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There were plenty more as well.
Also, in the upcoming PW: TaT (GS3), one of the screenshots has the start of a testimony, which is called "-- Me and The Victim --". Shouldn't that really be "--The Victim and I--"?
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on Friday the 13th...
I guess that day IS unluky >.>
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"Acrobat's are" which should be "Acrobats are".
I took me long enough to notice what you pointed out, let alone the tiny mistake while I was playing the game.
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"-- Me and The Victim --".
I personally don't think the grammar is a big part of the game. It's not for educational purposes is it now?
Anyway, well done you for spotting those mistakes. I wouldn't have, but hey, I guess you know English better than I do XD
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But, yeah, typos bad. Typos very very bad. :(
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And finally, Maggey used the same slang as Gumshoe in Japanese, but this was strangely absent in the English version. Perhaps they thought it didn't suit her?
I haven't been hit by a car, nobody's coming at me with a switchblade, the tectonic plates aren't splitting apart, and it isn't raining blood, so I guess this is a good day!
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Naruhodou-san wrote:
"-- Me and The Victim --". Shouldn't that really be "--The Victim and I--"?
I was under the impression that was how Phoenix himself had worded it in the lines of dialogue before the testimony. To say "Me and ____" isn't uncommon in regular speech, so I didn't think it was odd at all. =/
Otherwise, yes, it seems the translation teams neglect to proofread themselves. I think it adds to the humor myself. :P
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And during Moe's Fresh Prince parody, there are a couple of mistakes. West Clownadelphia is where he "spent his clowin" ("clownin'," naturally). And there were "a couple of clowns, they were up to no good"; the lyric should be (again, if memory serves) "a couple of clowns, who were up to no good, started...".
I'm a bit of a stickler myself, so I sympathize. They aren't game-changing mistakes, but are mildly irritating simply because they could be remedied with a quick proofreading session. Worry not, though: I am more than grateful that we have a translation at all, and I love CoA for it.
(Haha, and I remembered slight errors in Moe's parody from when I played it, but it went by too quickly for me to retain it. I had to pinpoint the exact slips from two screen captures).
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"she'" instead of "she's," "Mr. Curl's" instead of "Mr. Curls'," "silver" instead of "sliver," and yeah, the "acrobat's" one pointed out earlier. ugh.
I don't mind that stuff normally, but the fact that this is in a published, official game makes me cringe D=
but I digress XD; the story and the plot twists of it all made up for the typos many times over...
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Just be thankful that There IS an English Translation ;D
Agreed! I wouldn't care if it was like pokemon crystal from spain (It said rude words ;-;) I'm just so happy that GS3 is being made for DS!! <3
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Also, when there's a sentence like: "I went out for a walk... and uh... yeah, I've got nothing." Right after the 3 periods, are the first letters supposed to be capitalized or lowercased? I've noticed some of those things in the PW text.
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Aurezai wrote:
Also, when there's a sentence like: "I went out for a walk... and uh... yeah, I've got nothing." Right after the 3 periods, are the first letters supposed to be capitalized or lowercased?
Those three periods are ellipses. If there's only three, the letters afterwards are not supposed to be capitalized, since they continue a sentence (the ellipsis represents a pause, in that case). If you mean to end the sentence (if someone is trailing off, for example), you're supposed to add a fourth period. The sentence after that is then capitalized.
At least, that's how I always understood it. =/
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That's like changing "The victim was killed with an axe." into "The victim was killed with an ox."
It's crazy.
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And it is supposed to be lowercase, according to MS word.
Wow, I had no idea >.> No wonder my english scores are bad!
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That's like changing "The victim was killed with an axe." into "The victim was killed with an ox."
Now that would be one hell of a murder weapon XD
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It didn't make me angry or anything, as the game was still very good, but they were quite noticeable and a simple proofread would have spotted them.
Apart from the other mistakes that people have pointed out, the only other one I remember was that Phoenix (I think) thought 'per say' at one point, and then later someone said 'per se' again, but with the correct spelling. So the translation team obviously knows what the right form is, they just...forgot once? That was in case three.
As for the first game, I don't remember spotting any grammatical mistakes in there. But this one...urgh, put a bit more effort into it next time, please.
But I do understand that they are pushed for time, work very hard, are nice people (judging that on the interviews that Lost did with the team), and have otherwise localised it very well.
