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Case 3-3: Is Viola really innocent?Topic%20Title

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After just finishing Case 3-3, I'm not entirely convinced Viola was just another of Tigre's victims. There are some things that don't add up.

- The way she was threatening Armstong at the Tres Bien.

- If she hated framing Maggey, why didn't she say so then and there? Viola KNEW Tigre wouldn't DARE do anything to displease her.

- Go a bit further back than that, what was Tigre doing with poison if killing Glen wasn't part of the original plan?

Here's my theory-

Bringing the poison was Viola's idea, she knew about the lottery and wanted to be prepared just in case. Framing Maggey was Tigre's idea, but Viola went along without any reservations. But when she discovered the real Phoenix Wright was involved a month later, Viola quickly went back to Tender Lender. There she quickly put out some cetain items where she knew Phoenix would find them. Then she quickly put together a series of half truths that insured Phoenix would only go after Tigre. Viola then simply gave Phoenix her medical papers and left Tigre to take the fall alone.
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1. She just likes idly threatening people.

2. Did she actually say that? I know she said she didn't like how Tigre killed Glen, but I don't remember her saying anything about Maggey.

3. Probably just insurance.
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Even Gumshoe warns you that she's the more dangerous of the two, if I recall correctly, and Don Tigre's behavior around her supports this. That doesn't mean she isn't genuinely hurt by Don Tigre's betrayal, but who knows? In any case, at the very least, she's certainly an accessory to murder, tried to frame somebody, and stuck repeated threats of arson and mutilation into her conversation with Jean. It's very unlikely that she would have faked that poisoning of the cup without full knowledge of what she was doing, and full consent.

Interestingly enough, she seems to be in an excellent position when the case is over. Nobody dares prosecute her, she's gotten rid of a moderately dangerous ally who knows too much, and somebody's released the MC Bomber virus all over the police networks, eliminating who-knows-what evidence against the Cadaverinis. Yeah, she's the mastermind, all right.
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Innocent is a stretch. She admits to willingly participating in the whole crime (and may have known about Tigre's contingency plan. They were very prepared). Tigre brought the poison because, while he didn't think Glen could pay, he needed that disk. It was his life on the line if he didn't get it. Viola had no reason to need to money. Her grandfather likely paid for her operation up front to save her life (he had plenty of cash) and then demanded the compensation from Tigre. The demand for compensation was more punishment for hurting Viola then an actual need for money. Bruno was a huge crime boss and Viola was his treasure. After all by the time of the murder, Viola was there to help with the plan so she was fine by then. Life threatening injuries don't just go away. Don't forget by the time we play the case, its a month old. All this had already been over for a while.

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SwordKing wrote:
If she hated framing Maggey, why didn't she say so then and there? Viola KNEW Tigre wouldn't DARE do anything to displease her.


But...the reason she wouldn't do that is half the point of her character!

Viola didn't *want* Tigre to fear her because of her connections. She fell in love with him because she thought he honestly cared for her, not because he was being pressured into it. That's why she felt so betrayed when she accepted that that had been the case all along.

If Viola had told Tigre not to go through the plan to frame Maggey, especially at the threat of her family, one of two things would have happened:

1) He would agree and find some other way to hide the body, probably proving that he was too fearful of her family to do otherwise: the last thing Tigre or even Viola herself wanted to admit to.

2) He would have went through it anyway, proving he didn't really care how she felt about it.

Tigre was screwed either way...! D:
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I wouldn't say she was innocent, but personally I think that part of why she was willing to go along with the whole thing was basically what Croik said; bringing up the family connections would most likely make her feel like she had to face the worry she had. That is, about Tigre and the family connections. I'm pretty sure it's stated she had considered the idea before, yeah?

Also, maybe she thought if he couldn't trust her to do what he wanted, he wouldn't love her; and no amount of bringing family connections up would change that.

Tigre possibly brought the poison along simply as insurance, in case Glen tried to get out of it. After all, he could have said 'I won't do this'... but if he's been poisoned, it doesn't matter, does it?

And I really do think she just likes making threats XDD;;; Maybe she thinks it'll help people take her seriously? =P

One of these days, I'm going to write an essay on Viola, I swear.
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Croik wrote:
But...the reason she wouldn't do that is half the point of her character!

Viola didn't *want* Tigre to fear her because of her connections. She fell in love with him because she thought he honestly cared for her, not because he was being pressured into it. That's why she felt so betrayed when she accepted that that had been the case all along.


That's assuming what she told Phoenix was the entire truth. Like I said, her tale of woe might have been carefully edited to make sure Phoenix would only go after Tigre. The Magatama didn't catch her a second time because she didn't hold back any information that could prove Maggey's innocence.

I'm reserving final judgement until I see her bit in the ending credits though.
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Don Tigre should be an anagram for a certain 2-4 character... But he has too many letter differences...

I wonder if Bruno knows Shelly...
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