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I was replaying JFA and I noticed something unusual that I must have missed during my 2 playthroughs before... I just now noticed that Ben's mouth moves while Trilo is talking... it's barely noticeable because it move like 1 pixel...

http://www.court-records.net/animations/aa-bentrilo.htm

Just look closely at Ben's mouth on the 2nd and 4th animation...

Did anyone else notice? (hoping not to be the only one out of the loop... :oops: )
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Only noticed now? :redd:
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DarzieP wrote:
Only noticed now? :redd:

Err.. yes... apparently I'm not fastest conveyor belt in the lunch land factory... :oops:
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Wow! i never notcied that! Thats awesome! XD
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Wow, once you realise it's happening its so much more noticable. @_@.
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I can see it in the 2nd animation but not the 4th. And everyone knows what that means.....THERE IS A POSSIBILITY BEN LIKES REGINA!
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I....saw that the first time I played. :payne:
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I only noticed it when he said "PAIN!!!!!!!!!" and "MORE PAIN!!!!!!!!!"
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Hands off regina ben, unless you want another bottle over yo head!

XD! Yoy're right. Althoug I can only see it in the second animation.

EDIT: And the fourth.
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Lol, yeah I noticed on my 1st play through :P

I think it's a great touch of realism :D
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GodotFan23 wrote:
I only noticed it when he said "PAIN!!!!!!!!!" and "MORE PAIN!!!!!!!!!"


That's because he used his regular talking animation there. D:}
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Oh, right! NOW I see what you meant!
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I only noticed that about the 4th time I played through it! It made me laugh a bit! :edgy:
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I noticed second play through. It made me very happy that Moe was wrong.

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Really?? I never noticed it... cool beans :D
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Ha ha ha I also noticed that when Trilo talks to Ben and punches him, Ben's mouth doesn't move then.
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I noticed that the first time he had trilo
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I noticed the first time too, i take some time looking to the sprites when they're talking. That makes me more "in". :lunches:
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I'm pretty sure I noticed it first playthrough, when I was staring at the sprite, thinking,
'Oh God, how did they invent a character THIS annoying?'
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I, too, noticed it on the first playthrough. I felt pretty proud of myself for it, for some stupid reason.
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I can't see it. 0_o Maybe him blinking is playing a trick on your eyes? Or maybe I just can't see one pixel moving. -_-
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I still can't see it *fails*

EDIT: *found it*
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Actually I noticed it before...I was thinking "wow...two personalities eh?"
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Guilty of noticing first time around!

Reason being, I <3 Ben :bellboy: He's...very adorable.

That, and Trilo scares me, so I just look at Ben.
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I noticed it also on my third play-through.

For me, it explains everything because I always didnt really know how it all worked with the ben/trilo happening ^_^"

yay, I finally understand :D
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LOL! I barely noticed it now when you said it...awesome ^^; thanks for telling me! :]...I find Ben really strange...why would he use his own puppet to abuse himself? He's an odd character imo o_O; I really thought Trilo was alive unitl you mentioned that...*feels stupid* xD! If they're both the same person (Trilo and Ben), then I like his quiet personality more... :meekins:
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Hmm, well, now that you mention it, That's an awesome bit of "Real" they slipped in there.
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I didn't notice 'till my friend told me... :sadshoe:
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I may or may not have noticed it in the first few, but seeing Ben again made me smile.

I was one of the few who liked him, so it seems. XD
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Umm, actually there's three of him talking while trilo is...if you haven't noticed
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I had a feeling he did, but I never saw it.

After all, why does he need to turn his head if Trillo talks?
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Wow I hadn't noticed that! I had thought that Ben was a little strange, but until now I thought that he didn't move at all! Hehe I love how the designers throw in that stuff
(You know it's kinda like
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I only noticed this when I play JFA the second time.

It really makes me think. At first, Ben seems shy and nervous, always taking the back seat to some jackass puppet. If you think of Ben and Trilo as one person, you see that Ben is the true jackass in all of this. He can be a total jerk and everyone gets mad at a puppet.

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I only noticed this when I play JFA the second time.

It really makes me think. At first, Ben seems shy and nervous, always taking the back seat to some jackass puppet. If you think of Ben and Trilo as one person, you see that Ben is the true jackass in all of this. He can be a total jerk and everyone gets mad at a puppet.

:ben: = Genius


Oh man, I know, right? I love this. It just works so well with his problems. Can't talk well normally due to both speech impediment and low self esteem? This way he can say pretty much whatever he wants, without screwing up his talking, with very few repercussions (bar max smacking him, but that's only because he's the only one not fooled [and only because he's a magician and lives illusions: he knows tricks when he sees them]) and he can still be thought of (or consider himself) a good person. It fits too, cause he's just so adorably avoidant. Apart from being screwed up, he's got a pretty sweet deal (freedom of speech without responsibility? fuck yeah). It only works, though, because he is actually seriously good at what he does. If he wasn't, people would just go wtf it's you, not the puppet, get out. But no, even in court when Trilo was like (totally paraphrasing here hurr) 'I was watching with 4 eyes you morans' nobody actually thought about it enough go to 'hey wait no you weren't, two of those eyes don't even work cause they're a puppets' so they basically just accepted him as a seperate sentient being (and really, that is pretty much the whole of ventriloquism).

in conclusion, yes I think way too hard about these things. I could even go on but I think I'll spare everyone from fangirl ramblings.
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In the end, I could totally see :ben: as a murderer down the roat, hopefully the cops wouldn't believe him when he said that Trillo Did it though.
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I noticed it the second time I played it
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I noticed that the first time I played the case. It was because I realised that Ben looks away every time Trilo talks, which I figured was so no-one (as in chracters in the game) would notice him talk. I don't think his mouth moves in that sprite with Ben and Trilo looking at each other, though.
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To tell you the truth, the first time I played through the case, I actually thought that Ben and Trilo were separate people.
O.o ............ what? If spirit mediums exist, then...
I dunno, I guess Ben's just too much of a genius. I mean, his little "I-I-I-I c-can't t-t-talk sssso well..." act is really convincing to me and when Trilo suddenly popped up, I'm like, "OHMEGEE!"

erm yea.... <_< >_> am I the only one who felt that they were different? *feels awkward*
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@Jade: Me too :payne: It was hard to convince myself they're just one person... until I saw this thread. XD I never really realized his mouth moving, I was too distracted by his annoying character XD
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Jade wrote:
Wow I hadn't noticed that! I had thought that Ben was a little strange, but until now I thought that he didn't move at all! Hehe I love how the designers throw in that stuff
(You know it's kinda like
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When Trucy takes out Mr. Hat (I can't remember if this only happens when she's little, but...) you can see her arm moving slightly under her cape when Mr. Hat is talking :minuki:

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Yeah, and she looks to her left too (this does not seem to be reflected in the CR colection of animated gifs, but it might just be little Trucy)... However, her mouth does not move, making a 15 year old girl who Specializes in magic better then at Ben’s job then Ben.

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