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Franny is a Whore..... Let the Flames begin Chimani

First order of business: yes, I love Franziska. I ended up liking her more the second time I played through the game. I have even embarked on the journy of Fran cosplay~! I fear making the poofy shoulders.

Secondly: I do not see Manfred as abusive to Fran. Strict? Sure. Besides, Manfred is a psychological villain more than anything else. You don't need to make him cane his daughter to make him evil. Remember this is a man that Miles looked up to. I think he would have a hard time doing that if he knew he was beating the crap out of a little girl--his youngest daughter, no less.

Hmm, good points. I was just wondering because I've seen some fanfics that portrayed him that way, so I wanted to know what others thought about it. I was also wondering where she picked up the habit of whipping people o.0
Anyway, I think emotional abuse isn't out of the question...or maybe I'm just trying to give Franzy the benefit of the doubt. I.E. "It's okay if she thinks that imperfect losers are worthless and deserve to die, because her father told her that!" etc. Or. Something >>;

SilverZephyr wrote:

I don't think that verbally or physically abusive behavior is necessary to produce a person like Franziska von Karma. When you really look up to an parent figure it's easy to internalize their morals to an extreme in an attempt to gain their approval.

You could go either way, though.

Of course we love Franny. Sexiest objection in the game belongs to her.

The character devolopment is odd, it changes too much at the end *runs away from CFTF*

Also, she could be charged with like 15 different assult cases. Hitting people with a whip isn't legal (although Oldbag does deserve it and I stick with Phoenix with that line.)

I didn't really, it just seems so unlike of what we knew of her to break down like that. Also, she could be charged with like 15 different assult cases. Hitting people with a whip isn't legal (although Oldbag does deserve it and I stick with Phoenix with that line.)

Is this the Franny FC that has been posted. I'm amazed.

Why dont they love Franny T________T

Author:	HyperJerk [ Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:49 pm ]
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Franny is a Whore..... Let the Flames begin

Author:	1010 [ Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:40 pm ]
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HyperJerk wrote: Franny is a Whore..... Let the Flames begin Well. Until I found out she has an older sister I thought she was the mother of a 7 year old. xD (Case 4 of AA, von Karma talks about having a 7 year old grand daughter who has a dog named Phoenix. What a stupid name for a dog.) But maybe she is a whore. She wants Gumshoe real bad.

Author:	CantFaketheFunk [ Thu May 03, 2007 3:32 am ]
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We still do love Franziska.

Author:	ButzPuff [ Thu May 03, 2007 3:49 am ]
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I totally agree with CTFT! Fransizka/Adrian Forever!

Author:	MoronSonOfBoron [ Thu May 03, 2007 3:50 am ]
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Love me, lash me, lock me up and leave me! I'm a FRANBOY!

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Author:	Urby [ Thu May 03, 2007 4:01 am ]
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I invade yet another thread! Oh, oh, take cover now. I'll confess: I read lots of fanfiction before I played JFA, so I came in with a...biased? opinion on her. My first taste of Phoenix Wright was when I watched my brother play some of Case 4 while he was interrogating Adrian. I LOVED HER AT ONCE, she just looked so...pinchable. So I resolved to learn more about the series (coughandy) and thus discovered Franziska. Well, discover is not the right word, since I had read up on her elsewhere. But this was Fran in action! So I learned Fran was awesome then I played the game and I was like "Yeah, she's pretty much win incarnate, I'd be glad if she showed up just to whip me" and thus I became a fangirl. I HEARTED HER WHEN SHE CRIED THAT WAS SO PINCH-WORTHY ...My story is a strange one.

Author:	The Guy TM [ Fri May 04, 2007 9:36 pm ]
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<3333 friska ^-^ =P

Author:	SilverZephyr [ Fri May 04, 2007 10:45 pm ]
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HyperJerk wrote: Franny is a Whore..... Let the Flames begin Howd'ya figure that? Considering she's not in a sexual relationship with any character, let alone multiple characters. </literal> AND YES, WE STILL DO LOVE FRANZISKA. I should write another rant about her "OMFGDEEPSYMPATHETICBACKSTORY" but I'm lazy and seem to have lost my others >>; VERY RANDOM, BUT HEY, THIS WHOLE THREAD IS RANDOM ANYWAY: I'm under the impression that most fans are under agreement that Manfred physically abused Franzy, based on the fanfics of her growing up. Circumstancial evidence being: 1. She thinks it's okay to go around whipping everyone who doesn't agree with her. 2. Manfred has a cane in his official art, which he doesn't use for walking in any of his sprites. 3. Manfred is a bitch. THOUGHTS?

