Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:23 pm

Krystal-Beatrice

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Recently, Vandal (an spanish magazine about videogames) informed that Koch Media would be the company who would release AAI in Spain, instead of nintendo.

A friend of mine in the community of fans "Ace Attorney Spain" visited Kock Media's website and found this information about the game:

Title: Ace Attorney Investigations™: Miles Edgeworth:
Company: Capcom
Developer: Motohide Eshiro
Plataform: Nintendo DS
Genre: Aventura
Language: Manual in Spanish
Release Date: February 19th 2010
Price: 39,99 €
PEGI: tbc
Website: http://ace-attorney.com

He, obviously, was scared and to confirm is it was really going to be translated, contacted them with e-mail. This is the reply he got:

Dear User:

We've know that you send e-mail to Kochmedia asking about the translation of the game, and we want you to know that we really are the distributos of the game in Spain, and It will be on sale in February, but unfortunately, only the manual will be in Spanish and the software in english.

Sincerely

Technichal support | Kock Media, S.L. Unipersonal

Spoiler: "Original in Spanish"

After that, we, the fans in Ace Attorney Spain, an affiliated web of Court-Records decided to make a petition online. And not only for informing, but also we'd like to have your support and I came here representing the community (since I was one of the main Administrators) to request your help.

http://www.petitiononline.com/1a2b3c4j/petition.html

All AA fans please sign this petition! And please harass Koch Media so we can get the game in Spanish!

And I almost forgot. Sorry If I said something wrong or the translation isn't accurate...

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:33 pm

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I speak Spanish, and this is very sad
Help please! :uramidn:

This is the petition:

http://www.petitiononline.com/1a2b3c4j/petition.html

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:35 pm

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D: That sucks.

I'm British, but I'll sign the petition.

EDIT: Done.

... I think. I'm not good at Spanish. DX

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:37 pm

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I'm from Spain and I actually think that this isn't fair... They have translated all the games and now... They aren't going to translate AAI? That's so sad...! I wanted to play it in Spanish, because my English is horrible. (I played T&T in English, and I didn't understand even the half of the story. D:) I would like to help...

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:47 pm

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Who the hell is going to buy that game if it's not translated? Sorry, but is this publisher an idiot? This is extremely unwise and uncaring. I will definitely sign the petition.

Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:56 pm

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That's retarded. I've played all Gyakuten games in both English and Spanish, and it's always been a lot of fun. Why wouldn't them? Is anyone aware if this will repeat itself with French, Italian or German?

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:58 pm

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:07 pm

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Thanks for the support! Seriously, thanks a bunch :acro:

Delsy wrote:

I'm from Spain and I actually think that this isn't fair... They have translated all the games and now... They aren't going to translate AAI? That's so sad...! I wanted to play it in Spanish, because my English is horrible. (I played T&T in English, and I didn't understand even the half of the story. D:) I would like to help...

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:39 pm

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I am not spanich but that is so UNFAIR!
That´s so crappy foolish crap unfair
I´ll support your petition!! :grey:

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:02 pm

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Krystal-Beatrice wrote:

A friend of mine in the community of fans "Ace Attorney Spain" visited Kock Media's website and found this information about the game:

pffffft hahahahaha

I'll sign the petition just for that.

fuck

Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:05 am

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Thats really kind of pointless, isn't it? Why would you on;y translate the manual and not the game itself? It is a text-heavy game after all and we all already know how to make Edgy run around in circles, pestering the cops.

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:15 am

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I'm sure there must be SOME logical reason for this, although I really can't think of one....

Still, I'll sign it, it does seem a bit stupid on their part....

EDIT: Oh, I was number 97....

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:32 am

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Koch Media is a son of a bitch!

*signs petition*

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:08 am

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:06 am

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I signed too, even though I'm not really concerned by this problem (I'll play the US version, so...). But what I really don't understand why the game won't be published by Nintendo itself (in fact, I didn't know the previous games were indeed published by them O_O).
I understand not releasing a game in one area (like they did, or more exactly didn't for Another Code: R in North America), but for just one country?! :eh?:

Is this because the game will only be released 2 days after the US version? Nah, that makes very little sense :yogi:

Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:15 am

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In the UK here, but I signed your petition, good luck! :)

Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:19 pm

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I signed as well. I can very well relate to the situation - Just exchange "Spanish" with "German"; a nightmare that hasn't come true yet, thankfully, but it might as well happen since Ace Attorney isn't that popular in Germany. I wish you the best of luck, people! You have to get your translation!

