The witch trials, eh? Hmm...
Umm...
Yeah, no idea what those are
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| Author: | JapaneseGIRL [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:33 am ] |
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http://www.capcom.co.jp/gyakutensaiban/10th.html Gyakuten Saiban series 10th anniversary (countdown?) site ???x??? http://www.capcom.co.jp/gyakutensaiban/ 魔女裁判 = the witch trials...? |
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| Author: | Jean Descole [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:52 am ] |
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The witch trials, eh? Hmm... Umm... Yeah, no idea what those are
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| Author: | DeMatador [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:16 am ] |
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Woo 10 years! Did anyone else notice that yesterday, October 11, was actually the 9th anniversary of the series? "Gyakuten Saiban" was first released October 11, 2001. So we're actually 364 days away from the 10th anniversary. Yay? If I'm not mistaken, that book reads, in romaji, "Majo Saiban". Which, if it does mean "witch trials", kinda creeps me out, but I can't wait to know what it is. I cleaned up the site's picture a bit, and it looks like this: Spoiler: It seems to have, apart from the "Witch Trials" book, some sort of scroll, an ancient candle holder, a feather... and I can't make out what those things on the little tray are. All of them over a wooden desk. Either way, it seems as if the desk's owner were writing something. Could anyone with a lot of free time on their hands please translate the 10th anniversary site? It seems to have interviews and other possibly interesting info, and Google Translator doesn't help. And I don't know about everyone else, but "witch trials" makes me think of the Misty Fey incident... Whatever it is, it'll probably be cool/great/amazing. And, like I once said, with GK2 coming out, I'd be alright if it were a trading card game. EDIT: Also, J-GIRL, what do you mean by "countdown"? I see nothing of the sort, aside from a bunch of "10"s, but those make sense. |
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| Author: | shadowofedgeworth [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:16 am ] |
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I'll be eagerly looking forward to whatever translations are forthcoming. Particularly related to that "countdown?" business. 
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| Author: | Bad Player [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:18 am ] |
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Is that what's written on the book in the ???x??? thing? Maybe it's what Edgey does in GK2... or it could be some completely new thing. It would be awesome if they have something special for the 10th anniversary :3 Also, katakana! Yay! I tried reading/translating some stuff, and would be very happy if someone told me how close I am... :3 Spoiler: katakana |
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| Author: | DeMatador [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:25 am ] |
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Bad Player wrote: Also, katakana! Yay! I tried reading/translating some stuff, and would be very happy if someone told me how close I am... :3 Spoiler: katakana I think "guzzu" means "goods", since... well, the button leads to an URL ending in "goods.html". Same with the other buttons :P Based on the context, I'm guessing you got everything right, BP. Thanks, and please keep the translations coming! :D |
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| Author: | Bad Player [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:31 am ] |
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...I swear I didn't notice that URL things xD Also, since I don't know only kanji, and can only read (different from understand) hiragana, I don't think you are going to get much more translation from me xD |
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| Author: | Rov [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:40 am ] |
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DeMatador wrote: It seems to have, apart from the "Witch Trials" book, some sort of scroll, an ancient candle holder, a feather... and I can't make out what those things on the little tray are. All of them over a wooden desk. Either way, it seems as if the desk's owner were writing something. The feather would be a quill pen, and the things in the little tray would be a bottle of ink and its cap, corroborating with your "writing something" hypothesis. Personally, the first thing I think of upon hearing "witch trials" is the Salem witch trials of 1692/93. Not sure why Japan would much care about that. Perhaps it will have something to do with persecution towards the Fey clan...? Edit: Actually, the whole "???x???" brings to mind the recent news about Level-5 and Takumi working on a new "Gyakuten" project. |
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| Author: | shadowofedgeworth [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:53 am ] |
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Gyakuten Phoenix wrote: Edit: Actually, the whole "???x???" brings to mind the recent news about Level-5 and Takumi working on a new "Gyakuten" project. My thoughts precisely. Here's hoping. 
