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Bolt Storm wrote:
Also, my own thoughts on the game: as I said before, it looks interesting, and I'm looking forward to Takumi's take on a period mystery - I just hope they don't lean on "ancestors of known characters" too much. I'll give Ryuunosuke a pass, since they need some way to tie it to the main series, but I'll be disappointed if he works with Maya's great-grandmother and goes up against Edgeworth's great-grandfather or something like that.
Don't be surprised if we run into Nick's ancestors and Ami Fey
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There is no way that that was unintentional. I think they might actually be going for a common ancestor for Phoenix and Apollo.
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Gammalad wrote:
Bolt Storm wrote:
Also, my own thoughts on the game: as I said before, it looks interesting, and I'm looking forward to Takumi's take on a period mystery - I just hope they don't lean on "ancestors of known characters" too much. I'll give Ryuunosuke a pass, since they need some way to tie it to the main series, but I'll be disappointed if he works with Maya's great-grandmother and goes up against Edgeworth's great-grandfather or something like that.
Don't be surprised if we run into Nick's ancestors and Ami Fey
Well they both look like Apollo and Phoenix, and since this is in the past it will probably have something to do with the Fey's, but I personally don't want it to be connected with the Wright's nor the Justice's.
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Even if it does, Tenma Town(?)/Nine-Tails Vale from Dual Destinies was a bit of a disaster and I'd hate to see a game based poorly around such concepts.
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Apollon wrote:
I think the best part might be this:
There is no way that that was unintentional. I think they might actually be going for a common ancestor for Phoenix and Apollo.
There is no way that that was unintentional. I think they might actually be going for a common ancestor for Phoenix and Apollo.
You can tell there's a sign of divergent evolution going on here through their eyebrows.
Bolt Storm wrote:
Also, my own thoughts on the game: as I said before, it looks interesting, and I'm looking forward to Takumi's take on a period mystery - I just hope they don't lean on "ancestors of known characters" too much. I'll give Ryuunosuke a pass, since they need some way to tie it to the main series, but I'll be disappointed if he works with Maya's great-grandmother and goes up against Edgeworth's great-grandfather or something like that.
Of course not. Edgeworth's great-grandfather will be bff to Ryuu here. He came from a long line of defense attorneys before the latest Edgeworth ended up switching professions.
I have a feeling localization will set the characters as immigrants to Japan. It's an easy way to cover up their Americanization tracks, in a way.
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Question is, what will they change? Will it be the same gameplay with a different setting, or include a different style, like AAI to the main series?
I suppose this could be thought of as an AA-verse take on the concept of Pokémon Conquest.
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I translated the game's title via google translate, and it says this:
Adventures of Naruhodo Ryunosuke: Ace Attorney large
And guess what: Naruhodo is a last name, and PW's name in Japan is Naruhodo Ryuichi.
So this is most likely an ancestor to Phoenix.
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What awesome news to come home to after a hard day's work.
Question is, what will they change? Will it be the same gameplay with a different setting, or include a different style, like AAI to the main series?
I suppose this could be thought of as an AA-verse take on the concept of Pokémon Conquest.
Question is, what will they change? Will it be the same gameplay with a different setting, or include a different style, like AAI to the main series?
I suppose this could be thought of as an AA-verse take on the concept of Pokémon Conquest.
I'll bet on the same core gameplay, as it is still GyakuSai, but with something new as a feature
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If Phoenix and Apollo are distantly related, what would that make Trucy to Phoenix?
His daughter.
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I can't say whether this game will be localized, and I don't think the Meiji era hurts those chances. It all depends on how DD sold and probably a bit on how PL vs AA sold/sells. I'm thinking it will stay a download exclusive, unfortunately.
It looks like Takumi got many more ideas from his work in a medieval era in PL vs AA. Can't wait to see him work his magic with this game.
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
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If Phoenix and Apollo are distantly related, what would that make Trucy to Phoenix?
His daughter.
She's not even his daughter now :p
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JesusMonroe wrote:
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If Phoenix and Apollo are distantly related, what would that make Trucy to Phoenix?
His daughter.
