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Author:  Ash [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:22 pm ]
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http://www.capcom.co.jp/tgs2014/game_dgs.html

TGS 2014 (September 18 ~ 21 (20-21 for public)
- DGS booth consists of a theater room with special footage (including in-game footage)
- Visitors of the theater receive a DGS postcard set
- Hints at the possibility of one of those classic TGS GS trailers...

+ http://www.capcom.co.jp/new-gyakuten/

New information will be revealed on the official DGS site on September 11 (Thursday, so together with Famitsu, as always probably).

Author:  Bad Player [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:34 pm ]
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Cool beans.

If only I wasn't avoiding spoilers.

Author:  JesusMonroe [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:49 pm ]
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Same. Sigh...

Author:  Yash K. Productions [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:17 pm ]
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Ash wrote:
- Hints at the possibility of one of those classic TGS GS trailers...

Does that mean we might get a GS6/GK3 announcement?! Just kidding, but that would really be nice. Also, can someone move this to Trial Minutes?

Author:  Klonoahedgehog [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:46 pm ]
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Let the hype begin!

Author:  Bolt Storm [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:05 pm ]
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Lack of playable demo is a bit of a shame (when's this thing coming out, anyway...?) but otherwise, good to get TGS confirmation!

Author:  Bad Player [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:08 pm ]
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Bolt Storm wrote:
Lack of playable demo is a bit of a shame (when's this thing coming out, anyway...?) but otherwise, good to get TGS confirmation!

A release date would be nice, I hope we get one. I'm pretty sure we're going to get it in 2015, but there's a big gap between February and the holiday season...

Author:  Bolt Storm [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:15 pm ]
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Mid-late 2015 would be my guess, seeing as Takumi said around the initial reveal that they'd only gotten into full development then. Would like to be wrong, but...

Also guessing that we won't be hearing anything from Yamazaki's team given DD just got released on iOS.

Author:  Turnabout_Lawman [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:33 pm ]
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Awesome, and unless that's concept art only it's looking like Takumi's going with a 2-d style again. Can't wait.

Author:  kwando1313 [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:50 pm ]
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Excited to hear that we'll see another TGS Special Court session. Those were always great.

Author:  Apollon [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:51 pm ]
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I love those good old TGS trailers, I was really sad when they stopped doing those. I can't wait to see some actual gameplay for DGS too. I mean, we know next to nothing about the game so far, so it's very possible we'll get to see some new gameplay features.

Author:  linkenski [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:21 pm ]
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I wanna see the initial trailer and gameplay footage, but I'm gonna try to avoid marketing stuff they make in the months up to the game's release next year or something.

Author:  Gyakuten$aiban [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:54 pm ]
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Aw baby.

I'll admit I get way too close to this series for my own good and try to follow the pre-release buzz as intently as possible but it always ends up blowing up in my face in some way as a result.

I'll never learn...

Author:  shadowofedgeworth [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:31 pm ]
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Turnabout_Lawman wrote:
Awesome, and unless that's concept art only it's looking like Takumi's going with a 2-d style again. Can't wait.

I wish. I'm inclined to believe it's just character art, not representative of what the in-game graphics will look like. If it were true, though...if they went back to a more 2D graphical presentation, that would really be icing on the cake. :edgey:

Author:  Nick T. Callahan [ Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:59 am ]
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While they can't really reuse any of DD's 3D models, chances are that TGAA will at least utilise its engine. So I very much doubt the game will use sprites. I will certainly miss them, though. :acro:

I'm very curious to see how this game will turn out. The Meiji Restoration was a rather turbulent time in Japan's history, since a lot of changes took place in a relatively short time frame. The whole European/Anglo-American style of judicial and legal systems was a rather radical departure from the feudal system that existed before that. I imagine a big theme of the game will be skepticism over these changes and the process of discovery as to how things are supposed to work.

It certainly is a setting/time period with a lot of potential. I bet at least one defendant will be a former Samurai who can't accept the loss of his status and has resorted to drink and brawling. We might also see Victor Kudo's ancestors and the Fey clan...heck, maybe even Ami Fey herself!

Author:  Lusankya [ Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:01 am ]
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Bad Player wrote:
If only I wasn't avoiding spoilers.


