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Also, for what it's worth, AAI was 64 MB, and not all of that was actually used by the game. But I don't know what kind of limits Nintendo puts on the eShop games.


If I recall, and I could be making this stuff up, Cave Story hit trouble when trying to be on WiiWare, it exceeded the max file size. The version that's currently up is listed as "6 x 5MB", which I presume means 30 megs? Assuming that AAI is 64 MB, that'd mean that it'd be still double the limit. Plus, even if it didn't use all that space, some measure of 'unused' space would have to be dedicated for the medium change from DS to eShop. As I doubt Nintendo intends DS games to be downloadable until the next generation hand held, we can't expect Nintendo to make said distribution any easier.
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Nintendo are revolutionary in many ways but so bloody backwards in others. Why they can't have a good online system like LIVE is beyond me...
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Perhaps they could get round it by releasing it as seperate cases?
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grim_tales wrote:
Perhaps they could get round it by releasing it as seperate cases?


That's even MORE annoying and even MORE BS. IMO.

Anyway I DO appreciate it.

I just don't want it as a download that's all. But if I don't have a choice I don't have a choice I guess.

But trust me... I won't like doing it in the slightest way whatsoever. I'll force myself to I guess.

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AAS4Life wrote:
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Perhaps they could get round it by releasing it as seperate cases?


That's even MORE annoying and even MORE BS. IMO.

Anyway I DO appreciate it.

I just don't want it as a download that's all. But if I don't have a choice I don't have a choice I guess.

But trust me... I won't like doing it in the slightest way whatsoever. I'll force myself to I guess.

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ASAS4Life, calm down or I'll give you a one week suspension. It's an inconvenience. Not racial discrimination.
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I'm wondering, I don't remember exactly, but I thought I heard/read somewhere that the 3DS eShop doesn't support the Nintendo Points cards because it uses regional currencies. I don't remember any of the games having point-values.

Edit: Plus, they'd probably split the game up, making you pay for each case separately.
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Good point.
I don't see what it can be on, if not the DS, 3DS (or presumably Wiiware even?) what then?
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grim_tales wrote:
Good point.
I don't see what it can be on, if not the DS, 3DS (or presumably Wiiware even?) what then?

Mabye iPhone? I kinda wish they'd do that, because I don't like carrying my 3DS a lot.
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Professor_Wright wrote:
grim_tales wrote:
Good point.
I don't see what it can be on, if not the DS, 3DS (or presumably Wiiware even?) what then?

Mabye iPhone? I kinda wish they'd do that, because I don't like carrying my 3DS a lot.


Uh... GOD NO.

THAT'S WORSE.

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AAS4Life, that's ENOUGH. Enjoy your time out.
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This is interesting, great to know its still coming.
Most likely 3DS,it would be cool, we should just be patient and see what happens.

In MY opinion, I really DONT want them to make it on iphone, the things great but putting a game thats already out on something like iphone isnt right, to ME atleast, it feels degrading but not in the way that the iphone is bad, in the way that Ace Attorney was a great series and is still doing well, why would they just put the next game on something away from its audience and away from gaming.


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Nintendo are revolutionary in many ways but so bloody backwards in others. Why they can't have a good online system like LIVE is beyond me...

Because its not their focus, online things like buying stuff and multiplayer work well, but they dont want to overhual it with so many unneeded things, they're a GAMING Manufacturer, not a media manufacturer like Microsoft.

That doesnt mean their not getting better, the Eshop is MUCH better and easier to use then Wiiware and dsiware, and now only 1 friend code is needed for all games. Wii U is looking much better aswell.
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Note: Ports of the old games slowly coming to Iphone is okay, but having the newest head on rather where its supposed to is what im talking about.
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I'd be more bothered as it would mean a nintendo publication being...somewhat iphone exclusive I mean I hate apple as much as it is without them stealing one of my favourite game franchises from me.

Though we're all just running our mouths now anyway got no idea if that announcement even means a localisation so best to just chill for now.
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I still want an actual game. Not a download.

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AAS4Life wrote:
I still want an actual game. Not a download.

:lana:


Seriously, what's your beef with downloads? Is it just some hatred for them, or just that we might get AAI2 as a download?
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Sweet jesus, this is like in school when someone says "Gee, I wish that there will be a snow day tomorrow." and then a couple kids say "NO FUCK OFF I WANT MORE SUMMER DUMBASS DO YOU REALLY WANT TO STAY IN SCHOOL DURING THE SUMMER!!!!!"
In other words, please stop. Right now.
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Pierre wrote:
I'd be more bothered as it would mean a nintendo publication being...somewhat iphone exclusive I mean I hate apple as much as it is without them stealing one of my favourite game franchises from me.

Though we're all just running our mouths now anyway got no idea if that announcement even means a localisation so best to just chill for now.


Your right, we should, i was calm.

AAS4Life, you need to calm down, we dont know anything yet and your more frustrated than a dog whose owners wont throw food on the floor.