Author:	Vecekio [ Sat May 05, 2007 12:38 am ]
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Hell yeah I like Franny... actually liked her even before I saw her in action. Franziska being abused... I think it is very likely considering what kind of person Manfred von Karma was.

Author:	hyacynth [ Sat May 05, 2007 3:23 am ]
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First order of business: yes, I love Franziska. I ended up liking her more the second time I played through the game. I have even embarked on the journy of Fran cosplay~! I fear making the poofy shoulders. Secondly: I do not see Manfred as abusive to Fran. Strict? Sure. Besides, Manfred is a psychological villain more than anything else. You don't need to make him cane his daughter to make him evil. Remember this is a man that Miles looked up to. I think he would have a hard time doing that if he knew he was beating the crap out of a little girl--his youngest daughter, no less.

Author:	Android 21 3/7 [ Sat May 05, 2007 3:28 am ]
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:D YAAAY! I like Franziska. And all those cute little nicknames we come up with because we're too lazy to type out her full name. Just her hair and her outfit and her whip and her mannerisms! She's so fun to draw! And also... >>... <<... I'M A LARRY/FRANZIE SHIPPER! builds her tiny lil fort and puts up her tiny little flag

Author:	CantFaketheFunk [ Sat May 05, 2007 3:32 am ]
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Oh, Larry hitting on Franziska is ADORABLE, I'll admit that :P

Author:	SilverZephyr [ Sat May 05, 2007 3:35 am ]
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hyacynth wrote: First order of business: yes, I love Franziska. I ended up liking her more the second time I played through the game. I have even embarked on the journy of Fran cosplay~! I fear making the poofy shoulders. Secondly: I do not see Manfred as abusive to Fran. Strict? Sure. Besides, Manfred is a psychological villain more than anything else. You don't need to make him cane his daughter to make him evil. Remember this is a man that Miles looked up to. I think he would have a hard time doing that if he knew he was beating the crap out of a little girl--his youngest daughter, no less. Hmm, good points. I was just wondering because I've seen some fanfics that portrayed him that way, so I wanted to know what others thought about it. I was also wondering where she picked up the habit of whipping people o.0 Anyway, I think emotional abuse isn't out of the question...or maybe I'm just trying to give Franzy the benefit of the doubt. I.E. "It's okay if she thinks that imperfect losers are worthless and deserve to die, because her father told her that!" etc. Or. Something >>;

Author:	RevFirst [ Sat May 05, 2007 3:37 am ]
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: What would you like me to do now, master?... runs away from CantFaketheFunk and EdgeworthFanGirl Okay! No more Moe-style jokes! coughMasterBatescough shot

Author:	Morinozuka Takashi [ Sat May 05, 2007 2:15 pm ]
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It's a love and hate thing she has with me. One day, I hate her, but then some days, I like her to bits. It's weird. The scene where she cried? I didn't think it was THAT interesting... I thought it was an attempt to give her character, but that's just my opinion. People say that Edgeworth and Phoenix hate eachg other, but I think these two (Phoenix and Franny) go at it even worse. o_O ~~The end of case 2: JFA made me laugh, though.~~ I man, whipping people to get your point across was interesting and funny at first, but then it just began to become... immature. She did it a lot. blink But nonetheless, she is second to Mia on my "favorite PW girls" list. =D

Author:	Delcatty [ Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:07 pm ]
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I think the only female prosecutor of the series deserves some recognition! Reasons to love her: Genius - she started prosecuting at 13 for godssakes That whip - she don't take shit from no-one! xD Tsundere Foolish foolery XD Oh and did I mention.. Sexy? Spoiler: Hell yeah! {Credit: Pixiv.net} So, discuss your love of Ziska, post your favourite art and / or pairings, I command you !

