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a) There's no way in heck it could be this guy --->
b) If it was Luke, wouldn't that be kinda obvious? Like a Lupin/Holmes reference...plus, I mean despite all of PW's reality warpiness, his nose behind that mask? HOW?!
c) I was actually suspecting her --->
The whole time, since to me, her need for excitement, money etc. was actually pretty good motivation.Plus I was comparing sprite-heads and MaskXDeMasque's lower mouth graphic is identical to hers.
I'm going to replay that case again and see what happens if I DID say I suspected Mareka as MaskXDeMask...prolly nothing much except Yuusaku making a fit T___T
On the other hand, I considered if Yuusaku really was MaskXDeMasque, he'd do a Matt Engarde 180-psycho-juju thing.
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I never suspected her, actually. Maybe I just don't take hints, but she never seemed the type to be a thief to me.
True, personality-wise I couldn't see her as a thief. But I think they were really pushing her as a red herring throughout the whole case.
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I totally suspected her. But they just bitch you out when you accuse her of being the thief. I thought Atmey being the thief was just too obvious for a PW case.
This was, quite frankly, one of the weakest cases in the PW series, in terms of the case itself. Luckily, the creators gave us some of the best characters for it, so it all balances out.
If you come across an older post of mine, sowwy
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This was, quite frankly, one of the weakest cases in the PW series, in terms of the case itself. Luckily, the creators gave us some of the best characters for it, so it all balances out.
I disagree. The plot twist owns.
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I disagree. The plot twist owns.
I was really glad that they threw that in there. All the way through the first trial day, I was thinking "God, 1-1 was harder then this." Nobody, not even Godot, seemed to be taking it seriously. And that pissed me off. Thats why I was relieved when I found out that, in fact, none of them HAD been taking it seriously. The case itself wasnt really all that challenging anyways, but I'm glad that they at least had the good sense to throw in a murder and some blackmail.
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lifeisagame247 wrote:
I disagree. The plot twist owns.
I was really glad that they threw that in there. All the way through the first trial day, I was thinking "God, 1-1 was harder then this." Nobody, not even Godot, seemed to be taking it seriously. And that pissed me off. Thats why I was relieved when I found out that, in fact, none of them HAD been taking it seriously. The case itself wasnt really all that challenging anyways, but I'm glad that they at least had the good sense to throw in a murder and some blackmail.I agree. The plot twist was fun, and I really liked having a larceny case instead of murder, for once (although, as you said, it was a fairly simple and clear-cut case at first).
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Then they would've been like... a 'lil bandit team *-* (TOO CUTE)
Yeah, Desiree could handle the get-away by outrunning everyone on her bike XDD
Personally, I think the biggest twist is that Ron DID actually manage to make those heists :3 I mean, it's already impressive that he managed to steal the Tear of Emanon, despite hiding his costume right in a trashcan (a la Spiderman tribute?). And despite getting all he plans from Luke, he DID managed to pull them off himself.
I was also surprised that he was apparently a capable security chief (you know, besides the whole company theft thing).
But yeah, this was prolly one of the weaker cases. I mean, the whole 'double jeopardy' line was prolly the silliest set-up in history. For one thing, Luke DIDN'T need the alibi since apparently, linking him to Bullard is hard in the first place. Hell, if he DIDN'T do anything, like sending Ron his blackmail letter, and just KILLED Bullard out-right, wouldn't he be in the clear far more than by faking the theft of a goddamn vase just to give himself the alibi?! Not to mention, he would still be able to get Ron to steal stuff and gut MUH-NAY!
Unless it's about the whole attention-seeking thing, his last hurray and stuff. Otherwise, dumbest-villain-EVA!!
But I'm currently playing Case 3, and I have to say, it's kinda weak too...
