Re: Thread Necromancy- thoughts?
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BlackJack wrote:
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I don't think necroing discussions is a problem at all, but it is annoying in the Present Evidence forums, since people with recent updates get pushed behind years-old threads that the creator is probably not coming back to.
OK, now I understand you guys problem with it. This makes sense.
Yeah, I never used to understand it until we got that wave of pointless sprite topic ressurections. UGH.
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BlackJack wrote:
Maybe it's because I'm new, but I don't see what the problem is.
So someone posts in a thread that's been dead for a while, what's the harm in that?
And I can see the obvious annoyance in something like
"Haha! I found this on page 23!
"
But a normal post in a dead thread doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
What harm is done, really?
So someone posts in a thread that's been dead for a while, what's the harm in that?
And I can see the obvious annoyance in something like
"Haha! I found this on page 23!
"But a normal post in a dead thread doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
What harm is done, really?
Well, then it appears in the active topics then a mod locks it. I don't see the big deal in a normal post being in a dead topic, though. When I asked why it was such a big deal on the FAQ, I don't remember who responded to it, but they avoided the main point of the question. What's the big deal in posting in a "dead" topic? Why does it have to be locked?
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Re: Thread Necromancy- thoughts?
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Steel_Python wrote:
I usually don't pay attention to the dates that people post. The topics should be either removed, locked, or there should be some sort of warning that it's not a topic that you should be posting in, "cuz it's old."
Admitting you're lazy and then suggesting that rather than simply being less lazy the forum should change to babysit your laziness does not bode well for your reputation around here.
Pro tip: stop being lazy. :O
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I don't see the big deal in a normal post being in a dead topic, though. When I asked why it was such a big deal on the FAQ, I don't remember who responded to it, but they avoided the main point of the question. What's the big deal in posting in a "dead" topic? Why does it have to be locked?
It isn't a big deal provided something significant is contributed to the topic by your post and the thread is still relevant to the present community. The majority of thread necros though are simply inappropriate and demonstrate a lack of diligence and forethought on the part of the poster. This brands them as an idiot pretty quickly seeing as they just gave everyone clear evidence that they are indeed two eggs short of an omelette.
Pro tip: stop being lazy. :O
Does we even do these things anymore?
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Pro tip: Stop acting like you're so much better than me. And if these "tips" are soming from you, remove the "pro."
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I'd say
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And he's not acting better then you, He's just stating the facts.
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...Hopefully someday... xD
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And I'm with Lind in this one.
It never bothered me until the massive sprite thread recovering...
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You’re so small in such a big world...
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Nobody claimed they were better than you, Steel. Boss Velotix is just saying necroing could be avoided if people would check the dates and think before posting something. That's all. Granted, it was a very blunt way to say that, but still...
Note to self: Do not put down any protips that could be found offensive...
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Lida_Rose wrote:
I shall step in before things get ugly.
Nobody claimed they were better than you, Steel. Boss Velotix is just saying necroing could be avoided if people would check the dates and think before posting something. That's all. Granted, it was a very blunt way to say that, but still...
Note to self: Do not put down any protips that could be found offensive...
Nobody claimed they were better than you, Steel. Boss Velotix is just saying necroing could be avoided if people would check the dates and think before posting something. That's all. Granted, it was a very blunt way to say that, but still...
Note to self: Do not put down any protips that could be found offensive...
Good thing you did actually did step in. If they actually did say it that way, I wouldn't have lost it.
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HAI I'M VELO n_n
I'M BLUNT AND DON'T MINCE MY WORDS - I WON'T SHY AWAY FROM TELLING THE TRUTH OR MY OPINION EVEN IF IT COULD OFFEND
I ALSO DON'T POST UNLESS I HAVE SOMETHING USEFUL TO CONTRIBUTE
IF YOU ACTUALLY GET OFFENDED BY THE THINGS I SAY ON THE FORUM, I WON'T CARE, DEAL WITH YOUR AMUSING NERDRAGE CAUSED BY INEXPERIENCE WITH THE INTERNET QUIETLY SO AS NOT TO MAKE AN ASS OF YOURSELF - I'M AN EXPERT AT MAKING PEOPLE LOOK AND FEEL STUPID (YES THAT INCLUDES MYSELF) AND REVEALING TROLLS
IF YOU HAVE MEANINGFUL RESPONSES TO MY AND OTHERS' POINTS THOUGH, I WILL CARE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY AND WILL ACT ACCORDINGLY
IF YOU LIKE ME, COOL, IF YOU DON'T, I WON'T CARE - GUESS WHAT? DEAL WITH IT n_n
And that's the only time I'm going to "introduce" myself again for a long time.
I've noticed flamewars over absolutely nothing have become infrequent occurances on this board since I left originally. You won't catch me wasting time with those. Let's get back to business and leave the butthurt nerdrage at the door for the rest of the topic, kthx.
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Clearly, you think that it's the most important thing to do is to look at the date of every little post.
Speaking for myself I do check post timestamps as a matter of routine, and have changed the board settings to make the timestamps easier to read.
Even if you don't check timestamps, you definitely should check the timestamp on the last post in the topic before posting, it takes all of ten seconds to do so at the most.
