's a late phase and the suspect list is really dwindling down. Inactives provide no reads on town or scum leans, so it's a shot in the dark to lynch them and a poor move for town to make D1
Plus, why lynch me and not sumguy? Why lynch anyone when you were complaining how D1 is unfair a few posts before? If it's unfair, why are you taking the initiative and being the first to vote?
You're reaching. I don't care if this looks like an OMGUS but while writing this post, I convinced myself
Vote: Pierre
Well I'll admit Sumguy was so inactive I blanked him and picked the first from the list I spotted as inactive and stopped checking the rest. I might have even adjusted it to him at some point (since voting for someone tends to force them to speak up and contribute) but then you voted for me so now I need to keep my vote on you for defence reasons.
As for why I'd use the same strategy? It's a valid town strategy on day one when there's little to go on. Weed out the people who don't chip in.
Worst Case Scenario: They are town members who don't contribute much to the discussion and therefore aren't helping (even if it's just a small comment to say "I'm thinking about something but don't have answers yet").
Best Case Scenario: You hit a Mafioso
Considering Day One is basically random this is as good as my reasoning gets. The Mafia's role is to masquerade as Townies anyway, you may say it was my strategy last time as a Maf but there's nothing to say I wouldn't have followed that plan anyway as a Townie. Besides I don't think we should be drawing so much from previous games anyway but believe what you will.
I figured I'd get the ball rolling is all, nothing personal but none of us have especially strong cases. I just want an active thread is all.
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Anyway, this is basically taking a shot in the dark...
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Sorry, dude. We have to catch our Mafia, and since you didn't post much... That made you looks very suspicion, so sorry that I have to do it.
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Pierre wrote:
Well I'll admit Sumguy was so inactive I blanked him and picked the first from the list I spotted as inactive and stopped checking the rest. I might have even adjusted it to him at some point (since voting for someone tends to force them to speak up and contribute) but then you voted for me so now I need to keep my vote on you for defence reasons.
As for why I'd use the same strategy? It's a valid town strategy on day one when there's little to go on. Weed out the people who don't chip in.
Worst Case Scenario: They are town members who don't contribute much to the discussion and therefore aren't helping (even if it's just a small comment to say "I'm thinking about something but don't have answers yet").
Best Case Scenario: You hit a Mafioso
Considering Day One is basically random this is as good as my reasoning gets. The Mafia's role is to masquerade as Townies anyway, you may say it was my strategy last time as a Maf but there's nothing to say I wouldn't have followed that plan anyway as a Townie. Besides I don't think we should be drawing so much from previous games anyway but believe what you will.
I figured I'd get the ball rolling is all, nothing personal but none of us have especially strong cases. I just want an active thread is all.
As for why I'd use the same strategy? It's a valid town strategy on day one when there's little to go on. Weed out the people who don't chip in.
Worst Case Scenario: They are town members who don't contribute much to the discussion and therefore aren't helping (even if it's just a small comment to say "I'm thinking about something but don't have answers yet").
Best Case Scenario: You hit a Mafioso
Considering Day One is basically random this is as good as my reasoning gets. The Mafia's role is to masquerade as Townies anyway, you may say it was my strategy last time as a Maf but there's nothing to say I wouldn't have followed that plan anyway as a Townie. Besides I don't think we should be drawing so much from previous games anyway but believe what you will.
I figured I'd get the ball rolling is all, nothing personal but none of us have especially strong cases. I just want an active thread is all.
No, the worst case scenario is that you hit a cop. It's always a better idea to look at posts for scumtells. And I find it hard to believe people are following you when you basically said that you randomly picked a person between me and sumguy
Whatever. It's an hour from PC and I doubt I can change anyone's mind before then given the infrequency of posts. I just got out of a long mafia game so I guess it's not a big deal if I'm booted from this one quickly
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While I didn't want to vote for JesusMonroe... However, my instincts were telling me otherwise.
Anyway, this is basically taking a shot in the dark...
Vote: JesusMonroe
Sorry, dude. We have to catch our Mafia, and since you didn't post much... That made you looks very suspicion, so sorry that I have to do it.
Anyway, this is basically taking a shot in the dark...
Vote: JesusMonroe
Sorry, dude. We have to catch our Mafia, and since you didn't post much... That made you looks very suspicion, so sorry that I have to do it.
I've posted more content in two posts than you have this entire game
This is a terrible post. BlueJay is mafia. Lynch him D2. I know our rolecards aren't revealed upon death, so you have little reason to trust me. But, if you ever decide to reevaluate my town status after I die, here you go. Remember this
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Accusing me of being Mafia, where's the evidence that proves your claim? If you don't have any evidence, your claim doesn't hold water.
