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So he lived in Germany did he? If Manfred really did raise Edgeworth, then they couldn't have stayed in Germany for more than 6 months. von Karma only took one vacation in his entire career: a six month vacation after being shot during DL-6. That was the only time von Karma took a vacation from work, and he is a prosecutor in America. Any time spent in Germany, even as a prosecutor, would be considered time away from his work here in America. So, either Edgeworth was in Germany with his new father for 6 months or not at all. The only other alternative would be that von Karma's wife raised Edgeworth. Did von Karma teach Edgeworth law via correspondence, or did Miles move back to the US once he was old enough to begin learning law? Miles couldn't have spent more than 6 months in Germany while living with von Karma, and even as crazy as von Karma is, I doubt even he could make Edgeworth fully fluent in German in 6 months. :karma:


I was trying to figure this out myself. I just replayed PW1 not long ago, and the only explanation I could think of was that Von Karma was so famous that he was in demand in both Germany and America. Edgeworth said over and over that Von Karma taught him "everything he knows," so he must've been there physically to teach him, and not to mention Franziska (they both picked up parts of his hand gestures, that's gotta prove something). BUT.. Edgeworth went back to America to actually start prosecuting in T&T (in the flashback when he was 20).. and Franziska was prosecuting in Germany for 5 years before JFA came around.. So where was Manfred during all this? :meekins:

Also, not to sound even more confusing, but in the Japanese version, where did they say Von Karma came from? Was it still Germany? Because well... they changed the story's location from Japan to America, who's to say they may not have changed the other country as well? I thought I heard from somewhere that in the Japanese version, Von Karma was actually from America.. :meekins: If that's the case, no wonder Edgey's so confused.. he doesn't know what accent he should have! :yuusaku: teehee.. I dunno.. I got nothing.. anyone know for sure?
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Court Records states that in the Japanese version, Manfred von Karma was from America. It still doesn't help explain the issue of Miles' accent, and the confusing time line, however. The only logical conclusion I can come up with is that von Karma went to Germany during those 6 months. It's the only way that Miles and Franziska would have met. Seems we've discovered a contradiction, of sorts. :godot:
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Or perhaps he continued to prosecute in Germany while Edgeworth and Franziska were growing up? That's another way to explain it I guess...

Still no clue about Edgeworth's accent though... except maybe Japanese people thought Americans have English accents because they speak English? :eh?: ... Errr.. wait.. when did they do the English voice acting for the game? When the game FIRST came out or when it was localized? o_o...
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:objection:

Manfred prosecuting in Germany while Miles and Franziska were growing up would be considered time away from his job as a prosecutor in America, and it was stated that the only time he ever took off was 6 months immediately following DL-6. Miles and Fran must have grown quickly. :godot:

As far as the voices are concerned, the clips in question were recorded for the Japanese release of T&T, and were subsequently used in the American version. I doubt that the developers would have had Edgeworth have an English accent because he studied under the "American" von Karma; the only possible explanation is that he picked it up while
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Did they say he took 6 months vacation from prosecuting in America or just in general? I've been wondering about that since I replayed 1-4, and if it's the latter, it would explain the contradiction. If it's the former, we just might have something to add to the contradictions page?
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They say he took 6 months vacation immediately following the DL-6 Incident. Grossberg states:

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Grossberg: It must have been quite a shock for von Karma. He took a vacation for several months after that, you see.
Phoenix: A vacation...?
Grossberg: Yes, an unusual event for the man. That was the first, and the last vacation he's taken in his many years of prosecuting.


Phoenix even says later in the trial:

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Phoenix: Because you took a vacation for several months starting the day after the incident! Yet you pride yourself on a perfect record! Why would you take such a long vacation without any reason!?


So, it seems that von Karma did not do any prosecuting during this time. Nothing to add to his record.

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So they didn't really specify where he was after those 6 months? If that is indeed the case, wouldn't it be possible that he stayed in Germany a little after that? Edgeworth was able to prosecute in several countries it would seem without any problem. It's still considered work.
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Besides you all missed one piece of detail. Edgeworth was taken in by vonKarma after he came back from his holiday. So either they all moved back to Germany to prosecute for a while, or they live in America. I'd say they all moved though, otherwise Franziska would have trained in America
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Yeah, Karma should have only been in germany 6 months, but it says over and over how Franzika was "born and raised in germany".

Wtf...? They never mention a mother, and she calls Edgy "little brother" so I assumed he was raised with her, right?
Actually, does Franny even have a mother figure? Manfred doesn't seem the husbandly type, mabye he reproduced via budding? :karma:
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Actually, does Franny even have a mother figure? Manfred doesn't seem the husbandly type, mabye he reproduced via budding? :karma:

Uh... :eh?:
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You know, like a sponge... of evil.
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A...sponge of evil?
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Evil sponges... Otherwise known as loofas.
I dunno, Loofa is fin to say...
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XD. I had a loofa once. But I threw it out of the window, and it broke ._.
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Loofa is way more fun :P
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The hell did we go from Edgeworth to loofahs, anyway?
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...Maybe?
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Why would Edgeworth like Loofahs?
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I have no idea.
Because they're...loofah-y?
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There is only one explanation.

Edgeworth likes loofahs because Manfred taught him to always keep a shiny desk- and to keep a shiny desk, you must use a LOOFAH! Then Manfred would slap him if he didn't use a loofah right.

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Or Manfred would use a loofah on him for...other reasons?
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I find it hard to believe that Manfred moved back to Germany after those 6 months. He would want to continue pursuing his lucrative career in America. Besides, the only reason he decided to take that "vacation" was because he had been injured. Had it not been for Miles inflicting the gunshot wound, von Karma would never have decided to leave the country. So, as far as I'm concerned, Miles and Franziska weren't raised together. :beef:
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I find it hard to believe that Manfred moved back to Germany after those 6 months. He would want to continue pursuing his lucrative career in America. Besides, the only reason he decided to take that "vacation" was because he had been injured. Had it not been for Miles inflicting the gunshot wound, von Karma would never have decided to leave the country. So, as far as I'm concerned, Miles and Franziska weren't raised together.


Yeah, but then how come Franny calls Miles "Little Brother"? You'd assume they were with each other a lot...


How did this go from dirogetory hand gestures to loofahs? :eh?:
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Yeah, I guess.
LOOFA POWERS!
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I thought they did... They're those oblong scratchy spoges right?
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I don't know where they come from, actually... It's a myyyssssterrrrryyyyyy...!
Mostly cos I have to go now and can't google it :edgy:
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Whatever they're made of, they're very loofah-y.
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Indeed. I'm wondering how many posts we can milk the loofah joke for...
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LOOFAAAAH!
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This talk about loofahs and the thread title make me think of the FUN song.
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2) Apperently the English middle finger is a backwords peace sign, or so I've heard
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If you actually watched the film, you'd release it was a Irish film. On on the subject of Irish people, we mostly use the single middle finger, but also use the two fingers as well.
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