She's not even his daughter now :p
Yes she is. He promised.
In any case, even if this is set in the Meiji period, I'm convinced that this game will feature some anachronistic features of technology not expected back in 1912. They won't be computers or anything, but Rube Goldberg contraptions are definitely a thing.
Foreign relations during this age were among the strongest in Japanese history. There's bound to be enough foreigners around for a rather diverse cast of races.
Oh, and also, since it's Meiji, Ryuu here has an excuse to not have a license.
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Yes, I agree that this is probably not going to be hitting Western shores any time soon.
Even if it does, Tenma Town(?)/Nine-Tails Vale from Dual Destinies was a bit of a disaster and I'd hate to see a game based poorly around such concepts.
Even if it does, Tenma Town(?)/Nine-Tails Vale from Dual Destinies was a bit of a disaster and I'd hate to see a game based poorly around such concepts.
Maybe, but you also have to remember that Takumi didn't have a part in Dual Destinies. For all we know he could be excellent at this sort of thing compared to the Eshiro.
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Apollon wrote:
I think the best part might be this:
There is no way that that was unintentional. I think they might actually be going for a common ancestor for Phoenix and Apollo.
There is no way that that was unintentional. I think they might actually be going for a common ancestor for Phoenix and Apollo.
Nah.
It's just called samehead design ;P
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Apollon wrote:
I think the best part might be this:
There is no way that that was unintentional. I think they might actually be going for a common ancestor for Phoenix and Apollo.
There is no way that that was unintentional. I think they might actually be going for a common ancestor for Phoenix and Apollo.
Nah.
It's just called samehead design ;P
Still, I kind of want to believe. Ooooor maybe not, Phoenix and Apollo having the same ancestor is pretty... weird.
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This may be the unpopular opinion, but I think that this has nothing to do with Apollo. And I'm thinking we are going to see a very minimal amount of "returning" characters who have ancestors. The judge will likely be the exception, looking very similar to his descendant. (Though I admit, a De Killer descendant would be pretty awesome)
Basically this. It would feel way too cheap and unoriginal if there were recognizable ancestors of known characters at every turn. One or two familiar faces/names would be okay, but even that would start stretching the suspension of disbelief quite a bit. But I trust Takumi can do a good job writing original new characters, so he'll probably be real careful avoiding common pitfalls of prequels like that.
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Danchat wrote:
This may be the unpopular opinion, but I think that this has nothing to do with Apollo. And I'm thinking we are going to see a very minimal amount of "returning" characters who have ancestors. The judge will likely be the exception, looking very similar to his descendant. (Though I admit, a De Killer descendant would be pretty awesome)
Basically this. It would feel way too cheap and unoriginal if there were recognizable ancestors of known characters at every turn. One or two familiar faces/names would be okay, but even that would start stretching the suspension of disbelief quite a bit. But I trust Takumi can do a good job writing original new characters, so he'll probably be real careful avoiding common pitfalls of prequels like that.
I think having Wright's ancestor is a given, and maybe showing off an older Misty Fey after the Fey channeling technique has been perfected, and maybe Edgeworth's ancestor to act as a mentor to Wright (since the Edgeworth's come from a line of defense attorneys before Miles) I think those are the given ancestors we will see.
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Danchat wrote:
This may be the unpopular opinion, but I think that this has nothing to do with Apollo. And I'm thinking we are going to see a very minimal amount of "returning" characters who have ancestors. The judge will likely be the exception, looking very similar to his descendant. (Though I admit, a De Killer descendant would be pretty awesome)
Basically this. It would feel way too cheap and unoriginal if there were recognizable ancestors of known characters at every turn. One or two familiar faces/names would be okay, but even that would start stretching the suspension of disbelief quite a bit. But I trust Takumi can do a good job writing original new characters, so he'll probably be real careful avoiding common pitfalls of prequels like that.
I think having Wright's ancestor is a given, and maybe showing off an older Misty Fey after the Fey channeling technique has been perfected, and maybe Edgeworth's ancestor to act as a mentor to Wright (since the Edgeworth's come from a line of defense attorneys before Miles) I think those are the given ancestors we will see.