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:42 pm

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IMMAH SIGNIN' YAH PETITION!

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Even though I can't read spanish...

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:53 pm

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Woah, we already have 244 signatures!!! Thanks a bunch, really! And also, thanks for posting in on the main web :acro:

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:44 pm

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You heard the man lets do some damage... i mean harass :uramidn:

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:42 pm

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Signed the other day. You'd think Koch Media would realize the economic loss they'd suffer as a result of not translating the game into Spanish...

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:56 pm

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Erm... I think we're missing the whole 'cause and effect' picture here. We've got the 'effect': No Spanish Localization; but we don't have a cause. Additionally, wasn't Capcom Japan behind the English Localizations for the previous AA titles? Thus, isn't it the developer, not necessarily the publisher, that's behind the localization? Admittedly, as an American, I don't know anything about Koch Media (And a look at their website isn't particularly informative), but at the same time I think clawing at Koch Media is tantamount to barking up the wrong tree. I think this is an issue with Capcom's offices.

Also, remember, AAI is the first AA game that's been given a near simultaneous international release. Considering how comparatively quickly we're getting this title I'm not entirely surprised some concessions were made. (Granted, a lack of a Spanish Localization is a strange one.)

Anyways, I just sent an email to Koch Media UK, the email was more about learning the story behind what happened rather then 'OMG where's my Language' (Not that this response isn't justified).

Quote:

Dear KochMedia,

I am an administrator of the Ace-Attorney fansite, Court-Records.net; It has come to our attention that your offices will be behind the publishing of Capcom's DS video game 'Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth' due to be released in February, at least in Spain.

Right now, the Fans are rather upset that the Spanish demography will be deprived of the title in their native language. However, I am not convinced this a deliberate act of neglect, that there was a cause and effect involved. Would you be so kind as to research the story behind the absence of a Spanish Localization?

Strictly educational in nature, would it be possible to explain what KochMedia's role is, as the game's publisher, and explain some of the responsibilities of video game publishers as opposed to game developers, and at what level Localization is involved?

Much obliged.

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:01 pm

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True Wooster... thanks for the interest.
await the response.

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:27 pm

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JJJAGUAR wrote:

True Wooster... thanks for the interest.
await the response.

Hehe jawi, you have to practice more your english :-P

Wooster wrote:

Erm... I think we're missing the whole 'cause and effect' picture here. We've got the 'effect': No Spanish Localization; but we don't have a cause. Additionally, wasn't Capcom Japan behind the English Localizations for the previous AA titles? Thus, isn't it the developer, not necessarily the publisher, that's behind the localization? Admittedly, as an American, I don't know anything about Koch Media (And a look at their website isn't particularly informative), but at the same time I think clawing at Koch Media is tantamount to barking up the wrong tree. I think this is an issue with Capcom's offices.

Also, remember, AAI is the first AA game that's been given a near simultaneous international release. Considering how comparatively quickly we're getting this title I'm not entirely surprised some concessions were made. (Granted, a lack of a Spanish Localization is a strange one.)

Anyways, I just sent an email to Koch Media UK, the email was more about learning the story behind what happened rather then 'OMG where's my Language' (Not that this response isn't justified).

Quote:

Dear KochMedia,

I am an administrator of the Ace-Attorney fansite, Court-Records.net; It has come to our attention that your offices will be behind the publishing of Capcom's DS video game 'Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth' due to be released in February, at least in Spain.

Right now, the Fans are rather upset that the Spanish demography will be deprived of the title in their native language. However, I am not convinced this a deliberate act of neglect, that there was a cause and effect involved. Would you be so kind as to research the story behind the absence of a Spanish Localization?

Strictly educational in nature, would it be possible to explain what KochMedia's role is, as the game's publisher, and explain some of the responsibilities of video game publishers as opposed to game developers, and at what level Localization is involved?

Much obliged.

Thanks, Wooster. I didn't think about that, seriously :larry:

Thanks a bunch!!

In my opinion, one posibility may be that the europe release for T&T was so delayed, that I know a bunch of people who bought the english version... it seems reasonable somehow.... Well, nevermind. Thanks, again. :minuki:

Also, for whoever edited my post, thanks XD (my english just fails)

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:05 am

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I can speak...limited spanish. But anyway I do not see a reason for this at all! 121 I think.

Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:10 pm

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Yeah, I'm Petitionee 461 - This is simply inexcuseable and unacceptable, for this day and age...!

