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Blademaster_Orca wrote:
Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
And return to his grape juice... in a Japanese-style teacup.
Don't be ridiculous, he'll drink it straight from the bottle like any cliché Japanese military officer in anime does. Preferably with some geishas and a blush clear across his face.
Oh, you said grape juice... eh, still kinda works.
Well, I was talking about Nick, but hey that works too.
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I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but what's important in the upper right corner of the screen?
There is something that looks similar to an attorney badge!
Looks more like a stylized version of the Chrysanthemum Seal.
But without the proper number of petals, it really just looks like a donut/cookie.
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And the building in the trailer (0:45 seconds in) looks to be inspired by Tokyo Station, I think?
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Or worst case scenario they'll be like "The hell we can't localise this?" and just not bring it here.
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Pierre wrote:
Regarding localisation I'm of a mind they won't localise it and it'll be a simple translation...
Or worst case scenario they'll be like "The hell we can't localise this?" and just not bring it here.
Or worst case scenario they'll be like "The hell we can't localise this?" and just not bring it here.
As far as I know it's been confirmed for western release already.
Edit: Oh, nevermind, that post might have just as likely been fake.
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That's what I just read. It's not like Dual Destinies where it was confirmed for the west as soon as the first trailer was shown.
The game looks interesting enough, I think we can expect to see a english translation. Capcom probably knows that they dug themselves a hole with this whole "lol ace attorney takes place in L.A.".
I think saying that Phoenix's ancestors are from Japan would be the most viable. If they try to say that this took place in America, I am gonna laugh.
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I never understood why Ace Attorney had to be 'localized' in the first place. It seems to be based on a presumption that the majority in the west are too ignorant to embrace anything from a foreign culture.
I concur,
It worked for the first 4 ace attorney games, but eventually it just makes no sense.
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marco23p wrote:
ouboros wrote:
I never understood why Ace Attorney had to be 'localized' in the first place. It seems to be based on a presumption that the majority in the west are too ignorant to embrace anything from a foreign culture.
I concur,
It worked for the first 4 ace attorney games, but eventually it just makes no sense.
I didn't especially think it was a problem in AA5 neither. Nine-tails Vale is no more an oddity than Kurain Village, at least Nine-tails has the fact it's a tourist attraction to justify it's existence.
The problem is AA6 is set in such a culturally significant time period there's no way a localiser CAN brush it off as something simple like that.
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Oh god the music. They completely had me when they referenced the Objection 2001 theme around the end of the trailer.
I completely did not expect that arrangement at all!
I completely did not expect that arrangement at all!
I didn't notice that until you mentioned it!
Crane043 wrote:
Also, this is only my guess... but the composer doesn't really sound like Noriyuki Iwadare from the past games.There is a chance that it might be Kitagawa-san from PL:AA, but it could also be Masakazu Sugimori from the first AA and Ghost Trick.
Sugimori being involved would make me even more excited, as I don't care for most of Iwadare's contributions to the series. Sugimori was pure gold in both GS1 and Ghost Trick, though, so I would be ecstatic to learn that he and Takumi are working together on this game.
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So am I the only one that expects a Lang to show up? They are another family with history.
Yeah, but the Langs are based in a totally different country, so...
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Pierre wrote:
The problem is AA6 is set in such a culturally significant time period there's no way a localiser CAN brush it off as something simple like that.
I don't think we should call it AA6 even if Takumi doesn't see it as a spin-off. There will be a proper AA6 (with a big 6 in its Japanese logo) after all. ;)
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Did anyone else notice the silhouettes at the end of the trailer? The one on the left is Ryuunosuke, but the one on the right is upside down, and doesn't look like our lovely assistant either...
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marco23p wrote:
The game looks interesting enough, I think we can expect to see a english translation. Capcom probably knows that they dug themselves a hole with this whole "lol ace attorney takes place in L.A.".
I think saying that Phoenix's ancestors are from Japan would be the most viable. If they try to say that this took place in America, I am gonna laugh.
I think saying that Phoenix's ancestors are from Japan would be the most viable. If they try to say that this took place in America, I am gonna laugh.
OK but joking aside, I don't see how they can localize this. If they do bring it to the west (fingers crossed) then really the only way I can see it working is if they give Ryuunosuke a line at the end about him thinking of moving to America. I know it's like, the cop-out option but it'll really be the only that makes sense and is believable.
I'm really liking the courtroom and the music in the trailer by the way.
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Skittlemask wrote:
marco23p wrote:
The game looks interesting enough, I think we can expect to see a english translation. Capcom probably knows that they dug themselves a hole with this whole "lol ace attorney takes place in L.A.".
I think saying that Phoenix's ancestors are from Japan would be the most viable. If they try to say that this took place in America, I am gonna laugh.