Then who's Ryu's rival? Ken?
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JesusMonroe wrote:
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If Phoenix and Apollo are distantly related, what would that make Trucy to Phoenix?
His daughter.
She's not even his daughter now :p
Unless you mean biologically, Trucy is legally Phoenix's daughter.
As for returning characters, I don't think the point of doing something "completely different" was to keep everything the same, go back a 100 years and then include the ancestors of the characters we've come to know and love. Yes, we'll most likely see a few serious ones, and maybe a few extra for comedic purposes (Gumshoe comes to mind), but I don't think it's going to be obnoxious.
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My fears: The game clearly cannot be localised to be 'America' in any sense. Therefore...will they even bring it to this country?
Though yeah it's a little strange seeing Apollonix there but hey, it's kinda familiar and the outfit is so different it shouldn't matter. I wonder if it's a final design or just concept though.
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Am I the only one who could see the final case being a mixture of the present and past. "Solving a case that was left unsolved for over 100 years".
Gammalad wrote:
I could see a scenario where the events of these cases have led to an event in the present Ace Attorney universe and I could see Nick having to use Maya's abilities to communicate with the people who were on this case. Would be an interesting tie in.
Nah, remember how butthurt everyone was when Phoenix marched in and took over Polly's game? There's no way Nick has a part in this, unless it's just a scene of him figuring out his family tree. Besides...
Danchat wrote:
This may be the unpopular opinion, but I think that this has nothing to do with Apollo. And I'm thinking we are going to see a very minimal amount of "returning" characters who have ancestors. The judge will likely be the exception, looking very similar to his descendant. (Though I admit, a De Killer descendant would be pretty awesome)
...we can't forget that Takumi wants rid of Phoenix. He wanted a complete reboot after the original trilogy, but Capcom intervened. And he's said he's in two minds about the series continuing now (i.e., Dual Destinies). Presumably making the new protag Nick's ancestor is Takumi's way of appeasing the bosses whilst getting the reboot he's wanted for years. I can imagine him thinking, "How can I ensure there are no returning characters? I know! I'll set it way in the past!"
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...and I just bet that the Judge in this game is going to appear identical to our Udgey~ 
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I really wanted to have more Apollo but this is okay too, can't say i'm not excited.
He's basically a time-traveling Apollo either way...
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Gammalad wrote:
Joe4evr wrote:
Danchat wrote:
This may be the unpopular opinion, but I think that this has nothing to do with Apollo. And I'm thinking we are going to see a very minimal amount of "returning" characters who have ancestors. The judge will likely be the exception, looking very similar to his descendant. (Though I admit, a De Killer descendant would be pretty awesome)
Basically this. It would feel way too cheap and unoriginal if there were recognizable ancestors of known characters at every turn. One or two familiar faces/names would be okay, but even that would start stretching the suspension of disbelief quite a bit. But I trust Takumi can do a good job writing original new characters, so he'll probably be real careful avoiding common pitfalls of prequels like that.
I think having Wright's ancestor is a given, and maybe showing off an older Misty Fey after the Fey channeling technique has been perfected, and maybe Edgeworth's ancestor to act as a mentor to Wright (since the Edgeworth's come from a line of defense attorneys before Miles) I think those are the given ancestors we will see.
I assume you meant Ami Fey, there. If Misty was around in that time, she'd've been older than Oldbag is now when she gave birth to Mia.
Edgeworth ancestor... I'm really not sure.
I'm also way too tired to think of exactly why, but I'm not sure if that's a great idea at all.Thane wrote:
As for returning characters, I don't think the point of doing something "completely different" was to keep everything the same, go back a 100 years and then include the ancestors of the characters we've come to know and love. Yes, we'll most likely see a few serious ones, and maybe a few extra for comedic purposes (Gumshoe comes to mind), but I don't think it's going to be obnoxious.
My point is that it stretches suspension of disbelief way too much to have these characters meet each other and through some freak accident their descendants all meet 100 years later under similar circumstances. Unless the families all agreed to keep in touch with one another, which really retcons some of our existing knowledge, it's almost unjustifiable.