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| Author: | Stealth Assassin [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:58 am ] |
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DeMatador wrote: EDIT: Also, J-GIRL, what do you mean by "countdown"? I see nothing of the sort, aside from a bunch of "10"s, but those make sense. I don't see anything about a countdown either, just see the 10th anniversary stuff. Bad Player wrote: Also, katakana! Yay! I tried reading/translating some stuff, and would be very happy if someone told me how close I am... :3 You did a good job, since you got all the ones you guessed right. The one with the kanji just says series official site. First thing I thought of when I saw the ???x??? was a Capcom collaboration like all the stuff they did at TGS, wonder if it is. And thinking of the word witch, somehow made me think it was going to be a game with Trucy lol, but it's missing a kanji for it to say magical girl lol. |
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| Author: | DeMatador [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:06 am ] |
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Gyakuten Phoenix wrote: DeMatador wrote: It seems to have, apart from the "Witch Trials" book, some sort of scroll, an ancient candle holder, a feather... and I can't make out what those things on the little tray are. All of them over a wooden desk. Either way, it seems as if the desk's owner were writing something. The feather would be a quill pen, and the things in the little tray would be a bottle of ink and its cap, corroborating with your "writing something" hypothesis. Personally, the first thing I think of upon hearing "witch trials" is the Salem witch trials of 1692/93. Not sure why Japan would much care about that. Perhaps it will have something to do with persecution towards the Fey clan...? Which all connects in my mind as "somebody is writing about the persecution of Misty Fey after DL-6". And after the debunking of the "Gyakuten XX" rumor, I rather not get my hopes up for that collaboration being AA-related. |
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| Author: | Bolt Storm [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:01 am ] |
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Well, this is... bizarre. I haven't the faintest idea what it could be, maybe a long-in-advance hint of something else coming up? (As an aside @ BP: I'm in the same boat; first semester Japanese student here. I can read hiragana/katakana but not understand it.) |
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| Author: | Asa Turney [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:15 am ] |
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Whoa, th-that's fascinating~...  I thought about Misty Fey, too! Except my thought process went like: super fancy desk -> Edgeworth-ish -> + oldness factor -> Edgeworth family past? -> Edgeworth's DAD -> DL-6 -> Misty Fey! ... xD; Edgey would not be proud of my terrible logic.Misty Fey on trial as a witch sounds super interesting, and pretty believable... but I think quill pens are a little ancient for 2001.  Looks even further into the past than that... or maybe a different setting... I dunno... There's definitely not enough to go on here, but I'm already dying to know more! Whoa, now that it's been mentioned, ???×??? does kind of imply... crossover-ish-ness...  If the prospect of that Level 5 teamup were to rise from the ashes... how amazingly awesome that would be... Anyway, wow, congratulations to the AA series on 10 (generously rounded up xP) years!! That's amazing. I wish I'd been around the fandom for that long, to truly experience how far the series has come. 
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| Author: | Neni [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:23 am ] |
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I'm not gonna make any assumption about whatever the meaning of this may be now, but rather will allow myself to be surprised! I'm happy with everything new Gyakuten related that they give us. I just hope that, whatever it is, there's some Naruhodo or Odoroki in it. I'm missing Nick n' Polly. ^^; |
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| Author: | kamapon [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:52 am ] |
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 Can the witch trials have anything to do with this? Sega asked Capcom if they could use the logo for Tshirts for a contest and they made this for Bayonetta. It makes sense to me. |
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| Author: | grim_tales [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:39 am ] |
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The thought of something special for the 10th anniversary is intriguing. Maybe its this GS XX thing...? |
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| Author: | Asa Turney [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:40 am ] |
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Wow!!  About the Bayonetta thing... Awesome find.That sure looks like the answer... whatever it may be... *unfamiliar with "Bayonetta"*  Anyway, I'm too busy enjoying trying to read through the comments on this Japanese article about the website update. A great majority of them seem to be suggesting a connection to, uh...something completely different.  ...No; I'm amused but mostly disturbed by the thought. xP...And the others claim that "??? × ???" = "Naruhodo × Mitsurugi".  (or "Mitsurigi × Itonoko", whichever you prefer...)