I think saying that Phoenix's ancestors are from Japan would be the most viable. If they try to say that this took place in America, I am gonna laugh.
OK but joking aside, I don't see how they can localize this. If they do bring it to the west (fingers crossed) then really the only way I can see it working is if they give Ryuunosuke a line at the end about him thinking of moving to America. I know it's like, the cop-out option but it'll really be the only that makes sense and is believable.
I'm really liking the courtroom and the music in the trailer by the way.
Speaking of that there was this funny video on tumblr about that xD Source
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marco23p wrote:
Capcom told IGN, "This title is not confirmed for the west."
That's what I just read. It's not like Dual Destinies where it was confirmed for the west as soon as the first trailer was shown.
The game looks interesting enough, I think we can expect to see a english translation. Capcom probably knows that they dug themselves a hole with this whole "lol ace attorney takes place in L.A.".
I think saying that Phoenix's ancestors are from Japan would be the most viable. If they try to say that this took place in America, I am gonna laugh.
That's what I just read. It's not like Dual Destinies where it was confirmed for the west as soon as the first trailer was shown.
The game looks interesting enough, I think we can expect to see a english translation. Capcom probably knows that they dug themselves a hole with this whole "lol ace attorney takes place in L.A.".
I think saying that Phoenix's ancestors are from Japan would be the most viable. If they try to say that this took place in America, I am gonna laugh.
Do you have a link to the article?
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Ash wrote:
Sorta, though Tokyo Station wasn't opened until Taishou 3 (1914). A lot of Western buildings were built here and there during Meiji.
But Ash, this is GSverse Meiji. 1914 fits right in Meiji. It has to be the original Tokyo Station, where we will be meeting our fellow Detective.
...On that thought, if it's 1914, will there be mention of a "Great War" coming to Japanese shores, and will we get to see Ryuunosuke head into battle?
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henke37 wrote:
So am I the only one that expects a Lang to show up? They are another family with history.
Yeah, but the Langs are based in a totally different country, so...
Yet, if this game does touch a bit on the beginnings of WWI, then Japan has business in northeastern China, fighting with the Germans... ah well, it's probably a long shot at best. I'm of the opinion that "Zheng Fa" is actually based on Taiwan, not mainland China, so they won't be involved.
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
I'm of the opinion that "Zheng Fa" is actually based on Taiwan, not mainland China, so they won't be involved.
Taiwan was a colony of Japan from late 19th century until WWII. So if anything, they'd have more reason to appear.
But the articles all stress the game is set in the late 19th century, so it should feel a bit more like mid-Meiji, instead of early Taishou. I wonder what kind of books Susato reads, actually. I mean, considering the period, the most important would be the Poe stories, the Moonstone and Holmes.... I really should read that book on Japanese translations of detective novels in Meiji one of these days (← yes, I have such a book. It's almost scary).
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I'm aware that Taiwan was a colony. It's exactly why the "House of Lang" wouldn't be big enough to be involved in a video game based on Japanese history.
So what kind of book is it?
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
So what kind of book is it?
これだ. I picked up the weirdest books when I was researching Japanese detetive fiction...
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Bad Player wrote:
henke37 wrote:
So am I the only one that expects a Lang to show up? They are another family with history.
Yeah, but the Langs are based in a totally different country, so...
Plus, the Langs are from Yamazaki's games. I don't think Takumi cares too much for his take on the series.
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irishmarcoos wrote:
Did anyone else notice the silhouettes at the end of the trailer? The one on the left is Ryuunosuke, but the one on the right is upside down, and doesn't look like our lovely assistant either...
Oh geez it looks like he's got a quill or something protruding from his mouth, Blackquill's actual Japanese ancestor?
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Pierre wrote:
The problem is AA6 is set in such a culturally significant time period there's no way a localiser CAN brush it off as something simple like that.
I don't think we should call it AA6 even if Takumi doesn't see it as a spin-off. There will be a proper AA6 (with a big 6 in its Japanese logo) after all. ;)
Takumi invented GS, if anyone is entitled to say "This is a mainstream game worthy of a number!" it's him.
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When I saw this I had to wonder if maybe the new game will use high-quality 2D animated sprites like we were used to before PLvsPWAA? It would be neat, if not just to get a smooth 60fps Ace Attorney game once more.
I had mixed feelings on the presentation of Dual Destinies. loved the 3D models and slick animations, but the UI elements looked washed out and they suffered from the 24~ fps framerate and framerate-stuttering which made them feel overall sluggish. It would be nice with a smoother performance again, and I just love the 2D artwork.
EDIT: Pierre, subjectively I'm with you on that this game is more AA6 than anything else because it's Takumi, but the ground rules were set by Dual Destinies because it already exists as "GS5" in japan and is the latest canonical entry.