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And that's why I'd love to proofread for them. It would save them the time and effort, and I'd get to work with the PW team. Hooray for proper English!
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Although, I must say it would have only mildly annoyed me if not for a certain glorified game over in which "happened" became "happen" and I actually GIGGLED at the typo when I was supposed to be misty-eyed by the tragicness. Still sore about that D<
The other thing that irritated me about the typoes was how OBVIOUS they were, playing through. Even though most of the game gives you a sense that the translators were working really hard, you kind of lose that sense when you see the above mentioned typo in a game-over sequence and a "silver" of common sense instead of a "sliver" of common sense. It makes me think they only gave it a quick glance-over rather than really paying attention to what they were doing, when I'm aware that's probably not the case.
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Plankton614 wrote:
Hmm... I only noticed "per se" in 2-4 (Phoenix used it with de Killer, if I'm not mistaken), and it was spelled correctly. I may have missed another one earlier on, or just brushed it aside.
And that's why I'd love to proofread for them. It would save them the time and effort, and I'd get to work with the PW team. Hooray for proper English!
And that's why I'd love to proofread for them. It would save them the time and effort, and I'd get to work with the PW team. Hooray for proper English!
Ah, yes, that's right...the second 'per se' was in case four. I played the whole game continiously without much stopping, so the cases have started to merge in my mind.
As for the proofreading, count me in. Let's go and propose ourselves to Capcom immediately, before it's too late and they release Trials and Tribulations hurriedly without time to check over their work! RUN to Osaka!
And I agree, the typoes WERE really obvious. It's not like I was looking for them, in fact I was trying to ignore them, but they stuck out so badly.
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(But I'm a really good thunker.) XD If only he had said it out loud.
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There definitely were some typos that made me raised my eyebrows - and a lot of people said that they were simple mistakes that a couple of quick proofread could have fixed them. I, too, think that could be done - but that wasn't done. Which made me question the number of editing/proofread sessions they had - I honestly think that they were push for time and didn't even get a chance to edit their works. A lot of these mistakes were preventable - that is if they had an extra session or two to go through them. Even though CoA mentioned that they finished the localisation before the expected date - I do somewhat doubt that statement.
In regards to "Me and the Victim" - I think it's probably just the speech style Phoenix possessed when he was younger. I think it made him sound younger and more carefree - unlike the older Phoenix that we were familiar with, his composure and speech were more "mature" and formal.
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oh, and there was a "you're name is..." too, when it should've obviously been "your."
lol, typo hunt?
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Plankton614 wrote:
There was at least one "half" in place of "have"; the one coming to mind is in 2-4 during the second trial day (if memory serves).
I remember that typo in one of Gumshoe's lines at Wright and Co.
Defenitely more typos that Ace Attorney....
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It just has more typos, that's all. There's a bit of a difference.
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Rookie_Crusher wrote:
I remember that typo in one of Gumshoe's lines at Wright and Co.
Ohh, I believe you are correct, sir! Thanks.
The half/have was a killer, and I'm so peeved by your/you're and there/their/they're. Hate the typos, not the game.
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And even then, proofreading can still lead to overlooked problems, especially if electronic assistance (i.e., Spellcheck) is used. Not everyone is perfect, and for such a small title I wouldn't be surprised if they just had one or two people spellcheck the whole game.
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With that being said - not that I think they can't do a better job, I think they could, but I'd stick with what I said previously... I doubt they have as much time as they claimed with the project... Which would contribute to the reason why there were those silly, but preventable mistakes.
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But yeah, I agree. it must be pretty nerve wracking to sit and translate a text-based game about lawyers while on a tight schedule.
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Typographical errors were more abundant in JFA than in AA, true, but there is one error that's worth more laughs than anything.
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In regards to the "sliver" and "silver" bit - does anyone actually have the full sentence? I want to see the full sentence since I might have missed it during the game...
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Don't forget how Franny was constantly referred to as "Sir".
I agree with chikori on that one. It's really just Gumshoe submitting to authority. The title "sir" just speaks to Franziska's overwhelmingly assertive nature, which is of such a degree that it evokes a traditionally masculine sense of power and domination.
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Tinker wrote:
If you have a female officer in a police force who's a rank above you, you call her "sir" too. It's not gender-based.
That's right, I heard it's the same in the military too.
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