Author:	GigaHand [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:47 pm ]
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I like Franziska's character. She may not show it, but in reality, she has the guts of a fish stick. OWWWW!! faints one trip to the hospital later She wasn't even willing to stand up to Pearl, let alone Godot. She always whips the same people (Phoenix, Gumshoe, whoever's unlucky enough to be on the witness stand, and once in 2-3, Maya). And you've really got to feel sorry for her. She was overshadowed by Edgeworth all her life. She had the opportunity to surpass him by performing a task he was unable to (defeating Phoenix in court), but she failed. Then he came back and did it before she could. If I were her I would have whipped everything in sight until the whole courthouse collapsed.

Author:	Johnny Rotan [ Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:27 pm ]
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Always been one of my top fav' characters. I find her treatment of and entertaining . First she was hot. Now she's also cute thanks to Spoiler: Her young version And congratz on her win in the best character design contest. I did find another Fran fanclub in search, but it's older than the hills: defendant-lobby/the-love-franziska-topic-t428.html And of course when the marriage / adoption thing started she was my pic'

Author:	hyacynth [ Sat May 05, 2007 4:12 am ]
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SilverZephyr wrote: Hmm, good points. I was just wondering because I've seen some fanfics that portrayed him that way, so I wanted to know what others thought about it. I was also wondering where she picked up the habit of whipping people o.0 Anyway, I think emotional abuse isn't out of the question...or maybe I'm just trying to give Franzy the benefit of the doubt. I.E. "It's okay if she thinks that imperfect losers are worthless and deserve to die, because her father told her that!" etc. Or. Something >>; I don't think that verbally or physically abusive behavior is necessary to produce a person like Franziska von Karma. When you really look up to an parent figure it's easy to internalize their morals to an extreme in an attempt to gain their approval.

Author:	SilverZephyr [ Sat May 05, 2007 4:38 am ]
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hyacynth wrote: SilverZephyr wrote: Hmm, good points. I was just wondering because I've seen some fanfics that portrayed him that way, so I wanted to know what others thought about it. I was also wondering where she picked up the habit of whipping people o.0 Anyway, I think emotional abuse isn't out of the question...or maybe I'm just trying to give Franzy the benefit of the doubt. I.E. "It's okay if she thinks that imperfect losers are worthless and deserve to die, because her father told her that!" etc. Or. Something >>; I don't think that verbally or physically abusive behavior is necessary to produce a person like Franziska von Karma. When you really look up to an parent figure it's easy to internalize their morals to an extreme in an attempt to gain their approval. Yeah, you're right. I guess when I'm making excuses for people I should actually stop to think about my excuses, huh? >>;

Author:	Raelle [ Sat May 05, 2007 5:12 am ]
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We've seen Manfred engage in physical violence to get what he wants, though, with Phoenix and Maya. And he seemed fairly sadistic and gleeful about it. That's the main thing that gives me pause as far as the physical abuse question goes. You could go either way, though.

Author:	MoronSonOfBoron [ Sat May 05, 2007 7:12 am ]
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Raelle wrote: You could go either way, though. Just like Fran. >_> <_< AH CRAP TOO SLOW x_x

Author:	[Team Sonic] Shadow [ Sat May 05, 2007 11:25 pm ]
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Dangerous wrote: Of course we love Franny. Sexiest objection in the game belongs to her. Not that I agree, but her objection is my 2nd favorite (after edgy's), but we only hear it about 5 times. I don't like her that much because she just is too annoying. The character devolopment is odd, it changes too much at the end runs away from CFTF. Also, she doesn't act enough like Manfred, who although is a pain and evil, is really cool. A bit of a let-down for me.

Author:	Raelle [ Sat May 05, 2007 11:32 pm ]
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Quote: The character devolopment is odd, it changes too much at the end runs away from CFTF Hmm, really? I didn't think it changed at all. If we're talking about the airport scene, it seemed like the natural conclusion of everything we knew about Franziska - her desperation to live up to her name, her youth, her love of Edgeworth. All of the build-up and indicators leading to that scene were there, I think.