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:00 pm

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Wooster wrote:

Also, remember, AAI is the first AA game that's been given a near simultaneous international release. Considering how comparatively quickly we're getting this title I'm not entirely surprised some concessions were made. (Granted, a lack of a Spanish Localization is a strange one.)

I see I'm not the only one thinking that way.

Quote:

Thus, isn't it the developer, not necessarily the publisher, that's behind the localization? Admittedly, as an American, I don't know anything about Koch Media (And a look at their website isn't particularly informative), but at the same time I think clawing at Koch Media is tantamount to barking up the wrong tree. I think this is an issue with Capcom's offices.

I think it depends on the game...
For the American localization, there's no doubt it's Capcom behind it. However, for European languages, I'm pretty sure the localization is done by the publisher, when it's different from the developer : for Europe (Spain not included), it looks like the game will be published by Nintendo, therefore I'm pretty sure they're the one localizing the game. However, it won't be published by Nintendo in Spain, but by Koch Media instead... and since they're not Nintendo, it looks like they can't (because of a lack of time and money probably) localize the game by themselve, so they'll probably just take the US localization and only translate the manual.

It's just like what happened for The Worlds Ends With You, published in Europe by Ubisoft, but which wasn't translated in any European languages. The only language available was English, probably from the US localization.

So that's why I believe the problem comes from the publisher of the game, not the developer.

Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:29 am

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Thanks for the input L~A. Now that you mention it, I seem to recall an article where Nintendo of America was behind the localization for Professor Layton and the Curious Village, which by process of elimination would make it the Publisher's role in that particular case.

While I wasn't able to come up with much when I was looking at Koch Media's website before I wrote the email, I did see that they do publish games for "Nintendo". So I would assume they have to be doing something right if Nintendo isn't doing all of their publishing in house. Unless of course there's some crazy legislation or similar red tape that puts a cap on that.

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:45 pm

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Oh, what the hell.
I'm spanish, I've played all the AA games in spanish (though it wouldn't be a problem for me if I had to play it/them in english), and this affects me. I love how many of you aren't affected by this, but still support. Thank you all!

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:57 pm

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I'm not Spanish, but come on.
We live in 2009.
Is possible a thing like this? =P

Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:42 pm

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I've posted this in a non-ace-attorney-related spanish forum, so hopefully we'll get some more signatures.

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:47 am

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I'm American and only speak a little Spanish(I can read in Spanish if I have a Spanish-English dictionary to look up words I don't know at hand), and signed it. Regardless of the reason they decided not to release a Spanish version, it's kinda lame. They're only hurting sales by leaving out the fans who don't understand English very well or don't understand it at all. In a text heavy game like this, it's vital that the player understand what's going on, and people understand things written in their native language better than in a secondary language.

Translating the manual, but not the game is kinda doing it halfway.

Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:23 pm

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F//#@!!* Capcom :grey:

¡¡ i really NEED the game in spanish ¡¡i've played all of them in english but my english isn't good enough to understand all, i need to play it in spanish for enjoy them :(

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:15 pm

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:55 pm

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This is rather unusual... I mean, every other game out there is translated into Spanish (And not to mention tons of other languages), so why all of a sudden do they NOT want to translate this? There are TONS of Spanish speaking people that play AA so WTF Capcom, WTF?

BTW I'm #879 on the petition.

Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:48 pm

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And, I wonder: ¿Will this be sent to Koch Media? ¿When?

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:27 pm

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Maybe, but the game isn't going to get a Russian translation... Until Disney stops being the only one who makes Russian-only games.

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:35 pm

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PhyOS wrote:

And, I wonder: ¿Will this be sent to Koch Media? ¿When?

You speak spanish, right?:

Ya nos hemos comunicado con Koch Media, al menos con el servicio técnico, nos han dicho que el motivo de la no traducción es la alta pirateria en España, y que la petición online no cambiara ese hecho.

La verdad, sacar el juego en ingles solo aumentara la pirateria, nadie comprara un juego que no entiende, pero si lo descargara :yuusaku:

Si entendiste lo que acabo de decir traducelo para que todos lo entiendan, por favor :meekins:

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Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:43 pm

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Oh boy, this is really a problem!

I know you spanish, and I know the fact that the Capcom's masterpiece was only translated in english here, in Europe...fortunately the italians don't have such this problem, but I want to help you for the translate ;)

Re: Ace Attorney Investigations won't be translated to Spanish

Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:37 pm

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OMG!

We contacted with Koch Media by e-mail and they told us that the game will reach Europe totaly in English, not in French, not in German and neither in Italian.....that is, if we trust in Koach Media Spain.

:larry:

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