That said, you should check timestamps on posts. It reveals a lot about how busy the topic is/was and at what times of the day, where the lulls and spikes in interest showed up and why, and allows you to get a better idea of how the topic progressed to its current stage before you joined it. It's not difficult and helps your reply to be much more relevant to either what's currently being discussed in an active thread, or what would be the most relevant way to revive the thread without beating the one/ten/twenty/billion dead horses the thread already went through.
Almost all thread necros are either completely irrelevant to the pre-existing thread and add nothing to it or beat one or more rotted dead horses with the necro stick. This makes the oldbies cringe when they see it rise from the grave once more to stink up the forum for at least the second time. This just makes the poster look like an idiot and permanently harms their credibility.
Provided your revival post demonstrates knowledge of the topic being discussed, careful thought being put into the new information/opinion presented to the topic and most importantly is actually relevant to the topic, there's no problem at all. On the other hand, if what you post basically amounts to a bump and/or "I agree", "I disagree", "lol", "I LIEK PIE", then a retarded forum troll and a n00b be you.
Be aware of what you're doing when you res an old thread. You're digging up an old war wound of the forum that the community already put to rest at least once, and probably for good reasons.
^ Don't be this d-bag.
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In sprites it and like that it is longer than in defendants lobby, for example.
Re: Thread Necromancy- thoughts?
They don't :c
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First,
FlameInferno wrote:
Sorry to interrupt you two, but I have a quick question; How long would a thread have to be inactive to be considered "dead"?
Well, I would consider a thread "dead" when either its topic is something outdated, and nothing relevant could be added; or when the author, and probably the main reason why the thread exists, has left CR, or isn't planning on contributing to that thread anymore.
If somebody feels it right to correct me, be my guest ^_^
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Regarding the thread's topic (that's weird to say, considering topic is another way of saying "thread"), there has been so much distraction and so many opinions, it's hard to have a straight idea of what's been expressed here.
So I'll just express my own opinion.
It's been said, but I will repeat it because I consider it worthy: Thread Necromancy will not necessary be a bad thing everytime. There could be someone who actually has something relevant to add to the subject, even if the thread is in page 4 (not likely, but not impossible, either). That could even bring the thread to people's attention, and liven the topic up.
Velotix said it very well: It is an unwritten rule in almost every serious forum: "Do not necro." And it remains an unwritten rule because the people responsible for the forums' management considered that, at least in that moment, it was not necessary to implement a written rule, seeing how members were sensible enough to realize of this unwritten rule.
But, it may come a time when this can get out of control, and some members start breaking the unwritten rule. Therefore, they are warned (or at least should be). If they repeat the offense, then they should be punished. It could happen that this expands to a bigger amount of members. Then, the solution would be "making it official", or writing the rule, with its correspondent specifications.
If we came to this moment where necroing (for non-relevant purposes) has spread quite a bit, then I suggest writing a rule, even if it requires its own sticky thread, specificating what is considered as "good bumping" and "bad bumping" (like General Luigi described), what other members should do in a case of "bad bumping", the due warnings and the due punishments.
That is what I believe should be done. Some may agree, some not.
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Last I heard, the unwritten rule of topic death on CR was if the thread has gone more than four weeks without a post it's considered officially dead.
DeMatador's explanation also sums up the rest of the unwritten rules of necroing nicely.
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Re: Thread Necromancy- thoughts?
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Boss Velotix wrote:
Admitting you're lazy and then suggesting that rather than simply being less lazy the forum should change to babysit your laziness does not bode well for your reputation around here.
Pro tip: stop being lazy. :O
Pro tip: stop being lazy. :O
*Glares* She's not being lazy. She was just stating her opinion. Cold words cut deep, so leave her alone.
I know I'm a little late, but I do want to stand up for my friend.
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Re: Thread Necromancy- thoughts?
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1. Thread Necro is not bad so long as the new post is relevant and the topic can still be reasonably discussed (i.e. the topic creator hasn't sunk into the ocean, etc)
2. If a dead topic is revived pointlessly with a vapic comment, or the subject is long dead, or in the case of P.Evidence threads the creator is confirmed gone, the thread should be reported and locked.
(It would be helpful if members with fan threads alert the mods that they would like their thread locked once they abandon ship, but I'm not holding my breath on people remembering that).
If you browse the forum normally it is easy to tell which topics are dead - if the topic is on page 10 or something, obviously it hasn't been topical in a while. If you use the search function, check the date of the thread you've discovered before posting in it. You've already taken the time to search, it doesn't take any effort to glance into the corner of the latest post.
Simple?
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Bump - bump - bump - bump - bump - bump - bump
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Do you see the black one...or the white?
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dullahan1 wrote:
I'll give this thread a year after it dies down and then I'll post my opinion about this.
So yeah. Thread necromancy? Redundant and pointless. I mean what kind of loser would dig up an old topic and post something completely irrelevant or pointless just to drag up a topic that should have died in the first place? We should put a stop to this right now guys. There are necromancing criminals afoot and they need to be put down and shot down. Join me my brethren in taking down these foul creatures so that we may usher in a utopia free from the burdens of topics that display nothing but our past mistakes and oppressions. We cannot learn anything from the past. We must instead always look forward into the future and strive for a better tomorrow as we throw away the hindrances of our previous mishaps. Who is with me?
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I feel the same
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