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The OFFICIAL 3-4 Confuses the hell out of me threadTopic%20Title
OfflineProsecutor Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:59 am
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Okay, I can pretty much play straight through all the games without a single mistake. With the sole exception of Case 3-4 (Turnabout Beginnings). I always have a problem with some of Gumshoe's testimony and I draw a complete blank on one of Dahlia's (I think it was when we were establishing a motive). I replayed it about 3 hrs. ago. I made 4 mistakes. 3 were on Dahlia, and the other one was an accident when I hit the wrong button.
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Re: The OFFICIAL 3-4 Confuses the hell out of me threadTopic%20Title
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Huh. I thought 3-2 was more confusing. I didn't have much trouble with 3-4. I think I was too caught up with Diego to be confused by anything. :edgy:
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Re: The OFFICIAL 3-4 Confuses the hell out of me threadTopic%20Title
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Well, this seems to be an appropriate place to share my thought on a particular testimony from this case.

Spoiler: 3-4
I believe it's Dahlia's second testimony after the recess. The one where she talks about the kidnapping. You're supposed to present the map of the bridge to the statement that Terry pushed her from behind. Mia says that that's a contradiction because she would wind up being pushed towards the broken part of the bridge and wind up dead on the rocks (oh bummer, right?).
I cannot for the life of me make this make sense in my head.
Dahlia and Terry were standing facing Valerie on the bridge. If Terry pushed Dahlia in the back, she would be pushed forward. Towards Valerie. In the flashback images, Terry and Dahlia are shown as being closer to the broken side of the bridge, so if she's pushed from behind, she'd be pushed... away from the broken part of the bridge.

Where is this supposed contradiction??

Now that I've ranted, I'm sure someone is going to point out something very obvious that I've missed. Go right ahead. I'm tired of being bewildered.
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Re: The OFFICIAL 3-4 Confuses the hell out of me threadTopic%20Title
OfflineDesk Jockey Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:34 pm
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WallofIllusion wrote:
Well, this seems to be an appropriate place to share my thought on a particular testimony from this case.

Spoiler: 3-4
I believe it's Dahlia's second testimony after the recess. The one where she talks about the kidnapping. You're supposed to present the map of the bridge to the statement that Terry pushed her from behind. Mia says that that's a contradiction because she would wind up being pushed towards the broken part of the bridge and wind up dead on the rocks (oh bummer, right?).
I cannot for the life of me make this make sense in my head.
Dahlia and Terry were standing facing Valerie on the bridge. If Terry pushed Dahlia in the back, she would be pushed forward. Towards Valerie. In the flashback images, Terry and Dahlia are shown as being closer to the broken side of the bridge, so if she's pushed from behind, she'd be pushed... away from the broken part of the bridge.

Where is this supposed contradiction??

Now that I've ranted, I'm sure someone is going to point out something very obvious that I've missed. Go right ahead. I'm tired of being bewildered.


Hmm...

That testimony sounds very familiar, and I don't think it had anything to do with the kidnapping part.

I think it was when it was just Valerie and Terry on the bridge, before she was killed. Valerie was by the broken part of the bridge, and if she was pushed she'd land on the rocks.

I've only played 3-4 once and it was a while ago, so I may be wrong. o__o
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Re: The OFFICIAL 3-4 Confuses the hell out of me threadTopic%20Title
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vio55 wrote:
WallofIllusion wrote:
Well, this seems to be an appropriate place to share my thought on a particular testimony from this case.

Spoiler: 3-4
I believe it's Dahlia's second testimony after the recess. The one where she talks about the kidnapping. You're supposed to present the map of the bridge to the statement that Terry pushed her from behind. Mia says that that's a contradiction because she would wind up being pushed towards the broken part of the bridge and wind up dead on the rocks (oh bummer, right?).
I cannot for the life of me make this make sense in my head.
Dahlia and Terry were standing facing Valerie on the bridge. If Terry pushed Dahlia in the back, she would be pushed forward. Towards Valerie. In the flashback images, Terry and Dahlia are shown as being closer to the broken side of the bridge, so if she's pushed from behind, she'd be pushed... away from the broken part of the bridge.

Where is this supposed contradiction??

Now that I've ranted, I'm sure someone is going to point out something very obvious that I've missed. Go right ahead. I'm tired of being bewildered.


Hmm...

