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Jeez...That sounds like a nightmare. Like when I lived in New Jersey and got put down for liking cartoons...While all the other 5th graders watched God only knows what.

My mom usually rents the latest animated movie that comes out on Netflix.
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Emiko Gale wrote:
Jeez...That sounds like a nightmare. Like when I lived in New Jersey and got put down for liking cartoons...While all the other 5th graders watched God only knows what.

My mom usually rents the latest animated movie that comes out on Netflix.


Ah it's not so bad, you sneaK bits here and there when your brother isn't in the room. With a laptop and earphones watching things stealthily is easier.

All the same I think it's part of the reason I can never really get into anime in my later life these days. Except for Hetalia, love that show.
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Jeez Hetalia. I don't hate the show or hate anyone who likes the show...But I don't really understand the hype. And the show only made me giggle a few times. ("Grandpa Rome! :D")
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Jeez Hetalia. I don't hate the show or hate anyone who likes the show...But I don't really understand the hype. And the show only made me giggle a few times. ("Grandpa Rome! :D")


I'm not a massive fan but it's enjoyable and the shortness of the episodes makes it easy to watch. An yeah Grandpa Rome is pretty cool and manly, shame he's only it it like a bit.
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Searching for Jobs, my mother and I had the idea that I follow her footsteps into becoming a Legal Assistant.

Yes, I am thinking of going into the legal profession. Considering I already have an interest in law, know how to use a computer well enough and can type blindly - something that some assistants can't do, apparently - and having worked in a legal office before, albeit for a very short time, I'm pretty qualified. Not to mention, I have a good brain and all that logic thinking, I am even more qualified.

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Well, I went to prom and it wasn't too bad. The food kinda sucked, but it was nice to be able to talk to my friends. Some maybe for the last time.

Tomorrow I start this 3 day starter thing for college, which I'm not looking forward to. :/
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I think I finally got it...Why I find "nice" people boring...But I may be a bit biased about this.

Well first off...Nice is an attitude, not a personality trait. Attitude is ever changing and anyone can simply be nice, even a person who's usually a jerk.

But aren't nice and moral two different things? I like people with a strong sense of morality, not only saying it but showing it.

Er, I hope this makes sense.
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So you say being Nice and being Moral are technically the same thing?

I am pretty moral. Or at least have my standards. Call me a Morality Pet, I just do not condone cheating in any sense of the fashion, whether somebody was drunk, high or anything else. Rape cannot be helped, that I would technically not call cheating...
But yeah morals can be a bit annoying at times, too.

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So you say being Nice and being Moral are technically the same thing?

I am pretty moral. Or at least have my standards. Call me a Morality Pet, I just do not condone cheating in any sense of the fashion, whether somebody was drunk, high or anything else. Rape cannot be helped, that I would technically not call cheating...
But yeah morals can be a bit annoying at times, too.

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I'd consider them different...Personally I don't get all the cheater hate...It usually doesn't have anything to do with anyone else except the people involved. But maybe I'm biased because I've known friends who cheated in the past, they weren't loud and proud about it, they were still human. I also have family members who cheated in the past...The key word being past, and someone's past is someone's past, what matters is what they do in the present.
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CatMuto wrote:
So you say being Nice and being Moral are technically the same thing?

I am pretty moral. Or at least have my standards. Call me a Morality Pet, I just do not condone cheating in any sense of the fashion, whether somebody was drunk, high or anything else. Rape cannot be helped, that I would technically not call cheating...
But yeah morals can be a bit annoying at times, too.

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What's with the 'technically' it's no question it's not cheating. Cheating requires intent.
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I'd consider them different...Personally I don't get all the cheater hate...It usually doesn't have anything to do with anyone else except the people involved. But maybe I'm biased because I've known friends who cheated in the past, they weren't loud and proud about it, they were still human. I also have family members who cheated in the past...The key word being past, and someone's past is someone's past, what matters is what they do in the present.