Hmm, did they ever show spoilers during the GS presentations at the TGS? I can't remember any.

Nick T. Callahan wrote:
It certainly is a setting/time period with a lot of potential. I bet at least one defendant will be a former Samurai who can't accept the loss of his status and has resorted to drink and brawling. We might also see Victor Kudo's ancestors and the Fey clan...heck, maybe even Ami Fey herself!


I hope they don't overuse it, though. The judge can be the same looking judge as always, that's fine and a series trademark. Ami Fey or another Fey character is also fine, because in the original trilogy the Fey clan and their prestigious members were always mentioned. But I don't want to see a Payne ancestor in the first case, followed by a Von Karma/Edgeworth ancestor as the main rival, while you try to rescue the Butz ancestor who was witnessed by the Lotta Hart ancestor doing some shady stuff, while in reality he was only stalking an Oldbag ancestor who he thought was a Cindy Block ancestor...

Author:  kwando1313 [ Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:02 am ]
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I don't ever recall the TGS Special Courts being too spoilery. Like... The AJ one revealed Apollo. And the GS1DS one... I don't believe spoiled anything at all.

Author:  SuperAj3 [ Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:16 am ]
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Bad Player wrote:
Cool beans.

If only I wasn't avoiding spoilers.

Have there ever been spoilers in official info reveals for GS?
Spoiler: DD
I know DD did the whole "Fake Edgeworth" screenshots to hide his story.


Still, I'm dying for more info on this game, so I'm not holding back with the news from TGS. I followed DD closely, I kept PLvsAA Spoiler free, and so I guess this time around It's another "Follow the game" hopefully this time without spoiling the ending.

Author:  Gyakuten$aiban [ Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:22 pm ]
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Thing is, why even bother previewing a game unless you want people to be excited for it?

It's true, a series like Gyakuten Saiban is heavily plot-driven but even so, I think that is acknowledged when they're trying to build up hype for the game and they choose what they show to the public so it doesn't violate that.

You can probably follow the preview media without risking a lot, I'd imagine. It's when you start getting too curious that it can bite you in the back (reading stuff that's NOT preview material but actual information pulled from the game). That's something I keep doing and keep paying for, unfortunately.

Author:  LuigiHann [ Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:57 pm ]
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Lusankya wrote:
I hope they don't overuse it, though. The judge can be the same looking judge as always, that's fine and a series trademark. Ami Fey or another Fey character is also fine, because in the original trilogy the Fey clan and their prestigious members were always mentioned. But I don't want to see a Payne ancestor in the first case, followed by a Von Karma/Edgeworth ancestor as the main rival, while you try to rescue the Butz ancestor who was witnessed by the Lotta Hart ancestor doing some shady stuff, while in reality he was only stalking an Oldbag ancestor who he thought was a Cindy Block ancestor...


I agree with you, although I would be amused if they threw in a teenage Oldbag (just to imply that she's that old)

Author:  mujie [ Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:29 pm ]
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LuigiHann wrote:
Lusankya wrote:
I hope they don't overuse it, though. The judge can be the same looking judge as always, that's fine and a series trademark. Ami Fey or another Fey character is also fine, because in the original trilogy the Fey clan and their prestigious members were always mentioned. But I don't want to see a Payne ancestor in the first case, followed by a Von Karma/Edgeworth ancestor as the main rival, while you try to rescue the Butz ancestor who was witnessed by the Lotta Hart ancestor doing some shady stuff, while in reality he was only stalking an Oldbag ancestor who he thought was a Cindy Block ancestor...


I agree with you, although I would be amused if they threw in a teenage Oldbag (just to imply that she's that old)

I think Oldbag would still look the same as normal (even older than that old. :jake:

Author:  D.A. McCoy [ Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:42 am ]
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I wonder if there's any chance of Capcom USA letting us know about the localization at TGS, or if that was a one time thing due to the circumstances around GK2.

Author:  Kevin Ace Attorney [ Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:15 pm ]
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Lusankya wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
If only I wasn't avoiding spoilers.


Hmm, did they ever show spoilers during the GS presentations at the TGS? I can't remember any.

Nick T. Callahan wrote:
It certainly is a setting/time period with a lot of potential. I bet at least one defendant will be a former Samurai who can't accept the loss of his status and has resorted to drink and brawling. We might also see Victor Kudo's ancestors and the Fey clan...heck, maybe even Ami Fey herself!