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| Author: | jaydrick0620 [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:32 am ] |
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I am learning some Japanese. I tried "My Japanese Coach" on the DS, So I can read a bit. |
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| Author: | Myles Orly [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:35 am ] |
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This witch trial thing must be connected to the DL-6 because whats the one golden rule of the series: Everything is connected to DL-6! |
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| Author: | Mr. Bear Jew [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:45 am ] |
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DeMatador wrote: Gyakuten Phoenix wrote: DeMatador wrote: It seems to have, apart from the "Witch Trials" book, some sort of scroll, an ancient candle holder, a feather... and I can't make out what those things on the little tray are. All of them over a wooden desk. Either way, it seems as if the desk's owner were writing something. The feather would be a quill pen, and the things in the little tray would be a bottle of ink and its cap, corroborating with your "writing something" hypothesis. Personally, the first thing I think of upon hearing "witch trials" is the Salem witch trials of 1692/93. Not sure why Japan would much care about that. Perhaps it will have something to do with persecution towards the Fey clan...? Which all connects in my mind as "somebody is writing about the persecution of Misty Fey after DL-6". I thought it was stated that she simply disappeared. I don't recall anyone throughout the entire series mentioning a persecution. |
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| Author: | TheBaronAndEma [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:53 am ] |
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Looking around the site, here's the info I've gathered: The top page seems to be a compilation of congratulation messages from people who have worked on the GS/GK/AA series. They are, in order: Masakazu Sugimori (杉森 雅和), composer of GS1/PW:AA's music Akemi Kimura (木村 明美), composer of GS2/JFA's music Noriyuki Iwadare (岩垂 徳行), composer of GS3/GK1&2's music Toshihiko Horiyama (堀山俊彦) composer of GS4/AJ's music Kumiko Suekane (スエカネクミコ), character designer Tatsuro Iwamoto (岩元 辰郎), character designer Kazuya Nuri (塗 和也) character designer Hirohumi Kurita (栗田 博文), conductor of the orchestra concerts Tomu Ranju (蘭寿 とむ）, actress who played Phoenix in the Takarazuka Revue musical Kei Suzuki (鈴木圭), director of the Takarazuka Revue musical There is also an interview with Shu Takumi, the creator of the Ace Attorney series. If anyone is interested we then could try to translate the messages/interview. And what's with this 'witch trial"? I can't see the kanji on the book when i go to the site.... |
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| Author: | Mit Chan [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:34 am ] |
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I think despite them saying "there is no Gyakuten game". This new site/ anniversary for GS , His statement and a new system(which usually means a new game). Is all too much evidence not too ignore . . . |
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| Author: | grim_tales [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:42 am ] |
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I agree with this... I think with the 3DS there will be a new Gyakuten game, if not GS5 yet maybe this project Capcom and Level 5 are working on... And the 3DS is out pretty soon next year. |
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| Author: | End Quote [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:49 am ] |
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Let's just hope we're not hyping for an artbook or something... Maybe the book is about Ami Fey? |
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| Author: | dirtypantsdan [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:52 am ] |
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Ah this is great, can't wait for some more translations. All this could be potential build up for something awesome. |
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| Author: | Gyakuten$aiban [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:52 pm ] |
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That writing isn't on the book when I visit the site. I think they may have let something slip accidentally. |
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| Author: | Wooster [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:17 pm ] |
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I don't have much to add to this topic except...  LOL @ using the Magic Wand tool. You would've thought they'd have the original PSDs. ~_~_~_~_~_~ More seriously, I don't think this is going to be a game project. Kenji 2 was just announced. You don't want to give gamers a choice between games. They want us to buy both. Announcing 2 games smells like shooting yourself in the foot with regards to profits. I also doubt it's going to be another musical or concert. Seems too 'big' to be something we've already seen. ~_~_~_~_~_~ Also, something to note...  On the anniversary site, while it does mix the official art from GS2-DS to Kenji 2, it doesn't feature anyone unique to the Kenji series that falls under aid or rival. EG. No Lang, Kay, or Judgette. To that end, I'm getting the implicit declaration that this is Saiban series related. |
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| Author: | Gyakuten$aiban [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:30 pm ] |
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Wooster wrote: More seriously, I don't think this is going to be a game project. Kenji 2 was just announced. You don't want to give gamers a choice between games. They want us to buy both. Announcing 2 games smells like shooting yourself in the foot with regards to profits. I also doubt it's going to be another musical or concert. Seems too 'big' to be something we've already seen. But you have to consider that we are the precipice of the 3DS' with many projects already announced and more to come. Among them could be a Gyakuten Saiban revival as Kenji 2 is a DS game. CR should be watching that front page carefully for the months leading up to Kenji 2's launch. The fact that they changed the image to something more nondescript means they may very well be working on something new and different. It's on the Gyakuten Saiban site so that means whatever it is will be related to the franchise. |
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| Author: | Bad Player [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:31 pm ] |