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BlueJaythePirate wrote:
Accusing me of being Mafia, where's the evidence that proves your claim? If you don't have any evidence, your claim doesn't hold water.
You voted me. What's your evidence?
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Everyone will take the early boot sometime day one is a bit iffy.
JM ain't given us reason to believe he's a cop and we won't know either.
All gotta bite the bullet one day
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BlueJaythePirate wrote:
Pierre's right. We don't have any evidence at the moment.
Yet you're still voting for me
Edit: Someone post something so I dont triple-post
Edit2: Fuck it, I'm triple-posting
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Pierre wrote:
Everyone will take the early boot sometime day one is a bit iffy.
All gotta bite the bullet one day
All gotta bite the bullet one day
Btw, this isn't true at all. Scum gets lynched on D1 all the time. These aren't lucky guesses either. It's reasoning
I accused Lida on D1 in the last game, for example. Saying "fuck it, let's just lynch someone on D1 cause we have nothing to go on" is lazy as hell (and it's hypocritical on your end)
And if your reasoning for lynching me is because of my inactivity, what's your excuse now that I am active?
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Yeah, what Cold52 said!
So, to catch the Mafia, we would need the evidence. Evidence that will tell us what Mafia role we're dealing with.
On the topic of lynching a player during this phrase, I think it would be a huge risk, because we don't know which of us is the Mafia. Anyway, the only thing that we need to do if we were to catch the Mafia....
We have to trust our instincts.
So, to catch the Mafia, we would need the evidence. Evidence that will tell us what Mafia role we're dealing with.
On the topic of lynching a player during this phrase, I think it would be a huge risk, because we don't know which of us is the Mafia. Anyway, the only thing that we need to do if we were to catch the Mafia....
We have to trust our instincts.
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Accusing me of being Mafia, where's the evidence that proves your claim? If you don't have any evidence, your claim doesn't hold water.
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JesusMonroe wrote:
BlueJaythePirate wrote:
Pierre's right. We don't have any evidence at the moment.
Yet you're still voting for me
Edit: Someone post something so I dont triple-post
Somthing :V
anyways i wouldnt be against voting for jesusmonroe but...i dunno pierre has been a tad scummy at the start here using the guise of no evidence (again not enough to vote for you for now) but bluejay bandwagoning on the hit and these posts...
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Accusing me of being Mafia, where's the evidence that proves your claim? If you don't have any evidence, your claim doesn't hold water.
You voted me. What's your evidence?
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Pierre's right. We don't have any evidence at the moment.
are making me wanna vote for you bluejay...
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Cold52 wrote:
anyways i wouldnt be against voting for jesusmonroe but...i dunno pierre has been a tad scummy at the start here using the guise of no evidence (again not enough to vote for you for now) but bluejay bandwagoning on the hit and these posts...
are making me wanna vote for you bluejay...
are making me wanna vote for you bluejay...
No no no. This is too logical. You see, BlueJay has posted at least four times as much as sumguy. That means that he's 400% more town than sumguy is
Accusing BlueJay of being scum because he's contradicting himself, bussing, and trying to buy town cred/sympathy? Don't be ridiculous
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JesusMonroe wrote:
Cold52 wrote:
anyways i wouldnt be against voting for jesusmonroe but...i dunno pierre has been a tad scummy at the start here using the guise of no evidence (again not enough to vote for you for now) but bluejay bandwagoning on the hit and these posts...
are making me wanna vote for you bluejay...
are making me wanna vote for you bluejay...
No no no. This is too logical. You see, BlueJay has posted at least four times as much as sumguy. That means that he's 400% more town than sumguy is
Accusing BlueJay of being scum because he's contradicting himself, bussing, and trying to buy town cred/sympathy? Don't be ridiculous
i know right? maybe im just crazy and just should just set up a dart board and vote for the first guy's name my dart hits. D:
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Even though it's a hail mary at this point
Pierre, I'm going to ask you to reassess everything. You basically have a "fuck it, gotta lynch someone" mentality right now and it's just going to hurt the town
Franzise, you're being silly. Stop it
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Just stop doing this "But there's evidence!" act. You, JesusMonroe, are starting to looks more suspicion the more posts you made, accusing me without providing evidence.
Just give up, it's not working as you expected it to be. There's only one possible way why you are acting like this: You are Mafia.
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BlueJaythePirate wrote:
Oh really? You guys are acting like you have the evidence, but currently, we don't have any evidence at the moment, like Pierre said.
Just stop doing this "But there's evidence!" act. You, JesusMonroe, are starting to looks more suspicion the more posts you made, accusing me without providing evidence.
