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3D Models on CR
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I guess we could have some sort of model viewer, kind of how the TF2 wiki has a 3D viewer on the weapons, though I think it's comprised again, of compiled images in some clever javascript/html5 code.
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Are you looking to rip them as 2D images or the raw 3D model data? It's not clear from this thread yet.
This is complicated somewhat by the fact that viewing 3D in a web browser absolutely requires a plugin of some sort. What did you have in mind for actually displaying the models?
Does we even do these things anymore?
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Henke37 has written some scripts to read NSBMD files. Somebody (he maybe) could make a model viewer.
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dirtypantsdan wrote:
TF2 wiki has a 3D viewer on the weapons, though I think it's comprised again, of compiled images in some clever javascript/html5 code.
It is. (Using Firefox to "view page info") I found It's a .jpg in a string of each frame next to each other.
If someone on CR knows how to do this, then all people need to do is screenshot a frame of it from each angle as it rotates horizontally, Maybe they could make each piece of evidence viewable.
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Thing is, I don't get the data structure description for the models. The format specification fails to describe the way the geometry is actually stored.
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The model does in fact not use a simple data storage setup, but rather a list of commands to execute to set up the renderer such that the model is drawn. You would need to implement at least one command executer here so that the calculated data could be stored as actual data. It is far from hard to do so, but it is one obstacle more.
What is worrying me more is how to properly represent the data the commands create. I have no experience with 3d modeling file formats or 3d rendering apis.
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drthingums wrote:
That method would NOT get you a 3D model, only a bunch of images.
Kind of the point, I'm no web designer or anything, but I do know that keeping bandwidth to a minimum is always a good thing right? Just tried to offer an simple and efficient alternative 'tis all. Then again I don't know how big these NSBMD files will be vs multiple images.
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Thanks. This is the first code that I almost understand. The problem here is that my suspicion is confirmed.
The model does in fact not use a simple data storage setup, but rather a list of commands to execute to set up the renderer such that the model is drawn. You would need to implement at least one command executer here so that the calculated data could be stored as actual data. It is far from hard to do so, but it is one obstacle more.
What is worrying me more is how to properly represent the data the commands create. I have no experience with 3d modeling file formats or 3d rendering apis.
The model does in fact not use a simple data storage setup, but rather a list of commands to execute to set up the renderer such that the model is drawn. You would need to implement at least one command executer here so that the calculated data could be stored as actual data. It is far from hard to do so, but it is one obstacle more.
What is worrying me more is how to properly represent the data the commands create. I have no experience with 3d modeling file formats or 3d rendering apis.
Oh man, sounds like you're all over this. When you manage to pull it off, do you think you could emulate that nice DS model low resolution render? I always thought that would make it look awesome, rather than a straight up model render, in fact I recently tried experimenting with three.js to render my model, exported it as a .obj and used a python converter to make it a json file for it to be compatible with three.js. Since I ain't no programmer, I hardly know anything about Javascript so maybe you might be better at understanding most of it, all I did was edit an already existing example and managed to render my model through WebGl you can see it right here. Not too shabby, but still I'd rather a native nsbmd model viewer with that nice DS rendering if it's even possible.
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dirtypantsdan wrote:
drthingums wrote:
That method would NOT get you a 3D model, only a bunch of images.
Kind of the point, I'm no web designer or anything, but I do know that keeping bandwidth to a minimum is always a good thing right? Just tried to offer an simple and efficient alternative 'tis all. Then again I don't know how big these NSBMD files will be vs multiple images.
henke37 wrote:
Thanks. This is the first code that I almost understand. The problem here is that my suspicion is confirmed.
The model does in fact not use a simple data storage setup, but rather a list of commands to execute to set up the renderer such that the model is drawn. You would need to implement at least one command executer here so that the calculated data could be stored as actual data. It is far from hard to do so, but it is one obstacle more.
What is worrying me more is how to properly represent the data the commands create. I have no experience with 3d modeling file formats or 3d rendering apis.
The model does in fact not use a simple data storage setup, but rather a list of commands to execute to set up the renderer such that the model is drawn. You would need to implement at least one command executer here so that the calculated data could be stored as actual data. It is far from hard to do so, but it is one obstacle more.
What is worrying me more is how to properly represent the data the commands create. I have no experience with 3d modeling file formats or 3d rendering apis.
Oh man, sounds like you're all over this. When you manage to pull it off, do you think you could emulate that nice DS model low resolution render? I always thought that would make it look awesome, rather than a straight up model render, in fact I recently tried experimenting with three.js to render my model, exported it as a .obj and used a python converter to make it a json file for it to be compatible with three.js. Since I ain't no programmer, I hardly know anything about Javascript so maybe you might be better at understanding most of it, all I did was edit an already existing example and managed to render my model through WebGl you can see it right here. Not too shabby, but still I'd rather a native nsbmd model viewer with that nice DS rendering if it's even possible.
Before you guys get too far, might I suggest you don't focus on the Rise from the Ashes models? The new HD game has some nifty resources.
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As for what to make an eventual model viewer with, Flash is now an option. It got real hardware accelerated 3d rendering last year.
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