I hope they don't overuse it, though. The judge can be the same looking judge as always, that's fine and a series trademark. Ami Fey or another Fey character is also fine, because in the original trilogy the Fey clan and their prestigious members were always mentioned. But I don't want to see a Payne ancestor in the first case, followed by a Von Karma/Edgeworth ancestor as the main rival, while you try to rescue the Butz ancestor who was witnessed by the Lotta Hart ancestor doing some shady stuff, while in reality he was only stalking an Oldbag ancestor who he thought was a Cindy Block ancestor...


I think the Fey clan was founded way before DGS. Why would they Fey clan be only a little over 100 years? That makes no sense.

Author:  Lusankya [ Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:01 am ]
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Kevin Ace Attorney wrote:

I think the Fey clan was founded way before DGS. Why would they Fey clan be only a little over 100 years? That makes no sense.


Yeah, I forgot Ami Fey was actually the founder of the Fey clan. So if they want to show a Fey in the game they should use an entirely new character.

Author:  Nick T. Callahan [ Sat Aug 23, 2014 2:00 pm ]
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Lusankya wrote:
I hope they don't overuse it, though. The judge can be the same looking judge as always, that's fine and a series trademark. Ami Fey or another Fey character is also fine, because in the original trilogy the Fey clan and their prestigous members were always mentioned. But I don't want to see a Payne ancestor in the first case, followed by a Von Karma/Edgeworth ancestor as the main rival, while you try to rescue the Butz ancestor who was witnessed by the Lotta Hart ancestor doing some shady stuff, while in reality he was only stalking an Oldbag ancestor who he thought was a Cindy Block ancestor...


Oh yeah, absolutely....I wouldn't want to see that happen either. Even Phoenix having an ancestor that is just like him is stretching suspension of disbelief as it is. But I see no problem with the inclusion of things that are likely to be around during this time period, such as the embroidery business Kudo's ancestors had.

Kevin Ace Attorney wrote:
I think the Fey clan was founded way before DGS. Why would they Fey clan be only a little over 100 years? That makes no sense.


Frankly, the only reason we might have to believe that the Fey clan is older than 100 years (though the Meiji Restoration took place well over 100 years ago at this point) is that the story of the clan's creation is described as a "legend", thus implying it is something from a very long time ago. Otherwise, there is nothing to indicate when exactly Ami Fey lived. Plus, keep in mind that the Fey family predates Ami Fey herself; it's just that it only became a clan when she created the Kurain Channeling Technique.

That said, it's probably still a better idea to have a different Fey character in TGAA.

Author:  grim_tales [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:14 pm ]
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Personally, if this gets localised/translated, I'm really interested to see how this will translate for a Western audience, as the average EU/US gamer probably doesnt know much about Japanese history, could be very interesting.

Author:  henke37 [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:35 pm ]
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Well, I imagine that a lot of Japanese people don't know much either. They are going to need some explanations in all versions of the game.

Author:  Defender123 [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:43 pm ]
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Nick T. Callahan wrote:
While they can't really reuse any of DD's 3D models, chances are that TGAA will at least utilise its engine. So I very much doubt the game will use sprites. I will certainly miss them, though. :acro:

I'm very curious to see how this game will turn out. The Meiji Restoration was a rather turbulent time in Japan's history, since a lot of changes took place in a relatively short time frame. The whole European/Anglo-American style of judicial and legal systems was a rather radical departure from the feudal system that existed before that. I imagine a big theme of the game will be skepticism over these changes and the process of discovery as to how things are supposed to work.

It certainly is a setting/time period with a lot of potential. I bet at least one defendant will be a former Samurai who can't accept the loss of his status and has resorted to drink and brawling. We might also see Victor Kudo's ancestors and the Fey clan...heck, maybe even Ami Fey herself!


I think a Kudo ancestor would be a great idea since Kudo was not a major character so it would not come off as all the old faces showing up again as it might if we had an ancestor of a more established character. Also since the Meiji period was a period of quick social change with several Western ideas being adopted one of Victor's ancestors moaning about the loss of traditional values would fit like a glove.

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