That testimony sounds very familiar, and I don't think it had anything to do with the kidnapping part.

I think it was when it was just Valerie and Terry on the bridge, before she was killed. Valerie was by the broken part of the bridge, and if she was pushed she'd land on the rocks.

I've only played 3-4 once and it was a while ago, so I may be wrong. o__o


Nope, it's definitely the kidnapping.
Spoiler: 3-4
Because then it proves that Dahlia jumped, rather than being pushed, so the kidnapping was faked.
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Re: The OFFICIAL 3-4 Confuses the hell out of me threadTopic%20Title
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WallofIllusion wrote:
Well, this seems to be an appropriate place to share my thought on a particular testimony from this case.

Spoiler: 3-4
I believe it's Dahlia's second testimony after the recess. The one where she talks about the kidnapping. You're supposed to present the map of the bridge to the statement that Terry pushed her from behind. Mia says that that's a contradiction because she would wind up being pushed towards the broken part of the bridge and wind up dead on the rocks (oh bummer, right?).
I cannot for the life of me make this make sense in my head.
Dahlia and Terry were standing facing Valerie on the bridge. If Terry pushed Dahlia in the back, she would be pushed forward. Towards Valerie. In the flashback images, Terry and Dahlia are shown as being closer to the broken side of the bridge, so if she's pushed from behind, she'd be pushed... away from the broken part of the bridge.

Where is this supposed contradiction??

Now that I've ranted, I'm sure someone is going to point out something very obvious that I've missed. Go right ahead. I'm tired of being bewildered.


I don't think they ever said that she was pushed from behind, just pushed off the bridge.
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Re: The OFFICIAL 3-4 Confuses the hell out of me threadTopic%20Title
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WallofIllusion wrote:
Well, this seems to be an appropriate place to share my thought on a particular testimony from this case.

Spoiler: 3-4
I believe it's Dahlia's second testimony after the recess. The one where she talks about the kidnapping. You're supposed to present the map of the bridge to the statement that Terry pushed her from behind. Mia says that that's a contradiction because she would wind up being pushed towards the broken part of the bridge and wind up dead on the rocks (oh bummer, right?).
I cannot for the life of me make this make sense in my head.
Dahlia and Terry were standing facing Valerie on the bridge. If Terry pushed Dahlia in the back, she would be pushed forward. Towards Valerie. In the flashback images, Terry and Dahlia are shown as being closer to the broken side of the bridge, so if she's pushed from behind, she'd be pushed... away from the broken part of the bridge.

Where is this supposed contradiction??

Now that I've ranted, I'm sure someone is going to point out something very obvious that I've missed. Go right ahead. I'm tired of being bewildered.


Spoiler:
I don't think they said that he pushed her in the back, just pushed her back, which would make her fall through the hole in the bridge. At least, that's how I remember it. I could be wrong though.
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Re: The OFFICIAL 3-4 Confuses the hell out of me threadTopic%20Title
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Guys, you don't need spoiler tags for this topic.

And Dahlia (who lied anyway) said she was shoved from behind. Edgeworth could easily have said the defendant (Mr. Fawles) turned around to push her off. Valerie still would've shot Terry in the arm and nothing would change. Therefore this contradiction is very minor and explanable.
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Re: The OFFICIAL 3-4 Confuses the hell out of me threadTopic%20Title
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Technically it doesn't have a spoiler warning in the title, so... *shrug* I was just being safe.

...So, anyway, upon reading part of the script, I have come to feel INCREDIBLY. STUPID.
When pressed on that statement, Dahlia says that she turned to run and Terry turned to chase her. Soo what she says does create a contradiction. I am so sorry. -goes into a corner and dies of shame-
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*skims through topic*
*eats a Sweetart*
Now that I think on it, it didn't confuse me because I was thinking up ways to strangle young Edgeworth.
And hoping he wasn't a main character who would show up again.
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T&T was my first PW game.
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I found the whole game confusing, but that's because I'm an idiot who can't figure anything out, ever.

Also, Terry is totally a time-traveling caveman.
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Re: The OFFICIAL 3-4 Confuses the hell out of me threadTopic%20Title
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I screamed when he first chewed on the ball. And when I first saw Armstrong, but that's a given.
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3-4 always seemed pretty straight forward to me... Could you include possible examples of difficult parts? :think:
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