I'm not a fan of people having relations WHILE they're already in a freaking relationship. And the past being the past? I wanna be dramatic! What if somebody you're friends with murdered someone in the past and got away with it? How would YOU deal with that situation?
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Blak The Great wrote:
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I'd consider them different...Personally I don't get all the cheater hate...It usually doesn't have anything to do with anyone else except the people involved. But maybe I'm biased because I've known friends who cheated in the past, they weren't loud and proud about it, they were still human. I also have family members who cheated in the past...The key word being past, and someone's past is someone's past, what matters is what they do in the present.


I'm not a fan of people having relations WHILE they're already in a freaking relationship. And the past being the past? I wanna be dramatic! What if somebody you're friends with murdered someone in the past and got away with it? How would YOU deal with that situation?


Ok, Blak how about I bring up some stupid stuff you did in the past how would you like that?! *grabs you by your shirt collar*

Cheating isn't the same as murder. But still, do you think hate is going to fix anything?
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Cheating isn't the same as murder. But still, do you think hate is going to fix anything?


Yes!
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Blak The Great wrote:
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Cheating isn't the same as murder. But still, do you think hate is going to fix anything?


Yes!


I can't be friends with you Blak...I just can't, not after this.
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Emiko Gale wrote:
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Cheating isn't the same as murder. But still, do you think hate is going to fix anything?


Yes!


I can't be friends with you Blak...I just can't, not after this.


Alright fine. In all seriousness, no I don't think hate solves anything. And I was definitely joking when I was comparing murder and cheating. Hence, "I wanna be dramatic!"
Though I have no sympathy for people who cheat. In a single instance a person can completely destroy their trustworthiness. The way I see it, a person that cheats in a relationship may potentially do it again. Yeah that's a little unfair to assume, but that's what happens when you lose a person's trust all because you wanted to go out and get drunk.

I've heard too many similar stories where a person cheats on their partner, promises that they'll change, and they go right ahead and do it again.

Once again, I apologize for making you cross with me.
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Forgiving someone, in my case, depends on the answers to two questions:
  • Does the guilty party legitimately regret what he/she/they did?
  • Has the guilty party changed his/her/their ways and become a better person?
If the answer to both those questions is yes, I believe I can forgive someone, no matter the act. I can't say for certain, though, since I can't remember the last time someone wronged me as severely as the people you're discussing. I want to believe that this is all it would take for me to forgive my hypothetical wife/girlfriend if she cheated on me, but until it actually happens (which I hope it never does), I'll never actually know.
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That was still lousy Blak...Joking around when I was being serious, now i seriously feel like bashing my forehead against yours.

And if you seriously have enough balls to act like a jerk in front of a person who has cheated in the past...Then you're really no different from those bullies you dislike so much.
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That was still lousy Blak...Joking around when I was being serious, now i seriously feel like bashing my forehead against yours.

And if you seriously have enough balls to act like a jerk in front of a person who has cheated in the past...Then you're really no different from those bullies you dislike so much.


Who said I was being a jerk to people who've cheated? I've never met anyone that has, but I was friends with someone that was cheated ON and from what I heard she never regretted it.

Honestly, just break up with the person if you're going to have an affair.
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Blak The Great wrote:
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That was still lousy Blak...Joking around when I was being serious, now i seriously feel like bashing my forehead against yours.

And if you seriously have enough balls to act like a jerk in front of a person who has cheated in the past...Then you're really no different from those bullies you dislike so much.


Who said I was being a jerk to people who've cheated? I've never met anyone that has, but I was friends with someone that was cheated ON and from what I heard she never regretted it.

Honestly, just break up with the person if you're going to have an affair.


Why don't you worry about your own attitude instead of everyone elses...You're acting equally disgusting.

And pressing ideals on someone else isn't going to change anyone...Why do you care so much about something that doesn't effect you?
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Could the two of you please take a moment to calm down?
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Could the two of you please take a moment to calm down?

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Hmph! I don't like it when arguments get nasty anyways!
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*slaps cheeks* alright. But that was fun, for once my fears were just blown away and I was able to step up.
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*slaps cheeks* alright. But that was fun, for once my fears were just blown away and I was able to step up.