Mostly, why doesn't anyone consider that a) Since this customer is a first-timer to Tres Bian, why would Maggey have a bottle of potassium cyanide on-hand at that point of time? b) Not all people hold their coffee cups by the handle. Especially if its a small handle with a flora pattern. I grab it completely around myself, if its not too hot. Remember, the javaccinos are served with COLD water. c) Why is it that the 'missing' evidence was the medication, and NOT the newspaper that was stuck behind the rack?
I haven't finished the case, maybe some of my questions would be answered, but otherwise I could see so many leaps of logic that I'm frustrated playing it =/
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But I'm currently playing Case 3, and I have to say, it's kinda weak too...
I agree. It's only asset is its characters.Byakko wrote:
Mostly, why doesn't anyone consider that a) Since this customer is a first-timer to Tres Bian, why would Maggey have a bottle of potassium cyanide on-hand at that point of time? b) Not all people hold their coffee cups by the handle. Especially if its a small handle with a flora pattern. I grab it completely around myself, if its not too hot. Remember, the javaccinos are served with COLD water. c) Why is it that the 'missing' evidence was the medication, and NOT the newspaper that was stuck behind the rack?
...the only one that I can answer is (b). I dont believe that Glen was wearing gloves, so by fingerprinting the cup (which they undoubtedly would) the police would pick that up. And it isnt mentioned in the Court Record.Granted, this is gumshoe's department, though...
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I haven't finished the case, maybe some of my questions would be answered, but otherwise I could see so many leaps of logic that I'm frustrated playing it =/
Yeah. just wait till you catch the killer. They miss an easy out of the situation that you "corner" them in.In any case, this is getting rather off the topic.
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But anyway, it would have been soooo much more kick-ass if Desiree was MaskxDeMasque T____T;;;
Then again, now that Ron's new career is to be...a superhero...how exactly IS he earning money? A new job, or reward money (can't imagine that'll be much).
He should prolly just sell the rights of his character to the studio Will Powers works at and get them to do a serialized show. Merchandising! Syndication! ROYALTIES!!
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Spoiler: Case 3-1, in case I need to do this.
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EDIT: Is it just me, or do a lot of the cases in T&T seem weaker in terms of drama than the previous games?
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EDIT: Is it just me, or do a lot of the cases in T&T seem weaker in terms of drama than the previous games?
I'd say they feel lazier and not as well-thought out.
The true crowning glory and greatest achievement of the PW series is most definitely the final case of the very first AA. The plot twists, amazing characters, fantastic DS presentation, and overall kick-assness really make it the benchmark for all PW cases.
Since technically PW2 and PW3 are PORTS of the GBA games, I guess I can forgive them for not reaching that level of sophistication since technically they created that case after 2 and 3.
I'm not spoiling GS4 for myself yet with any translation notes, so I'm unclear on whether I feel GS4 is good enough. Although I don't really like the character designs (super hot bishounen is one thing, but for some reason I don't want them to be main characters since it pretty much makes GS4 feel like a sell-out).
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3:1, 3:4 and 3:5 were preferable to me on that score.
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Magmar's Fury wrote:
Spoiler: Case 3-1, in case I need to do this.
Spoiler:
Byakko wrote:
Then again, now that Ron's new career is to be...a superhero...how exactly IS he earning money? A new job, or reward money (can't imagine that'll be much).
He should prolly just sell the rights of his character to the studio Will Powers works at and get them to do a serialized show. Merchandising! Syndication! ROYALTIES!!
He should prolly just sell the rights of his character to the studio Will Powers works at and get them to do a serialized show. Merchandising! Syndication! ROYALTIES!!
If we go by the epilogue, half the robbers he catches probably bought the robbery plans from him. XD
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If we go by the epilogue, half the robbers he catches probably bought the robbery plans from him. XD
I just noticed...Glen Elg doodled MaskDeMasque on his sports paper X3 Complete with a 'bwahahahaha' caption!
I need to get a screenie of that...
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And yeah, the use of double jeopardy in this game was... unlawful :p The rule is that you can't get put on trial for the SAME crime twice, and stealing + murder = not the same thing x_x; And getting put on trial for one theft does not clear you from getting tried for any of your previous offenses, either...
