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This is sort of a spin off thread of the "Greatest Murder Schemes" thread. Who, in your opinion would've gotten away with their crimes (or at the least hold out the longest/get charged with a lesser crime), if there were few external factors involved (most notably Mia being channeled via Pearl/Maya)?

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1-1: Still guilty
1-2: Possibly get a full acquittal or at the most charged with something "petty" compared to murder
1-3: Still "guilty"
1-4: Probably would've gotten away with both crimes
1-5: Probably gotten away with both crimes, or at the most hold off from being a suspect for the Goodman murder until much later on

JFA
2-1: Still guilty
2-2: Possibly guilty, but as Ini
2-3: Still guilty
2-4: Probably would've (eventually) still be a suspect (and have a possible connection w/ De Killer) regardless of Adrian's tampering. [looking back, it did seem rather odd that a ransom was for an acquittal of the client]

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3-1: Still guilty
3-2: Still guilty
3-3: Probably gotten away with it
3-4: :chinami: got away with it
3-5: If he didn't speak up, he would've gotten away with it
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two people in my eyes would have gotten away with it.
red white- without mia there, phoenix would have lost.

don tigre- I don't know why, but i always thought 3-3 was a perfect crime. they recreated the whole murder to make a witness to their "ideal crime". if glen had just had the ear peice in the other ear, he might have gotten away with it.
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3-2: Still guilty

How on earth would Luke have still been found guilty? Phoenix didn't have anything on him as far as the urn theft until Dessie brought it into court, and there was absolutely no evidence he had been at KB Security that night; Mia stepping in at the last second and demanding testimony on Luke's remarks about Ron is all that linked him to the murder.
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Franzise Deuxnim wrote:
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3-2: Still guilty

How on earth would Luke have still been found guilty? Phoenix didn't have anything on him as far as the urn theft until Dessie brought it into court, and there was absolutely no evidence he had been at KB Security that night; Mia stepping in at the last second and demanding testimony on Luke's remarks about Ron is all that linked him to the murder.


Actually, even then he would have passed clear under the radar. The only reason he was found guilty is because he just had to yap about Ron being in costume. Otherwise, he'd have committed the perfect crime.

1-1: Sahwit would have gotten away if Phoenix didn't have Mia at his side.
1-2: Refer to 1-1. However, it was only because Edgeworth piped at the last minute.
1-3: If Edgeworth hadn't intervened, yes.
1-4: The criminal fessed up. Nothing to see here.
1-5: Phoenix was plotting against Gant the whole time. There was not way he could escape.

2-1: Unclear. On one hand, there was no evidence Wellington had been at the crime scene. Then again, he did have the wrong phone. If he had used that around someone, he might have become suspect.
2-2: Mimi was screwed from the beginning.
2-3: Acro would have gotten away if Maya hadn't spoken up.
2-4: Yes, if he had less balls and didn't decide to blackmail Shelly.

3-1: Mia has brains. No way Dahlia could escape her wrath.
3-2: As I said before, there was no evidence. No evidence = no crime. Luke shot himself in the foot
3-3: Tigre let his guard down. Otherwise, he would have been clean.
3-4: She got off the hook anyway. =/
3-5: If Edgeworth and Franziska hadn't staged that trial, who knows what might have happened? I'm not mentioning Godot because he's not the true villain of T&T.

Notice how all the criminals who would have escaped clean are the ones that erased the evidence and are also the ones that slipped up or got tricked by Phoenix.
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I would agree that :inspect: would have gotten away with the crime - he was so close.
:bling-bling: Would have definitely gotten away with it...I mean c'mon, he managed to pin the crime onto Phoenix and literally almost got out of the case even with all the evidence and contradictions.
:gant: and :karma: would have probably gotten away with their crimes too...they're just way too hardcore.
As for :spit: ...he did dig his own grave in 3-5, although he probably wanted to anyway...
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Redd would've gotten away with it, no doubt. Heck, he could've stayed home that day, and no one would've been able to call him to the stand then!

Luke... Yeah, he could've as well. He messed up at the end of the trial.

Dee Vasquez as well. It sounds weird, sure... but she could've just killed Gumshoe as well, IMO, I mean, she has ties to the mafia!!!

Ron DeLite DID get away with being Mask DeMasque (I don't have the star)... so.... yeah.

Anyways... Furio could've gotten away, assuming Godot or the Judge spoke up... but he had enough suspicion anyways, with the badge and all...