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Ehh!? Well i-i-iit's not like I like y-y-you or anything!
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Ok...I don't know what Kyou is doing here. ^^;

Maybe I'm just as dense as Blak.
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I'm not a fan of people having relations WHILE they're already in a freaking relationship.

Though I have no sympathy for people who cheat. In a single instance a person can completely destroy their trustworthiness. The way I see it, a person that cheats in a relationship may potentially do it again.


I completely agree with you on that, Blak.

If you are in a relationship with someone, you have no right to sleep with another person. You can see someone, be attracted to them and fantasize about them all you want, but you don't do anything. If you want to sleep with someone other than your current lover, you have no business being in a relationship.

And blaming things like alcohol for that one, stupid One Night Stand doesn't help or excuse anything. Alcohol doesn't change you or make you do things you don't want to, it lowers your inhibition of doing things you've already wanted to do.

My mother thinks I'm disgusting cause I'm so up-and-mighty about morals with that, probably partially because I'm a virgin and don't get how easy it is to slip into something, but I stand by these morals. My husband knows that if he cheated on me, I'd leave him. Other way around would be the same thing, although with a ton of self-loathing on my side because I am vehemently opposed and would make sure to never get into a situation that could lead to cheating on my partner.

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PS: Ditto on being attracted to someone who is in a relationship while you are single. Just because you are 'free' doesn't mean you can just pull them into your corner of the field. I don't mind people falling in love with someone who is in a relationship - I don't get why people act like it's such a horrible thing to do in the first place - just as long as you don't do anything.
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CatMuto wrote:
PS: Ditto on being attracted to someone who is in a relationship while you are single. Just because you are 'free' doesn't mean you can just pull them into your corner of the field. I don't mind people falling in love with someone who is in a relationship - I don't get why people act like it's such a horrible thing to do in the first place - just as long as you don't do anything.

Agreed. In my opinion, trying to tempt someone to cheat on his/her partner is just as bad as cheating on your own partner. If all involved parties consider it an "open relationship" (not my kind of relationship, but to each their own), that's one thing, but if there's any expectation of monogamy, people should keep their thoughts of infidelity from becoming anything more than thoughts.

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My mother thinks I'm disgusting cause I'm so up-and-mighty about morals with that, probably partially because I'm a virgin and don't get how easy it is to slip into something, but I stand by these morals. My husband knows that if he cheated on me, I'd leave him. Other way around would be the same thing, although with a ton of self-loathing on my side because I am vehemently opposed and would make sure to never get into a situation that could lead to cheating on my partner.

Wait, what?

It's not exactly my place to ask, so feel free to ignore me, but are you both married and a virgin? ...Or did I misinterpret your wording?
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It's not exactly my place to ask, so feel free to ignore me, but are you both married and a virgin? ...Or did I misinterpret your wording?


Sounds confusing, I know.
I'm actually still in the engaged-to-be-married state, but since I'm gonna marry him anyway, why bother calling him Fiancé or boyfriend. Just say husband to begin with. And yes, I'm almost 23 and still a virgin. I have a very tough time with body contact (likely due to repressed childhood trauma), so I haven't managed to get myself to do it. Just the idea of taking my clothes off makes my stomach churn. (I know, I know, people can have sex with their clothes on, but I am still freaked out as anything)

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You're talking to a twenty-four-year-old who hasn't even kissed a woman unless you count close relatives. I'm not in a position to look down on you.
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CatMuto wrote:
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It's not exactly my place to ask, so feel free to ignore me, but are you both married and a virgin? ...Or did I misinterpret your wording?


Sounds confusing, I know.
I'm actually still in the engaged-to-be-married state, but since I'm gonna marry him anyway, why bother calling him Fiancé or boyfriend.


Cause Fiancé is the term used to describe someone that you're about to marry :yuusaku:
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Cause Fiancé is the term used to describe someone that you're about to marry :yuusaku:


Like I said, I'm gonna marry him anyway. I don't see a point in calling him Fiancé and then switching to Husband once we 'have the paper'.

