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Wouldn't it make sense that Case 4 should be part of Case 5? You know how like in GS4

Spoiler: GS4 Case 4
AT one point there is a past Trial with Phoenix, and the new young prosecutor, Kyouya. At the beginning you are at present day, but in the middle of the case, you go to the past trial, then back to the present investigation after Phoenix's past final trial.


In other words, in the beginning of GS3 Case 4.
Spoiler: GS3 Case 4 Intro
We see Phoenix Wright in bed in a hospital, with a laptop computer, researching data of Mia's first trial.
However, we don't really know what happened to Phoenix during this time. It is only AFTER GS3 Case 5 that we see what happens to Phoenix.


Where as somewhere at the beginning of Case 5.
Spoiler: GS3 Case 5
When the murder happens, Phoenix runs for help, and falls off the bridge, and ends up in the hospital.

So during this time, I believe that Case 4 should be part of Case 5, where Phoenix can't be at the investigation scene.

So in other words. There should NOT be 5 cases. There should only be 4 Cases in GS3. The First 3 cases. Then the 4th case should be about BOTH Phoenix Wright and Mia Fey's first trial. In a way, the last case of GS3 would be set up like how GS4's last case is set up.
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.. Why, exactly? Why not make it two different cases? It's far clearer this way.
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Yeah, it really is two cases anyway... Case 4 is the state vs. :onamida: , and then case 5 is the state vs. :ayame: .

You could argue that 1-4 is actually two cases as well, but eh, that would've been confusing since the cases blend right into eachother, plus the accused is the same person ( :edgeworth: ).

And technically, the end of 5-1 is wrapped up with Phoenix saying "I was on trial 5 years ago, but recent events have made me think back on that day", or something like that. Clearly he's referring to case 3-5 here. The timeline just isn't straight, which makes for good storytelling usually! :phoenix:


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Well, GS4 was the first game that they did for DS- there's a lot different in terms of memory spaces and ability. The rest were all GBA games with GBA specifications. Naturally there would be different limitations.

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I see where N-Mario is coming from. And actually, hes right. IMO.

Spoiler: Case 4 & 5
I think it woulda been cool to see Dahlia in action in 3-1, then forget about her, then come across Iris. And be like wowowiwo its Dahlia. And then see Dahlia again in the flashback and be like whoa shes definatly tied into this somehow.
But I also like how they did it.
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Nah, it'd get confusing, and the case would be mega long. Having Edgeworth just take over and having case 4 on its ownsome was a better idea.
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First, it would be a tad confusing. Also, the case would be extremely long and annoying (like Rise from the Ashes >_>)
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Nah, why stop Case 5 completely to go off on a tangent (Case 4,) then get back into Case 5 again?

Also, Case 3-2 was 2 cases also.

Spoiler: 3-2
3 if you count Atmey's show trial.

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But the accused is the same person, at least...
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Not counting the 3rd case. :yogi:

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It would be great, but I'm pretty sure it would cause people's DSs to explode from too high a concentration of epic.
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It'd be too confusing, really. And for one thing...

Spoiler:
Having the focus on Phoenix bed-ridden and reminiscing rather than on the actual trial would take away from the case. It'd make it too disjointed. It's better to have the trial at the focus, even if it had to be done with substitute lawyers and prosecutors.

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I'm happy with the way they did things...

Case 4 was basically just Phoenix reading the court files on his laptop, and they decided to make it a playable case to give the player a deeper understanding of the details.
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I hated Case 4. I kind of wish they had left it out and then revealed parts of it during Case 5.
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I think it was a good idea to split case 4 and 5. Case 4 was an entirely different case really, Mia's first case, and it happened five years before Case 5 (unlike Ron DeLite/Luke Atmey's second trial in 3.2, Edgeworth's second trial in 2.4, etc, which were all immediately after their previous trial). It would have been hard to squeeze this somewhere in Case 5, they could do it when Phoenix was hospitalised, but that would have been really confusing (you'd get the events leading up to Case 5, then it is suddenly interrupted and you do entirely different case from five years ago, then you return to Case 5 again for the court proceedings).
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I hated Case 4. I kind of wish they had left it out and then revealed parts of it during Case 5.

I liked it. It was basically a short but hard case, no investigation, no psyche-locks, nothing, just plain trial.
Spoiler: Case 4 spoiler
The end was really tragic... But it gave you a good foretaste of case 5, and showed the deeper backgrounds of case 1 and Dahlia Hawthorne's motives.
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I see where N-Mario is coming from. And actually, hes right. IMO.

Spoiler: Case 4 & 5
I think it woulda been cool to see Dahlia in action in 3-1, then forget about her, then come across Iris. And be like wowowiwo its Dahlia. And then see Dahlia again in the flashback and be like whoa shes definatly tied into this somehow.
But I also like how they did it.



Wouldnt it then be just like the case 3 intro?
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I personally thought case 4 was amazingly boring v_v

I'm not sure if it would have been better to have it within case 5, though...
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So in other words. There should NOT be 5 cases. There should only be 4 Cases in GS3. The First 3 cases. Then the 4th case should be about BOTH Phoenix Wright and Mia Fey's first trial. In a way, the last case of GS3 would be set up like how GS4's last case is set up.

well... i didnt spoil myself into gs4 so i dun really understand :meekins:

The point is ... case 4 is not as easy as case1. If capcom put case 4 in 5......
WOW!
then i wont feel sad when terry drank the poison and i wont hate dahlia too much coz the case will be a lot faster.
and case 4 is an intro of case5... so it should be put BEFORE case 5! actually when i saw the bridge's name (*is it a spoiler?*) , i just felt familiar and "back in 5 yrs, mia's first case happened here...".
maybe only i think that way...?
(oops sorry my english is not good. therefore i made a lot of grammatic mistakes :larry: im a Chinese actually :redd: )

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First, it would be a tad confusing. Also, the case would be extremely long and annoying (like Rise from the Ashes >_>)


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I see no reason to put Bridge to the Turnabout before Turnabout Memories.

Spoiler: 3-5
Okay sure, Phoenix in the hospital and looking up the old case did occur while he was in the hospital from 3-5 but keeping them as separate episodes was a good move. In fact, the game would have a less epic finale.

I also thought the way it was ordered was nicely done. We already get information on Dahlia and the incident with Terry Fawles on the Dusky Bridge. Once you start the last case,l lo and behold, it's the Dusky Bridge! I can say I wasn't really expecting that. Learning that Dahlia has a twin sister in the end and revealing that it was her the whole time she was with Phoenix would be less effective if it wasn't the last case. I should probably add more to this but that's all I have at the moment.

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