Gant could've totally gotten away. I mean, not only did he have the skill, but as a friend of the Judge, he could've convinced him!

Manfred von Karma... yeah, he could've gotten away. From at least the second one. If Edgeworth never said anything.

Sahwit... Nah. No way could he have gotten away. Either he spoke up about Larry, or he'd be arrested anyways.

Wellington couldn't have gotten away. He was the reason that Maggey wasn't immediately convicted anyways...

Dahlia... I have no clue. From the first one... no way. She was, again, the reason it continued. However, she got away with the Fawles incident (although I think Diego was onto her...)

Engarde could've gotten away, assuming Phoenix was willing to risk Maya, of course... Or assuming he just didn't do anything... or finally, assuming Adrian never took the card (because they don't try getting anyone otherwise, since they know who would've killed the person)

De Killer has gotten away from many crimes... but I think that the police would've used the tape to see his identity... he'd still flee.

Acro couldn't have gotten away. He was the one who basically said "I dare you to tell me where the bust is", so Phoenix told him. Besides, the guilt would've caught up with him eventually.

Ini... Nah. Same with Morgan. They both conspired to the killing. If Ini was going to be tried, she would take Morgan down with her, methinks.

And Godot?... No. He wanted to be caught. Granted, if he simply let the Judge consider Dahlia's passing as the end of the trial, sure... but it wouldn't have worked. Here's the question: Iris was on trial, yet at that point, she would've been found undeniably innocent, so... what would've happened???
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It probably would have gone unsolved (in regards to 3-5). Because Iris couldn't have done it, Maya and "Dahlia"/Misty fell (Misty dead), and Godot was not proven to be there at the time.
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They all would've gotten away with it, if it weren't for those meddling kids!
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...Yep, I was waiting for that to be said ._.
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Well I said it! :D
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I...noticed :P
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ShyTenda wrote:
They all would've gotten away with it, if it weren't for those meddling kids!


And that dog! :missle:
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Wrestlemania wrote:
Dee Vasquez as well. It sounds weird, sure... but she could've just killed Gumshoe as well, IMO, I mean, she has ties to the mafia!!!


Gumshoe, while being the only one you see at crime scenes, has a whole investigation force behind him. He wasn't alone ;)
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Wrestlemania wrote:
Wellington couldn't have gotten away. He was the reason that Maggey wasn't immediately convicted anyways...


I thought he was the reason that Maggey didn't immediately get a 'Not Guilty' verdict (through Phoenix's demolition of Gumshoe's testimonies).

I think Sahwit would've gotten away with it if he hadn't testified against Larry seeing as there's no direct evidence (fingerprints etc) leading to his involvement in Cindy's death. (Then again, I didn't buy the 'Larry did it' scenario either, for exactly the same reason)

I believe Dee DID get away with it (Self-Defense and all that...). I think that her actions (although I don't condone them) were justified.
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NinjaMonkey wrote:
I think Sahwit would've gotten away with it if he hadn't testified against Larry seeing as there's no direct evidence (fingerprints etc) leading to his involvement in Cindy's death. (Then again, I didn't buy the 'Larry did it' scenario either, for exactly the same reason)

Larry wouldn't have even been accused if Sahwit hadn't testified to seeing him at Cindy's apartment. Payne didn't have anything on Larry whatsoever.
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To Tinker:

Maybe so, but you think that the police would ever try to investigate someone in cahoots with the Mob itself?... well, Maybe Meekins...

To NinjaMonkey:

Recall why the trial continued after the left-handed issue was resolved. Payne called up Wellington before the trial could be stopped.
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Wrestlemania wrote:
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Maybe so, but you think that the police would ever try to investigate someone in cahoots with the Mob itself?


Yes. They are enforcers of justice for a reason, y'know.
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:yani-fist: I would've gotten away with it if it werent for those meddling lawyers and their dog!

:missle: Rooby-Rooby-Roo!

:oops: :edgy: :maya: :udgy: Ha ha ha ha ha!
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Walkie Talkie Man wrote:
Wrestlemania wrote:
To Tinker:

Maybe so, but you think that the police would ever try to investigate someone in cahoots with the Mob itself?


Yes. They are enforcers of justice for a reason, y'know.


If that's so, then why is Viola not imprisoned at the end of 3-3? She DID work with Furio, as stated in a couple testimonies.
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The Cadaverinni family has far more pull in the government than Vasquez' group of thugs.
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Granted, we have no clue if they are even connected, kind've like Wellington as well. We have no idea what mafia is connected to whom.
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