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Regarding forgiving anyone who's cheated or that, not to stir anything up but to add my experience on the matter. My dad was in an affair for a year or so before leaving my mum, that was kind of a rough time for me just after he revealed it since I was going through my first (really quite bad) relationship myself.

However, ever since he left that marriage (Which mostly consisted of them fighting all the time, and they wanted to leave each other for the longest time but didn't for my sake) he's become much nicer, and I've certainly got closer to him since then, and got over my teenage phase of "ah, I hate my dad!" and all that. My mum's been much better off too, really I managed to get closer to my family all round.

So, maybe this is more of a slant against bad marriages or bad relationships in general, but I can't just blanket say "I hate anyone who cheats". Hell, I don't even hate my ex-girlfriend, and she was cheating on me.

Really, I'm just too lazy to hate. It's too much effort.

Anyway, in important business, I got the Hero's Cap in New Leaf!
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I stand by my opinion that cheating itself is bad, but I do think that if a relationship is unstable, it should be allowed to collapse if the couple isn't interested in trying to repair it. Better one happy parent than two unhappy ones, in my opinion (says the man whose parents are still happily married).
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I stand by my opinion that cheating itself is bad, but I do think that if a relationship is unstable, it should be allowed to collapse if the couple isn't interested in trying to repair it. Better one happy parent than two unhappy ones, in my opinion (says the man whose parents are still happily married).


Well, that doesn't mean that any bad relationship automatically falls - or should fall - apart because one, or both, partner is cheating. I'm not sure what to think of a couple that stays together 'for the sake of the kids' and then maybe decides to break up once the kids are old enough.
I mean, if they do and still fight with each other, what kind of a household is that to live in? Your kids won't have very many nice memories to remember the parents as a couple by, mostly just remember the fighting and probably thinking that it'd be better to just break up already.

My parents separated when I was 7 and got a divorce a year later, one kid staying with each parent. And I can't say that that is all the much better, I do seem to have a slightly distant relationship with my father and I might be too dependant on my mother. I can't say either/or is a better solution to a bad relationship.

But I would say, if you really can't stand being with your partner anymore and can't think you could pull it through to remain for the kids, I would say break up. Better leave too late than never...

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I can't believe what I said was completely ignored.
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I can't believe what I said was completely ignored.

The Kyou remark or your comment about enjoying the debate?
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You're talking to a twenty-four-year-old who hasn't even kissed a woman unless you count close relatives. I'm not in a position to look down on you.


Don't say that man. It was one of the worst things I heard back in uni.

My young arrogant know-it-all friend was in first year like "I don't think there's anything wrong with being a virgin nothing to be ashamed of"

Then from second year on "Man I didn't know what I was saying back then, you've never had sex so you aren't entitled to an opinion on relationships" he would say as he failed to hold down a relationship for more than 2 months.

You are totally entitled to have opinions and attitudes on relationships regardless of your experience. In the end it's your call for your relationship so why wouldn't your opinion or how you go about forging them matter.
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I was more so saying that I'm not in a position to look down on Cat for being a virgin when I've had less success in the romance department than pretty much everyone I know. I've seen enough stable and unstable relationships to at least feel qualified to offer input on what I see.
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I was more so saying that I'm not in a position to look down on Cat for being a virgin when I've had less success in the romance department than pretty much everyone I know. I've seen enough stable and unstable relationships to at least feel qualified to offer input on what I see.


Well no one regardless of their experience should look down on anyone for being a virgin.
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I agree completely, Pierre. Virginity is about as good an indicator of someone's character as his/her eyesight.
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Pierre wrote:
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I was more so saying that I'm not in a position to look down on Cat for being a virgin when I've had less success in the romance department than pretty much everyone I know. I've seen enough stable and unstable relationships to at least feel qualified to offer input on what I see.


Well no one regardless of their experience should look down on anyone for being a virgin.


It's too late. There's already that stigma of: Virgin=loser ingrained in society nowadays.
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