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Sweet jesus, this is like in school when someone says "Gee, I wish that there will be a snow day tomorrow." and then a couple kids say "NO FUCK OFF I WANT MORE SUMMER DUMBASS DO YOU REALLY WANT TO STAY IN SCHOOL DURING THE SUMMER!!!!!"
In other words, please stop. Right now.


No, it isn't.

He hasn't insulted anybody, told them to fuck off, or challenged the view of anyone else who disagrees with him. All he did was explain his fears and frustrations, albeit loudly and repeatedly.

Is he overreacting? Probably.

Is overreacting in response going to diffuse the situation? Possibly, but it won't make you any better.
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Adrian in black wrote:
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Sweet jesus, this is like in school when someone says "Gee, I wish that there will be a snow day tomorrow." and then a couple kids say "NO FUCK OFF I WANT MORE SUMMER DUMBASS DO YOU REALLY WANT TO STAY IN SCHOOL DURING THE SUMMER!!!!!"
In other words, please stop. Right now.


No, it isn't.

He hasn't insulted anybody, told them to fuck off, or challenged the view of anyone else who disagrees with him. All he did was explain his fears and frustrations, albeit loudly and repeatedly.

Is he overreacting? Probably.

Is overreacting in response going to diffuse the situation? Possibly, but it won't make you any better.


That's not really the point here. His loud disproportionate downright moody and immature behaviour got him a temp-ban before. I think by coming back and whining about the same thing he's tempting the Wrath of Wooster.
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Hotdiddykong wrote:
This is interesting, great to know its still coming.

All that's ever been said is they don't have plans to release it on the DS. While this might look like a sliver of hope to optimistic fans (since other systems weren't specified), they never mentioned any plans to release the game.
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Pierre wrote:
Adrian in black wrote:
Krazytimes wrote:
Sweet jesus, this is like in school when someone says "Gee, I wish that there will be a snow day tomorrow." and then a couple kids say "NO FUCK OFF I WANT MORE SUMMER DUMBASS DO YOU REALLY WANT TO STAY IN SCHOOL DURING THE SUMMER!!!!!"
In other words, please stop. Right now.


No, it isn't.

He hasn't insulted anybody, told them to fuck off, or challenged the view of anyone else who disagrees with him. All he did was explain his fears and frustrations, albeit loudly and repeatedly.

Is he overreacting? Probably.

Is overreacting in response going to diffuse the situation? Possibly, but it won't make you any better.


That's not really the point here. His loud disproportionate downright moody and immature behaviour got him a temp-ban before. I think by coming back and whining about the same thing he's tempting the Wrath of Wooster.


No, that's exactly the point. I am aware he's earned a ban for this reason before. But the comparison with the kid who insults people who love snow days is completely off base.
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No, that's exactly the point. I am aware he's earned a ban for this reason before. But the comparison with the kid who insults people who love snow days is completely off base.


I was aiming for "getting angry at someone for wishing for something that he or she would not like that is inconsequential and has actually not happened and which the prior has no ability to change".
In hindsight he wasn't actually yelling at the suggester, so I guess I was wrong.
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Guys, just to clear things up: If it is indeed happening for the 3DS, it will be on the eShop. Simply because the DSiWare game limit is 16MB, while the 3DS eShop has no limit at all (or a much bigger limit - proof of it is that Let's Golf 3D's game size is 200MB).
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Because a download is stupid and kind of a middle finger given to the fans IMO.

Plus there's also that little fact where not every can get downloadable only games...

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AAS4Life, SHUT UP.

Enjoy ANOTHER temp ban.
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Oh, if there's no size limit on e-shop then AAI2 would be brilliant as a download; I'd prefer a physical copy, obviously, but I'd rather have something incorporeal than nothing at all. With download too, all Capcom have to fork out on is the translation. That'd make them a tidy profit, I think.
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With no Download limit we're only limited by our SD cards :garyuu:

Makes it much more plausible but no!
I must not get excited for this it's still too vague and completely not announced right now
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Whilst certain people are bickering about issues that don't really matter:

I would personally prefer a DS flash card to complete the collection and keep it neat, but that ship has sailed. I, like many people, am beginning to see an interesting suite of games to play on the 3DS platform, and so by the time this is ready to be released the platform should be a viable option for good sales. iPhone is definitely an interesting choice but I think it would be an awkward match in the West - people would actively wonder why it's jumped off the good ship Nintendo all of a sudden, and for the iPhone market it would have to be sold at an unattractive price point.

However, considering the extra costs associated with manufacturing the carts and the clear perception in the West that Ace Attorney games, especially spinoffs, are not worth full retail price, methinks Capcom will get the most sales for AAI2 by releasing it on the 3DS eShop.

And so long as they get the most sales and the largest profit margin from doing it that way, that's what they'll do. Whether that makes it impossible for certain unlucky fans to buy it or not is not really a concern when they gain far more potential customers than they stand to lose by doing this. They care about their customers as a group, not you individually.

However the real question is how willing Capcom are to push the marketing on this title, because that is going to decide the ultimate fate of the AA franchise. The sudden upswing in cameo appearances and spinoffs is going to help a lot though.
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As long as we get it?

