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I have an idea for court records like on aao we should have a llist of people that got warnings and bans
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And how is that going to be useful?
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That would be kind of pointless to be honest edgey, the only people who need to know are the mods and admins and they probably have their own secret lair where they discuss who to kill etc.

Also it wouldn't be nice for someone to be named and shamed like that even if they were a pain in the arse.
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No worries, us mods already do. :godot:

I'm... not sure why this is here, though. Moved to Court Docket.
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Yeah besides it doesn't make much sense, don't get many troublemakers round these parts. In fact the last big banning (discounting bot bans) I can think of was years ago, and was kinda public knowledge. We don't talk about it any more.


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As Bad Player pointed out, we do discuss bans (among other things) away from the prying eyes of the rank-and-file. If a staff member believes a ban was unjust, he/she has the authority to overturn it. However, it is rare for a ban to be overturned, as the offense that warranted the ban is generally rather clear-cut and discussed with the rest of the staff. Users who feel they were unjustly banned may appeal their bans by contacting a staff member outside the forum (most of us share an email or IM account in our profiles for this very reason). In addition, we have records of all punitive actions undertaken by the staff in a special log that all staff members can see. If, for example, Bolt bans someone, I will learn of it through the log if he doesn't mention the ban to us personally. The log also shows the reason given for a ban.

While I can understand the reasoning behind publicly announcing bans, I feel it is unnecessary. We are generally open to suggestions from the community as a whole, but a public ban list would be a tacit invitation for users to second-guess our decisions. Not everyone has the same opinion of what should and should not warrant a ban. We already have systems in place to ensure all bans are justified. There is no need to get the whole forum involved in matters concerning only individual users.
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Also it wouldn't be nice for someone to be named and shamed like that even if they were a pain in the arse.


Yeah Edgey, I'm not seeing it. As Louise said, it's not nice or necessary. It's kinda like if you failed a math test that everyone else passed and the teacher decided to tell the class that you were the only one that failed. The teacher and you (and I suppose your parents/guardians) should know that you failed but it's really nobody else's buisness; not to mention that all the kids would probably laugh at you and call you dumb.
That said, it's pretty much the same thing here except I believe that everyone here is nice enough not make fun of the people who got banned/warned.
The mods are like the teacher in my math story so only they and you have the right to know about your warnings/ban.
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I agree with Baia's analogy, I'm not sure if it's a good idea, as it can be haunting for people that were banned, and worst case, would probably deter people from coming back to the site.
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That'd be great, especially for those who were given warnings! That way they'd know so they won't make those same mistakes and get them banned because they'd have a list they can check!



...oh, wait. That's EXACTLY what warnings do and it's a reason why we have...I dunno, rules and guidelines? I assume, that's why people should, I guess, pay attention when issued warnings? Common sense, pay attention when mods warn you about something you're doing instead of ignoring it. Seriously though, doing stupid things on a forum to get yourself a warning or a ban gets you enough attention as is. Why would you want that plastered in stone for all eternity about all the stupid decisions you and others in the past have made? Please tell me why this is a good idea because it's really not.


Stuff like this, I believe, is strictly between the user and the mods and admins and should remain that way.
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A secret? Is that what you mean?

Well sorry Edgey no one really thinks its a good idea worth merit except you, and you don't want to tell us. I just don't see why it's beneficial or necessary.
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edgey, the other staff and members have given ample reason why this isn't the system we use. If you have a valid reason for your proposed system, please present it; otherwise I'll be locking this topic.
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My uh evidence yeah I have evidence (just bluff your way Robert)

Wait we should do it to warn people not to do it
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Well, that's what stuff like rules and the "Be Cool" topics are for. And usually when we lock a topic or have to take action we make a public post about it anyway. Making everyone's 'rap sheet' public doesn't really help that - it'd just be shaming people for past transgressions.
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and uh so they wont do it :b33r:
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Looking at the "Moderation announcements" thread on the AAO forums, I can already see records of repeat offenses. The evidence is all right there for anyone with access to the forum to see, and it clearly shows that publicly announcing bans does not deter repeat offenses.
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I uh well luigi I uh I just it I would for it to be here that is all and why uh




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Well, I don't really care about this topic at hand or whether or not having a public banlist be posted here or not..

But, the reason that I like public banlists is that... It allows for greater transparency between the moderators and the users of the forum. That way, the users know what's going on within the inner workings of how the mods do their job. It's similar to how a person can watch a trial and see what the sentencing of a criminal is (though, I highly doubt very many people do that). To me, it allows users and moderators greater communication and forces the mods to have accountability.

But, those are just my two cents.
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Well, I don't really care about this topic at hand or whether or not having a public banlist be posted here or not..

But, the reason that I like public banlists is that... It allows for greater transparency between the moderators and the users of the forum. That way, the users know what's going on within the inner workings of how the mods do their job. It's similar to how a person can watch a trial and see what the sentencing of a criminal is (though, I highly doubt very many people do that). To me, it allows users and moderators greater communication and forces the mods to have accountability.

But, those are just my two cents.


