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We all know that when you present a wrong piece of evidence, the Judge will say the evidence is wrong and you will receive a penalty but the sentences vary each time.

I'm not sure how it worked in PW1 and 2 but in PW3, there are 14 Penalty Statements. I found this is out thanks to the script that was ripped by 'The Thinker'.

Now when you present a wrong piece of evidence, the game will randomly pick one of the statements but in a certain way. You guys will have to confirm this to make sure I got this right by the way as I'm not played Case 4 and 5 let. They will need double checking as well so let me know of any errors that have been put.


Anyway, 4/14 of the Statements are used when you play as Phoenix Wright. You will have noticed that Older Judge (the one from the previous two games) is always the Judge for Phoenix's case. Ever wondered why the Older Judge was in charge of Case 5 Part 2 Trial? It was so Capcom didn't have to make any more extra statements. XD

Anyway, these are the Penalty Statements when Phoenix Wright presents the wrong evidence.

Spoiler: Phoenix's Penalty Statements
Phoenix
Your Honor! That statement
contradicts this evidence!

Judge
It does? I don't see
anything contradictory...

Phoenix
Huh? Really?

Judge
Objection denied.

Judge
Try to think before you make
accusations, Mr. Wright!

Phoenix
(Whoops!
That didn't go so well.)


Phoenix
The witness's statement is
clearly faulty, Your Honor!

Judge
...

Judge
I'm sorry, but I can
see nothing faulty.

Judge
Unfortunately, I will have
to penalize you, Mr. Wright.

Phoenix
(Ugh, I must be on
the wrong track...?)


Phoenix
This evidence clearly reveals
the contradiction in that
statement, Your Honor!

Judge
How exactly are the
evidence and the statement
just now related?

Phoenix
They aren't, are they...

Judge
Not at all.

Judge
Mr. Wright, please think
the facts over before
making accusations.

Phoenix
(I don't think that won me
any points with the judge...)


Phoenix
Your Honor! What do you think
about the witness's statement?

Judge
Uh... I'm not sure
I follow you.

Phoenix
It clearly, er, contradicts
the... um... I thought...

Judge
You don't sound very
sure, Mr. Wright.

Judge
Objection denied.

Phoenix
(I don't think that won me
any points with the judge...)



Now Mia Fey unlike poor Phoenix has seven penalty statements. But don't forget that Mia gets to VS both Older and Younger Judge. From my memory of playing Case 1, 4/14 are used during Case 1 and 3/14 and used during Case 4. At least Capcom could be bothered to make the Younger Judge use separate Penalty Statements.

Spoiler: Mia's Penalty Statements Case 1
Mia
Your Honor! What do you think
of the witness's statement!?

Judge
Hmm...
I don't really see any
problem with it.

Mia
...
Actually...
I don't either.

Judge
Well then what are
you making a fuss for!?

Judge
Think before you speak,
young lady!

Mia
(Looks like you missed
the mark on that one,
Mia!)


Mia
Your Honor! That statement
contradicts this evidence!

Judge
In what way...?
I'm not sure I understand.

Mia
Actually...
I don't quite get it either.

Judge
Well, make sure you do
before you speak out
again!

Mia
(Aghh... He's mad at me now.
But you can't give up yet,
Mia!)


Mia
Does this evidence establish
that the defendant is lying?

Judge
D-Don't ask me!
You're the one who's
supposed to know!

Mia
Oops, sorry.
This is all still kind of
new to me...

Judge
Well, I've got something new
for you, too -- a new penalty!

Mia
(This isn't going as smoothly
as I had hoped...)


Mia
The witness's testimony just
now is clearly contradictory,
Your Honor!

Judge
It could be...

Mia
It has to be, right!?
I knew it!

Judge
However, your evidence doesn't
show whatever contradiction
you think you see.

Mia
Um...

Judge
Objection denied.
Try to think it over again.

Mia
(Well, there goes a few points
with the Judge...)

Spoiler: Mia's Penalty Statements Case 4
Mia
Your Honor! What do you think
of the witness's statement!?

Judge
I don't think anything of it.
How about you?

Mia
...
I guess I don't think anything
of it either...

Judge
Then we don't have a problem.
But, we do have a penalty.