Author:	Android 21 3/7 [ Sat May 05, 2007 11:53 pm ]
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[Team Sonic] Shadow wrote: I didn't really, it just seems so unlike of what we knew of her to break down like that. Also, she could be charged with like 15 different assult cases. Hitting people with a whip isn't legal (although Oldbag does deserve it and I stick with Phoenix with that line.) Spoiler: JFA ending But she was talking with Edgeworth who, in her mind, always seemd to look down on her (in her words, "You always left me alone and walked on ahead without me!". When he finally told her that he considers them equals ("Today you chased me down after I left you behind after all these years and that's why... we're standing here now. Side by side."), that really must have had an impact on her. Especially when he says "I have no intention on stopping. If you say you're going to quit your walk down the prosecutor's path... then this is where we part ways." Deep down, all along, I think that's what she truly wanted and she finally gained his acknowledgement (if she really didn't have it before...).

Author:	[Team Sonic] Shadow [ Sun May 06, 2007 12:05 am ]
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Man!!! Okay, you guys win. I still hold to the fact that we don't hear enough of 's objection. Put down the whip every once in a while, huh?

Author:	CantFaketheFunk [ Sun May 06, 2007 3:58 am ]
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more of Fran's sexy voice is never a bad thing.

Author:	SilverZephyr [ Sun May 06, 2007 4:05 am ]
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INDUBITABLY. Her sexy objection needs to be heard more often D=

Author:	CantFaketheFunk [ Sun May 06, 2007 4:08 am ]
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It's a lot sexier than Mia's. That's for sure.

Author:	Android 21 3/7 [ Sun May 06, 2007 4:10 am ]
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Personally, I don't like Franziska's objection that much. Unless you're talking about her Japanese objection. I felt her presense behind that one! The punch! The impact! The wow! But it felt lacking in her english objection...

Author:	Atheshya [ Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:16 am ]
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Wow, is this really the first Franziska fanclub that's been posted here? Because if it is, I'm amazed at the lack of Franziska fans... those fools. But yes, I agree on all points. ^_^ Go Franziska!

Author:	eulogy7x [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:59 pm ]
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Is this the first Franny FC that has been posted. I'm amazed. Why dont they love Franny T________T

Author:	GigaHand [ Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:05 pm ]
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eulogy7x wrote: Is this the Franny FC that has been posted. I'm amazed. Why dont they love Franny T________T Because they're foolishly foolish fools who foolishly follow foolhardy fools.

Author:	Chloe [ Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:41 pm ]
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Delcatty those are some lovely pics. saves I love Franziska. I really liked how fierce she was in court and outside court, she weren't too bad. She's like a perfectionist a bit like her dad. I think her whip is made of win. I think she's pretty and quite hot and I also like how she feels like a diva in court. She's one of my favorite characters. Franziska's crying sprites were adorable and also Spoiler: Her younger self. For Franziska pairs, well my favorite is / and it's my OTP but I like pretty much most ships with Franziska. And fan art time http://www.rocket.ne.jp/~kafuka/mm/other/mayomei.htm this picture is adorable.

Author:	Large Bananas [ Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:12 pm ]
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I hated Franzy right until 2-4. Then i forgave her, even though she wasn't trying to help me. Then i loved her when she cried. D'AAAAW SO CUTE

Author:	Icarus [ Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:49 pm ]
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Maybe I'm just being silly, but I think 2-4 would have been even more awesome if the prosecutor was a still-bleeding-from-the-shoulder von Karma. I really dug how tenacious and persistent Franziska was, it's too bad she didn't have better cases to showcase her personality.

Author:	moonfall [ Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:47 am ]
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Agreed. I think part of the reason people say Franziska has no logic skills or is a lousy prosecutor is because she got stuck with ridiculous cases. 2-2 had her arguing a ghost killed someone, and 2-3 required her to claim that a circus magician flew without the aid of stage equipment. If she hadn't been shot in 2-4, she might have been able to better show her skills and possibly defeat Phoenix Wright. If Capcom ever gives her the chance to grow up a little, she'll be a force to be reckoned with. I think her greatest weakness is immaturity rather than lack of intelligence or skill.

Author:	Lunaria42 [ Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:37 am ]
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I merged this topic with the old one because we don't need two topics for the same thing even if the other one was dead. It would have been a relevant necro if something was in post in the old one, so I thought it would be better to just merge them instead of locking yours. Anyway, I also really like Franziska. She's feisty and it can be fun to explore other facets of her character in fics. I wish Capcom would make her personality more two dimensional in the games, but I guess their happy with their whip wielding woman.