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I'm pretty damn stoked about this, actually had a wee gander through the Meiji period just outta curiosity.
My fears: The game clearly cannot be localised to be 'America' in any sense. Therefore...will they even bring it to this country?
My fears: The game clearly cannot be localised to be 'America' in any sense. Therefore...will they even bring it to this country?
They can just set the whole thing in Japan with American characters. Done.
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Ooh, I just noticed that the scan looks like it has a screenshot in the bottom right; can't wait for the issue to come out so that we can see the full screen!
No one else really noticed I think! I mentioned it on the first page :-) looks like an anime cutscene to me!
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I'm pretty damn stoked about this, actually had a wee gander through the Meiji period just outta curiosity.
My fears: The game clearly cannot be localised to be 'America' in any sense. Therefore...will they even bring it to this country?
My fears: The game clearly cannot be localised to be 'America' in any sense. Therefore...will they even bring it to this country?
They can just set the whole thing in Japan with American characters. Done.
Hmmm...fair point, the Meiji period was substantially about the modernisation of Japan meeting the rest of the West wasn't it? Still I'm just panicky and excited, it's the dawn of a brand new era (literally) for GS one that can have ABSOLUTELY ZERO CONNECTIONS (time-travelling Athena aside) to the main series.
Means that no pre-existing characters can show up and derail the plot like Phoenix did for Apollo in AJ.
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deathbyjaguar wrote:
Ooh, I just noticed that the scan looks like it has a screenshot in the bottom right; can't wait for the issue to come out so that we can see the full screen!
No one else really noticed I think! I mentioned it on the first page :-) looks like an anime cutscene to me!
Looks like an intro cutscene to me. Animation may be done by Bones once more. I'm sure looking forward to it.
For some reason, that quote of his reminds me of something along the lines of "I'm the man who's gonna be the
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Klonoahedgehog wrote:
Would it be possible that the Dekillers would be entioned somewhere in this game?
If i got my info right here this takes place around the time they started.
If i got my info right here this takes place around the time they started.
It would be really cool, actually, referencing the origin of de Killers.
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I accidentally confused Ami with Misty. Introducing Ami may actually make some sense... but I don't think they'd go so far to make Nick actually distantly related to Maya. I'd hope Takumi is above that sort of weirdness.
The Meiji Era ended 58 years before Misty was born, y'know...
Gammalad wrote:
So our new layer friend looks like a mix of Nick and Apollo interesting, anyway is this a confirmed AA6? Or is it a spin off like the Investigation series?
Layer friend...? xD
Bolt Storm wrote:
I'll give Ryuunosuke a pass, since they need some way to tie it to the main series, but I'll be disappointed if he works with Maya's great-grandmother and goes up against Edgeworth's great-grandfather or something like that.
Nah, we all know Edgeworth is a black sheep in the family of defense attorneys, hahah.
More likely, it'll be about young attorney Naruhodou, with his young assistant Ayasato-chan, and his mentor, veteran attorney Mitsurugi. Then, the protagonist is challenged with going up against Prosecutor Karuma.
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And I just realized. Meiji period means Gagaku remixes of Ace Attorney themes, holy cripes. (Well, so-called 'remixes' that should be original pieces, at least.)
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1/3/19 edit: The project has officially been moved to a new blog at https://gsvsaa.blogspot.com/ Further updates will be pending.
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linkenski wrote:
I know plenty of ppl who jumped on board because of Dual Destinies, but this idea... I don't know if Capcom would risk it. There was a reason they decided against localising the quiz-dlc in Dual Destinies, you know.
Well they only did that because it was actually near impossible to localize. You had to know how kiminos were put on traditionally, stroke order, stuff like that.
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Gammalad wrote:
So how it looks now the Ace Attorney series now has 3 branches Shu Takumi working on the new Dai Gyukaten Saiban,Takeshi Yamazaki and the Dual Destinies team working on the main series, and then the team working on Ace Attorney Investigations on the side. Does this sound about right?
There is three yes, but only two are being followed at the moment, Dai and AA or AAI, seeing as its the same team currently working on them both.
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