Just give up, it's not working as you expected it to be. There's only one possible way why you are acting like this: You are Mafia.
Just stop doing this "But there's evidence!" act. You, JesusMonroe, are starting to looks more suspicion the more posts you made, accusing me without providing evidence.
Just give up, it's not working as you expected it to be. There's only one possible way why you are acting like this: You are Mafia.
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE EITHER. YOU ARE BEING A GIANT HYPOCRITE
And extra size for extra emphasis...
Your first post said to use our instincts. You are contradicting yourself
Edit: Shouldn't have said "either" in the first large statement. Compared to BlueJay and Pierre's "evidence", I'm Phoenix goddamn Wright (at least Pierre acknowledges he has nothing, though)
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
My vote wasn't so much for Pierre's reasoning (although I do agree on the point that going for inactives is a good call if there's nothing else to go on, especially in a game like this where there isn't likely to be many tells) as JM's reaction to Pierre's vote. Immediately playing the "Hey, guys, remember last time he did this and he was scum" card seems kind of scum-like in itself, and then the OMGUS vote... It all seems awfully hostile and desperate over one random shot-in-the-dark vote. I can understand not wanting to get lynched on the first day, and it's unfortunate if we hit a townie, but it's not like it's game-ending. It would be game-ending if the one lynched was the sole mafioso, though.
It would be bad if the townie you lynched was a power role, though
And using past games in arguments is pretty standard on another forum. If you know how someone acts as town and then they don't act that, way it raises a red flag. That being said, I do think Pierre is town now, probably
Thank you for providing actual reasoning (though I do wish you put it with your vote post)
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I'm inclined to agree on Pierre's status atm; there's very little reason for the Mafia to draw attention to him/herself at this point, though unfortunately my vote is going to have to sit unless I see a good reason to switch it.
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
there's very little reason for the Mafia to draw attention to him/herself at this point
How does this apply to me?
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Maybe if you guys actually do some proper research, you would know that I have nothing to hide. I'm just a nobody who get accused for the wrong reasons, just based on some people's claims. I still say JesusMonroe is Mafia. He claimed that I'm Mafia, yet when both him and I don't have evidences to back up our claims.
"OMGUS!" That's what I would say to those who voted for me.
Know this: You guys are coming up with nonsense claims and you don't have proper evidence to back up your claims. Going by other people's reasonings, it's not going to help us catch the Mafia. You'll end up tearing each others apart until the Mafia declares that they won.
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BlueJaythePirate wrote:
Very funny. But you should know, don't turn this into a "BlueJay will be lynched at D1 of every Mafia game he take part in" fad. It'll get old really quick, and then nobody would want to do it. It's stupid, really.
If it does turn out you're town again, then this more indicates that YOU need to change your play style rather than the entire CR mafia team having a vendetta against you
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You haven't researched shit to back up any of your claims against me
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Welcome to mafia
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I still say JesusMonroe is Mafia. He claimed that I'm Mafia, yet when both him and I don't have evidences to back up our claims.
I have stated my evidence repeatedly (or at least as much "evidence" as one can expect in a mafia game without a cop report)
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JesusMonroe wrote:
Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
there's very little reason for the Mafia to draw attention to him/herself at this point
How does this apply to me?
I was referring to your original vote for Pierre.
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Right here we go.
To clarify you pointed out that you were contributing and therefore I shouldn't vote anymore. That indeed is true and I believe in the last round I unvoted someone for the same premise. In fact I might have done it sooner had you not voted for me which forced me to keep my vote in my own defence.
Not that I don't find your reaction suspicious, I agree that bringing up previous rounds as evidence and suggestions seems a bit strange along with the OMGUS vote. As Franzise stated it seems strangely hostile as it calls upon prejudice from previous rounds to get people to vote for me. You've only played with me once so you can hardly say I have a standard for my behaviour yet.
However you make a fair point about BlueJay. I was well aware my vote wasn't really founded on anything substantial, I consider it a curse of Day 1 though you suggest it's otherwise. BlueJay however seemed exceptionally bloodthirsty when pursuing you and as you pointed out was contradicting himself in his desperate attempts to accuse you. I knew my argument didn't have much to it and pointed that out to you so I felt it strange how you have so much conviction and determination to lynch JM. I mean the only person who knows for sure is the Mafioso right?
In any case this game is constructed around risk, JM isn't off the hook yet, Sumguy is also down on my list for now, perhaps a little poking at him in time will alleviate that. Still since alliances aren't revealed upon kill you just need to alleviate your doubts before you declare victory. It might just be that (like myself at times) Bluejay is just really bad at being innocent but for now this is how I'm rolling.
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