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IF YOU HAVE NOT COMPLETED GS3, LEAVE!
Just a warning.

Anyways, I loved 3-5 and it is definately one of the best cases in the series (after 1-4 and 2-4, but close.) However, I felt that it was somewhat mishandled, especially in terms of the flashbacks. 3-1 and 3-4 were mercilessly ripped from it for no good reason. Do you agree or disagree that it could have been far better? And how would you rearrange it? I said where more investigation should go, so think of it as both rearranging and adding to the case. Here's how I would do it:

It would be seperated into multiple parts, each listed seperately on the loading screen. A new tutorial would have to be made, I suppose. Maybe it could involve :grossburg: to introduce the character.

PART 1:
This would essentially be 3-1, just harder and without the tutorial. However, it would include the first investigation sequence of 3-5 with Phoenix, ending with his fall. Maybe Mia should just be alone in the trial, as Grossburg is a pain in the lemon-smelling hemmeroids. It would be fun to see Payne as a young guy AFTER having seen him as :payne: in the new 3-1.

PART 2:
:edgeworth: :jazzedgy: :wacky-edgy: ! Can you guess what this part is? After Edgey's trial sequence, though, he should go meet Iris as part of a mini-investigation. He suddenly recognizes her and demands to know her relasionship with "Melissa Foster" (she won't answer, of course). You will then have the 3-4 case, as narrated by him (you still play as Mia, who will narrate the actual case). Could his age PLEASE be corrected?!? And seeing 13-year-old Franny as the prosecution aid (chronalogically this is around when her first case must be) would just redefine cool. After the case, he will explain that he was so upset, he decided to stop prosecuting until SL-9 (his first "major" case, remember? This could fix that inconsistancy). It then moves on to a NEW investigation sequence, where you play as Mia investigating :javado: 's death. You should meet his doctor (not :hotti: !) who will explain his comatose-but-alive condition. You will meet with young Edgey, Doug, Feenie, Dahliris (the one dating Feenie), and Grossburg. (Maybe Hammond too...that would be cool). You will recive clues to Dahliris's identity, as that should be more than an Easter Egg at the end. It will end with the part 1 (3-1) intro sequence playing (which would have already played and so would show Doug's death. As the last part of the investigation, you will play as modern-day Phoenix in a short sequence where he meets the aformentioned :javado: 's doctor (at Hotti clinic where he is), and finds out that :javado: is alive and well...

PART 3:
The rest. I thought that the other trial sequences without Edgey felt detached though, so I think that Franny should be the Prosecution aid (13 vs. 19 year old :franny: would HAVE to be awesome) and that you should get to talk to Edgey more. Maybe he could be prosecuting :zenitora: 's case with :bro: as the judge, to explain where he went. And it wouldbe a nice parrallel to 3-3.

Does anybody like my ideas? Could 3-5 have been far better? Well the second-biggest case in the series (after 2-4 if you don't count either flashback) now has a thread!
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...That sounds really confusing. I thought 3-5 was long enough without jamming 3-1 and 3-4 into it just because they all revolved around the same character.

Besides, cases are divided up by trials, not storyline.
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It's just fine how it is.
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I personally would have liked 3-4 in 3-5, but the emotional impact of
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:godot: = :javado:
wou'dn't be the same.

I thought 3-1 was fine the way it was...

As for 3-5 itself, I wanted to cross-examine Pearl, as well as play as either Maya or Pearl (maybe even
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Godot, but we don't know who he is)
while trapped.

Oh, and I wanted Age, Regret, Reward to play, at least once during the game!
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One thing I would change is add at least 1 investigation to 3-4.

Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
Besides, cases are divided up by trials, not storyline.


3-2
Jesus is Lord.

Death Note is awesome.

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They were closely related enough to go together.
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And so were 3-1, 3-4 and 3-5. :edgeworth: Pwned by your own argument :taser:
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Uh, no.

3-2 part 1 was State vs. Ron DeLite for the theft of the Sacred Urn. The fact that he as proven innocent in that case directly allowed Godot to accuse him of murdering Kane Bullard, leading to State vs. Ron DeLite 2. Even then, the Sacred Urn theft played heavily into the resolution of the second trial.

3-1 was State vs. Phoenix Wright for the murder of Doug Swallow. Dahlia killed Doug because he tried telling Phoenix about the poison and she was afraid he would go to the police.

3-4 was State vs. Terry Fawles for the murder of Valerie Hawthorne. Dahlia killed Valerie because she was going to spill the beans about the faked kidnapping.

3-5 was State vs. Iris for the murder of Elise Deauxnim. Dahlia killed...uh, well, she didn't kill anybody, but she tried to kill Maya out of vengence against the person that ruined her life.

The only constant between 3-1, 3-4, and 3-5 as far as the trials go is that Dahlia was involved in each.

Besides, those trials were years apart. The second trial in 3-2 took place the very next day.
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Mia and Diego were also involved in all three (remember, Diego was the victim of 3-1, ALONG with Doug. Dahlia was only caught when she was proven to have killed Diego). And, thanks to flashbacks, it doesn't matter how many years away it was. The motive for 3-1 was 3-4, the motive for 3-5 was 3-1. They are just as connected as the parts of 3-2. And the stuff in 3-1 and 3-4 were extremely important to the resolution to 3-5.
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Okay, let me try phrasing this another way.

You don't NEED to know what happened in 3-1 or 3-4 to "solve" 3-5, or any other combination of those three cases. It's NICE to know what happened so you can understand and appreciate the entire story, but as far as the trials are concerned, they're completely seperate.

In 3-2, you CANNOT "solve" the second trial without knowing what happened in the first trial.

By your logic, 1-1, 1-2, 1-4, 2-2, 3-1, 3-4, and 3-5 should all be one case, as should the entire game of Apollo Justice.
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