I think we trust our mods enough to know they aren't vicious secret-police type folks who'll ban people to oblivion over personal slights.
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Nah, it's not that. It's just more along the lines of allowing the dialogue between bans happening in the first place. Because, there can be instances of not all the details of an incident being reported, etc, that the mods didn't take into account, yada yada.
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A public banlist works on AAO because it's a smaller community with a generally small banlist (we don't get as many bots or anything) and it works generally well with the way the site runs. It works there. Here on CR...I can't really imagine it working as well. It isn't even a big thing on AAO, just a nice way to notify people and keep them in the know of when bans begin and end. This is a larger website with, I assume, a larger banlist. It just doesn't really work with this site's style as much as it does on AAO. They're very different in size and atmosphere, so they don't really have to share features like that. So yeah, while it works well on AAO, I don't think it's necessary here.
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Pierre wrote:
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Well, I don't really care about this topic at hand or whether or not having a public banlist be posted here or not..

But, the reason that I like public banlists is that... It allows for greater transparency between the moderators and the users of the forum. That way, the users know what's going on within the inner workings of how the mods do their job. It's similar to how a person can watch a trial and see what the sentencing of a criminal is (though, I highly doubt very many people do that). To me, it allows users and moderators greater communication and forces the mods to have accountability.

But, those are just my two cents.


I think we trust our mods enough to know they aren't vicious secret-police type folks who'll ban people to oblivion over personal slights.

How dare you not mention how great I am in particular! PERMABANNED. :dahlia:

This can now be the public banlist. Consider Pierre the first entry :shoe:
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Well, I don't really care about this topic at hand or whether or not having a public banlist be posted here or not..

But, the reason that I like public banlists is that... It allows for greater transparency between the moderators and the users of the forum. That way, the users know what's going on within the inner workings of how the mods do their job. It's similar to how a person can watch a trial and see what the sentencing of a criminal is (though, I highly doubt very many people do that). To me, it allows users and moderators greater communication and forces the mods to have accountability.

But, those are just my two cents.


I think we trust our mods enough to know they aren't vicious secret-police type folks who'll ban people to oblivion over personal slights.

How dare you not mention how great I am in particular! PERMABANNED. :dahlia:

This can now be the public banlist. Consider Pierre the first entry :shoe:


I was wrong! This idea is a great way to utilize how horrible these moderators and admins are to us innocent forum goers and how they rule our forums as an unjust dictatorship, ready to ban anyone who utters even a peep! Clearly we should post every single ban that's ever happened, just so we have some concrete evidence of just how awful these people are. But of course, considering this is nothing more than a ploy of a forum goer, this will just become another great decision that will be frowned upon by these evil overlords. It will get completely ignored, and, just to make sure that this subject won't get brought up ever again, ban any and all of us innocent civilians who wanted to partake in something that would have brought some sense of justice. They will then proceed to delete all of our posts pertaining to this matter to destroy any and all evidence as it could potentially be used against them in the future.

It's their way of showing us just how much they want to ultimately control our lives, giving us no free will of our own, but instead forcing us to submit to theirs. This. This is the way of a moderator. Forever will we be indebted to their mind control.

So, just to make sure I stay safe and don't get myself banned for every true thing that I have mentioned above, BP, clearly you are the most amazing and godly moderator there is, so you better not ban me lest you risk losing the only person willing to sing praises of your glorious visage. Mind control me you beautiful creature, you.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)


I feel the same


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Sorry, but no amount of praises can make up for that stray "s" at the start of your post.

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Sorry, but no amount of praises can make up for that stray "s" at the start of your post.

PERMABANNED.


What stray "s" do you speak of, oh benevolent dictator? I would never edit my posts to make you guys out to be some kind of ruthless monsters. =)
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I am thinking so, so very hard about what to do with you, edgey2000. So very very very hard. All I ask is that you stop treating CR as a chatroom and type properly. And write posts, not... One-liners. Please.

Other than that I don't see the point in that list. I'm not for it, but I also wouldn't be against it, if the forum software allows for it, since there really is nothing to hide. But that's not up to me to decide, so all I can say is "I don't see the point but I'm not against it."

Now more on-topic, let me formally announce that dullahan shall from now on be royal jester. He shall amuse us and sing our praises on a daily basis, or else he shall be swiftly reduced to dust by the almighty Banhammer.

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You guys are so on my ignore list, for like, ever.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)


I feel the same
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Here, we observe the Bad Player in his natural habitat... ah, this is a rare instance of AAO BP taking over the personality of the usually calm, mature, relaxed moderator on CR BP... truly a sight for our viewers to behold.


It's only a matter of time before BP starts abusing his mod powers to enforce NAKEY TIME on CR
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BUT HOW CAN YOU HAVE NAKEY TIEM... WHEN IT'S THE ABSENCE OF MODS WHICH EQUATES NAKEY TIEM AND BP IS A MOD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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dully should actually be banned though, he's a menace to society.
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BUT HOW CAN YOU HAVE NAKEY TIEM... WHEN IT'S THE ABSENCE OF MODS WHICH EQUATES NAKEY TIEM AND BP IS A MOD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

*permabanhammers kwando*

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Sorry to be the wet blanket here, but I think the matter of a public banlist has been pretty much decided at this point--not to mention almost all of the newer posts are composed entirely of a certain canned pork product.
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