Besides, this is said to be a new "series" and not just a single spinoff, apparently, so maybe it's good we might end up refering to it as DGS1-2-3 just like we don't call the AAI games AA5 or AA6.
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It can still be part of the main series, just a prequel.
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You got a source that calls this a new 'series'.
It can still be part of the main series, just a prequel.
It can still be part of the main series, just a prequel.
Kojima: “While it’s not a main-numbered Ace Attorney title, it’s the start of a new series called The Great Ace Attorney. I believe that it’s becoming something that can show that it’s not simply just a derivative title. We can’t say too much about it for the time being, but we’ll be revealing more on the characters and their backgrounds next time, which we hope you all can look forward to. It’s really becoming something that we have high expectations for, so please look forward to it!”
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When I saw this I had to wonder if maybe the new game will use high-quality 2D animated sprites like we were used to before PLvsPWAA? It would be neat, if not just to get a smooth 60fps Ace Attorney game once more.
Oh dear God, I would die from happiness (and then die again from sadness if it didn't get localized) if that were true. It may be too much to hope for, though. Ugghh, don't fill my heart with such dreams.
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Pierre wrote:
You got a source that calls this a new 'series'.
It can still be part of the main series, just a prequel.
It can still be part of the main series, just a prequel.
Kojima: “While it’s not a main-numbered Ace Attorney title, it’s the start of a new series called The Great Ace Attorney. I believe that it’s becoming something that can show that it’s not simply just a derivative title. We can’t say too much about it for the time being, but we’ll be revealing more on the characters and their backgrounds next time, which we hope you all can look forward to. It’s really becoming something that we have high expectations for, so please look forward to it!”
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/04/24/gr ... ew-series/
That's fine by me, excellent news, means there's two series running alongside each other. Ah how Ace Attorney is growing.
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A simple "let's clarify" would fix it right? (Or am I being too hopefull?) At least we get the game in English this way? And it'd give them choice to say Wright has Japanese origins, or if the series was meant to be set in Japan from the get-go.
Well, this has convinced me to save my pennies, and get a Japanese 3DS (and the limited edition of this, I'm not holding back!
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And even if the explanation is there, they're going to wonder why people have English names if the game is supposed to take place in Japan, unless you're suggesting that all of the characters have Japanese names. But then you have to offer an explanation for each punny, meaningful name and any Japanese jokes, wordplay and puns. After all, do you honestly think it would make sense if Japanese characters in Japan talk like ordinary American people? You can imagine how annoying it would be to look at translator's notes just to have a joke explained to me.
Best explanation for me? Explain the setting in-universe rather than out-universe. It would provide an opportunity to apply Translation Convention to the setting, which can explain the localized writing and names. That, or there're a few more details to the setting we don't know yet that could make it easy to localize. Perhaps things will be more clear in the next couple of days.
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Klonoahedgehog wrote:
The logo disappoints me.
Now we need an old timey narrator for this game, like the legend or korra one.
Now we need an old timey narrator for this game, like the legend or korra one.
Good idea! Maybe he'll have Shiro Shinobi's voice or even Tom Kane's narrator voice.
POHLKUNKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
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SuperAj3 wrote:
I wonder if at the beginning of the game in the localisation, they could mention something like: "When beginning the first translations of Ace Attorney back in 2004, we decided to localise the series, giving it a more western feel to appeal to fans. At the time, we would have never seen a game take a strong Japanese historical period as its setting, and thus we would like to clarify the series' stance as being..."
A simple "let's clarify" would fix it right? (Or am I being too hopefull?) At least we get the game in English this way? And it'd give them choice to say Wright has Japanese origins, or if the series was meant to be set in Japan from the get-go.
Well, this has convinced me to save my pennies, and get a Japanese 3DS (and the limited edition of this, I'm not holding back! )
A simple "let's clarify" would fix it right? (Or am I being too hopefull?) At least we get the game in English this way? And it'd give them choice to say Wright has Japanese origins, or if the series was meant to be set in Japan from the get-go.
Well, this has convinced me to save my pennies, and get a Japanese 3DS (and the limited edition of this, I'm not holding back!
)I agree, some context would be most welcome.
A LOT of visual novels usually have "Tips," aka an in-game glossary listing more unfamiliar terms that the average player might not know. For example, Steins;Gate takes place in modern Akihabara with a heavy reliance on otaku culture. Even the Japanese versions had a Tips section on more obscure words and phrases. The recent official English release by JAST also includes this. So it's very easy to explain to the player.
And actually, there are plenty of Japanese people out there who aren't familiar with the Meiji era or their country's entire history. I wouldn't be surprised if they explained things in-game with a similar system. If Dai Gyakuten Saiban ever gets translated, I'm sure they'd do the same for the English release.
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