Mia
(If there wasn't a problem,
couldn't he just let it
slide...?)


Mia
Your Honor! That statement
contradicts this evidence!

Judge
I'm sorry, but...

Judge
I think the only thing out of
place here is that pointer
finger of yours.

Mia
...

Mia
That could very well be...

Judge
Here, take this penalty and
try thinking things through
again.

Mia
(What's the problem!?
Pointer fingers are made
for pointing!)


Mia
This evidence establishes
the defendant is lying,

Judge
Don't ask me to confirm
your facts!

Mia
This is my first
time handling a case...

Judge
Well, let's make it a
memorable occasion...

Mia
(And here I thought he would
go easy on me because I'm
new...)



Finally, we have Miles Edgeworth who only uses 3/14 Penalty Statements. Come on Capcom, you could have given him 4 instead of 3. But enough of my complaining. Don't forget Edgeworth is talking with the Younger Judge.

Spoiler: Miles's Penalty Statements
Miles
That statement contradicts the
data provided by this piece of
evidence!

Judge
It does?
How do you mean?

Miles
Forgive me, Your Honor,
but you just said it
yourself that it does!

Judge
...

Judge
Don't try to play mind
games with me!

Miles
(Curses... It appears I have
yet to adjust to being on
this side of the courtroom.)


Miles
Your Honor! What do you think
of the witness's statement!?

Judge
I don't think there is
a problem with it.

Miles
Hmph...

Miles
You say that with such gusto
that I suppose I must agree
that is all there is to it.

Judge
Don't get smart with me!
Get smart with this penalty!

Miles
(It would appear that even I
can make mistakes...)


Miles
This evidence clearly reveals
the contradiction in that
statement, Your Honor!

Judge
Unfortunately, I'm afraid I
can't accept that.

Miles
Well done, Your Honor.

Judge
W-What?

Miles
I was only testing you
just now.

Judge
...

Judge
Well, then why don't you try
testing this penalty, too!?

Miles
(It looks like I shouldn't
have spoken in haste...)



Now I also found this in the script that was dumped. Most of it is obvious where they appear but some I have not got a clue.

Spoiler: Other Text
Save cleared stage data
up to this point?

Save game and
suspend play?

Select an episode.

Save failed.

Erase all data and
restore default settings?

A brand new Episode
has been added.

Suspending game.

Load failed.

Saving...
Do not turn power off.


Turnabout Memories
Part 1-1: Trial

Turnabout Memories
Part 1-2: Trial


The Stolen Turnabout
Part 1: Investigation

The Stolen Turnabout
Part 2: Trial

The Stolen Turnabout
Part 3: Investigation

The Stolen Turnabout
Part 4-1: Trial

The Stolen Turnabout
Part 4-2: Trial


Recipe for Turnabout
Part 1: Investigation

Recipe for Turnabout
Part 2: Trial

Recipe for Turnabout
Part 3: Investigation

Recipe for Turnabout
Part 4-1: Trial

Recipe for Turnabout
Part 4-2: Trial


Turnabout Beginnings
Part 1-1: Trial

Turnabout Beginnings
Part 1-2: Trial


Bridge to the Turnabout
Part 1-1: Investigation

Bridge to the Turnabout
Part 1-2: Investigation

Bridge to the Turnabout
Part 2-1: Trial

Bridge to the Turnabout
Part 2-2: Trial

Bridge to the Turnabout
Part 3-1: Investigation

Bridge to the Turnabout
Part 3-2: Investigation

Bridge to the Turnabout
Part 4-1: Trial

Bridge to the Turnabout
Part 4-2: Trial

Bridge to the Turnabout
Part 4-3: Trial


Debug - Trial
Debug - Investigation


No clues here.

There aren't any clues here.

I can't...
take... any more...
Nooooo!
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Debug - Trial
Debug - Investigation

I wanna play that! I guess I should play arround with that hex editor again, huh? :karma:
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Maybe they were planning on adding an extra case. :phoenix:
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Debug - Trial
Debug - Investigation

It's probably just when you use a debugger of some sort, or maybe some codes. If not, somebody should try to find more about this, but I doubt it.

(Maybe you can debug to create a case!)
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