ME GUSTA. I will take a download or a game cart.
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Downloadable, eh?
....e....hhhhh...I'm not so sure I like that...

Ok, I DO understand that no money = No. F***ING. Money!!
But...If it becomes downloadable only then there's no way I'm gonna get my hands to it.
No Wi-Fi...Well...Nothing's been decided 100% yet, is it?

Soo...I'm not making Darth Vader NOOO just yet. :pearl:
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Can't you go to a starbucks or steal internet from a friend, or something? :yuusaku:

(I mean, you just need the wi-fi once to download it; it's not like you need it whenever you want to play)
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Can't you go to a starbucks or steal internet from a friend, or something? :yuusaku:

(I mean, you just need the wi-fi once to download it; it's not like you need it whenever you want to play)

But I'm not social person or have any friends...Well...Not anyone with LAN net at least.
And there isn't really any places in here that I could just go for that.

...Meh...To be honest it's not even worth talking of this right now, 'ight?
I mean...They're not even gonna release it yet, so...why have to fight over it?
Besides, anything in my life could change before they tell us anything new regarding to this.
So...I guess I'll just do what I'm best at.
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AAI:2 as a download release?
...Eh, It'd be pretty darn decent, I suppose. It'd be great to have the release localised and available to buy. Yeah, I'd get it.

Though I'd lament for a box to go on the shelf with its brothers. And a nice manual to read through. Those were the days!
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You guys are right.

I'll wait for the worse-case scenario to be confirmed to be actually happening before I start worrying.

I hope that satisfies everyone.

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If we get AAI2 as a digital download, perhaps on the 3DS eShop, then I'd be more okay with it than I'd be otherwise. At least we're getting the game localized at all. BUT, Nintendo has really been SO backwards regarding what is available digitally and what is available on the game cards that I would personally be extremely surprised to see AAI2 as a simultaneous release.

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If we get AAI2 as a digital download, perhaps on the 3DS eShop, then I'd be more okay with it than I'd be otherwise. At least we're getting the game localized at all. BUT, Nintendo has really been SO backwards regarding what is available digitally and what is available on the game cards that I would personally be extremely surprised to see AAI2 as a simultaneous release.

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Sorry I still want an actual game and cartridge that I can buy at a store.

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I think it's pretty clear what you want, AAS4. I don't believe there is a single person who has posted in this thread that is unaware of what it is you want.

But we're trying to think realistically here. I know it's cliche, but "you can't always get what you want". Personally, I would much prefer a physical cartridge, too. I always prefer physical over digital. However, if we think realistically, it doesn't appear that Capcom wants to release a physical copy of the game, because the first western release of AAI did not meet their sales quota. Sometimes sacrifices are going to be made for the benefit of cashing in on a cheap digital distribution.
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Rov wrote:
I think it's pretty clear what you want, AAS4. I don't believe there is a single person who has posted in this thread that is unaware of what it is you want.

But we're trying to think realistically here. I know it's cliche, but "you can't always get what you want". Personally, I would much prefer a physical cartridge, too. I always prefer physical over digital. However, if we think realistically, it doesn't appear that Capcom wants to release a physical copy of the game, because the first western release of AAI did not meet their sales quota. Sometimes sacrifices are going to be made for the benefit of cashing in on a cheap digital distribution.


Think we should probably drop the issue Rov. Our opinions are clear but gotta remember this isn't even an announcement we ain't really any closer to a localisation that before.

Plus if we bicker further AAS might get worked up a bit and get banned again so lets just wait and see if any of the future events shed any light on the situation. 10th anniversary court may not be about AAI or AJ but they are still offshoots of the franchise so we may see something.
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Rov wrote:
I think it's pretty clear what you want, AAS4. I don't believe there is a single person who has posted in this thread that is unaware of what it is you want.

But we're trying to think realistically here. I know it's cliche, but "you can't always get what you want". Personally, I would much prefer a physical cartridge, too. I always prefer physical over digital. However, if we think realistically, it doesn't appear that Capcom wants to release a physical copy of the game, because the first western release of AAI did not meet their sales quota. Sometimes sacrifices are going to be made for the benefit of cashing in on a cheap digital distribution.


I don't have a credit card and will most likely never have one. I can't get any sort of download.

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AAS4Life wrote:
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I think it's pretty clear what you want, AAS4. I don't believe there is a single person who has posted in this thread that is unaware of what it is you want.

But we're trying to think realistically here. I know it's cliche, but "you can't always get what you want". Personally, I would much prefer a physical cartridge, too. I always prefer physical over digital. However, if we think realistically, it doesn't appear that Capcom wants to release a physical copy of the game, because the first western release of AAI did not meet their sales quota. Sometimes sacrifices are going to be made for the benefit of cashing in on a cheap digital distribution.


I don't have a credit card and will most likely never have one. I can't get any sort of download.

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What you think you'll be underage forever?

You'll have a credit card sometime.
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You thought you could be safe in your courts, with your laws and attorneys to protect you. In this world only I am law, my word is fact, my power is absolute.
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