But the game is set in the future and ANYTHING can happen, scientifically speaking!
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And yeah, the use of double jeopardy in this game was... unlawful :p The rule is that you can't get put on trial for the SAME crime twice, and stealing + murder = not the same thing x_x; And getting put on trial for one theft does not clear you from getting tried for any of your previous offenses, either...
Actually, I think Luke was using it (not really) in a such way if he was convicted for theft, the rules of logic would mean that he JUST couldn't have murdered Bullard.
If they explained it like this, I get it, but they went on with the 'double jeopardy' thing that didn't make sense, since they COULD ask for a re-trial because in light of the new evidence, the previous trial can be considered a mistrial anyway.
And Ron gets off the hook for no apparent reason, so yeah, that case was just all-rounds WRONG.
But Ron got free, so I'm happy ^^
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And Ron gets off the hook for no apparent reason
Ron gets off the hook due to the REAL 'double jeopardy' ; not being able to to be prosecuted for the same crime twice. A mistrial is only if something in the trial goes wrong, new evidence isn't enough to force one.
So actually, Ron getting off scot free is how it would happen in real life. Similary, Atmey's tactic would also be aplicable in real life; it's called an 'alibi' XD But an alibi =/= Double Jeopardy, Capcom you messed up :F
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not being able to to be prosecuted for the same crime twice
So everyone handily forgot that MaskDeMasque stole far more things than just an urn, right? T.Tlll
Poor Ron, not even with overwhelming evidence and full confessions from him and the guy who blackmailed him can make anyone believe he was a thief...
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the Judge ruled that Ron wasn't Mask (Jazz Hands) Demasque, so he can get away with it.
So...is that get-of-jail-free card for life, or until the Judge forgets -.-??
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To be honest, although I noticed the similarity between Dahlia and Dessie's smile sprite, I never noticed the similarities between 3-1 and 3-2.
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I suspected her, but ruled her out pretty quickly because she had so few animations. Metagaming FTL.
Really, I thought the opposite. I was expecting that she would have some great "evil" animations. Similar to Matt with his suspicious lack of sprites throughout the first day and a half of 2-4.Gerkuman wrote:
If you're gonna blame someone, blame Godot XD
Fix'd. Although I wont deny that Godot is the second best prosecutor in the series, he always seems to get confused at the end of cases and make some oversight or mistake. Spoiler: 3-2
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And I agree with the Dahlia-Dessie, Ron-Pheenie thing, though I never noticed it before. o.o Wow. I am glad she didn't end up like that, though. I love Dollie and all but if Dessie was like her I would cry.
Really, though, their little face icons! Mask*DeMasque's matches Dessie's perfectly.
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Man, I love that case.
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THEIR FACE ICONS MAAAAATCH
Yeah, I mentioned this in my first post, nice to see I wasn't the only one who noticed!
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Really, I thought the opposite. I was expecting that she would have some great "evil" animations. Similar to Matt with his suspicious lack of sprites throughout the first day and a half of 2-4.
I don't care if she had evil animations, as long as she still loves Ron XDD
Btw, anyone wonder about the lack of cutscene pictures after case 3? I found that so disappointing...but it seems they reserve those for minor characters, which is really nice ^^ (e.g. Dessie's flashback, and Gumshoes timely arrival with the evidence)
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I have no Photoshop skills, so I have no sig. Boo...
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And then, someone felt it was far too obvious, and in fact, EVERYONE didn't believe it was Ron anyway. So in a shocking twist that noone saw coming, THEY MADE THE FANBOY HIS OWN GREATEST DREAM!!!
But then again...a storyline with Ron being a fanboy for his wife is just too cute for words XD
PS: Because my fangirlism is ignited - Ron would ride in a sidecar, or pillion?
(Sidecar is adorable, but I think if they have to escape the police, it'll have to be pillion)
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