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Gyakuten$aiban wrote: Wooster wrote: More seriously, I don't think this is going to be a game project. Kenji 2 was just announced. You don't want to give gamers a choice between games. They want us to buy both. Announcing 2 games smells like shooting yourself in the foot with regards to profits. I also doubt it's going to be another musical or concert. Seems too 'big' to be something we've already seen. But you have to consider that we are the precipice of the 3DS' with many projects already announced and more to come. Among them could be a Gyakuten Saiban revival as Kenji 2 is a DS game. CR should be watching that front page carefully for the months leading up to Kenji 2's launch. The fact that they changed the image to something more nondescript means they may very well be working on something new and different. It's on the Gyakuten Saiban site so that means whatever it is will be related to the franchise. Releasing GK2 on the DS and some other game, like GS5, on the 3DS would just guarantee that GK2 is a flop. |
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| Author: | grim_tales [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:36 pm ] |
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Maybe it wouldnt do as well but maybe as one of the last DS games why would it be a flop? |
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| Author: | Bad Player [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:37 pm ] |
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Because I'm assuming that most people, if they had to choose between two games that were similar, but with one for the DS and one for the 3DS, they would go for the 3DS. (That is, instead of evenly splitting sales and having both of them sell okay, the 3DS one sells well and the DS one sells poorly.) I'm with Wooster, that it's probably not a game. I also think the whole Saiban series characters thing is a good observation, and I think they definitely would've had Kay or Lang up there if they were involved. I'm fine with it not being a game... considering all the other awesome stuff they've done that isn't a game, I'm sure it'll be great. |
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| Author: | Gyakuten$aiban [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:39 pm ] |
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Regardless, I am convinced this ??? x ??? thing is a major project for the series. Unless Capcom's trying to use their official Saiban site as a vector to announce something tangential to the series (which...would be really weird), expect good things. |
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| Author: | Wooster [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:46 pm ] |
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Bad Player wrote: Gyakuten$aiban wrote: Wooster wrote: More seriously, I don't think this is going to be a game project. Kenji 2 was just announced. You don't want to give gamers a choice between games. They want us to buy both. Announcing 2 games smells like shooting yourself in the foot with regards to profits. I also doubt it's going to be another musical or concert. Seems too 'big' to be something we've already seen. But you have to consider that we are the precipice of the 3DS' with many projects already announced and more to come. Among them could be a Gyakuten Saiban revival as Kenji 2 is a DS game. CR should be watching that front page carefully for the months leading up to Kenji 2's launch. The fact that they changed the image to something more nondescript means they may very well be working on something new and different. It's on the Gyakuten Saiban site so that means whatever it is will be related to the franchise. Releasing GK2 on the DS and some other game, like GS5, on the 3DS would just guarantee that GK2 is a flop. Also keep in mind that Takumi was as much in the dark on the 3DS as everyone else was at E3. And also at E3 we got the rumors of the Capcom colab project. So if it's on the 3DS and Takumi and his department are unrelated. It's that or the project has nothing to do with the 3DS. My money is on the latter. Call me 2-3 months after Kenji 2 is out in Japan and then I'll change my song. |
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| Author: | Akiak [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:17 pm ] |
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Why is the text on the notebook not there now?? Another silenced slip-up...? Anyway, this looks very very interesting. It could be set in the 600's with the Salem witch trials, that would be a unique path for the series. Or it could be a reference to the spirit mediums, but since when could we call them witches? You know, I seriously hope this has nothing to do with Bayonetta. What now, she's becoming an attorney? That'd be so lame... It sounds like a geeky fangame by someone who likes both series. This is definitely part of the AA series, characters included. GS5, perhaps? |
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| Author: | End Quote [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:23 pm ] |
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And I still can't see how 3DS is going to improve GS/GK in any way.. |
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| Author: | Gyakuten$aiban [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:27 pm ] |
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Bayonetta belongs to Platinum Games anyway. Unless I missed Platinum and Capcom being in talks to do something, that ain't it. |
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| Author: | Wooster [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:40 pm ] |
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 I think there's a little more weight to the Salem Witch Trials. The spine of the book is on the left. In Japan the spine is on the right. This implies a western scenario. The ink well, quill, and candle are all appropriate accessories for the era. Although, not unique to the 1600's. Still, I can't imagine what scenario they could have in mind about the Salem Trials. |
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| Author: | kamapon [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:59 pm ] |
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Gyakuten$aiban wrote: Bayonetta belongs to Platinum Games anyway. Unless I missed Platinum and Capcom being in talks to do something, that ain't it. Actually in Platinum website, in the blog, it's said that they had to ask for rights to use the logo and Capcom let them do it (look at the photo that's not a fantshirt, that's actually a price Platinum gave to winners of a contest. |
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| Author: | grim_tales [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:33 pm ] |
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Maybe it's a special case where Nick/Apollo travel back in time or find information hundreds of years old that is about the witch trials - this connects to a present day case about Trucy or the Feys? |
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| Author: | End Quote [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:42 pm ] |
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Wooster wrote: I think there's a little more weight to the Salem Witch Trials. The spine of the book is on the left. In Japan the spine is on the right. This implies a western scenario. The ink well, quill, and candle are all appropriate accessories for the era. Although, not unique to the 1600's. Still, I can't imagine what scenario they could have in mind about the Salem Trials. Maybe they'll find a way to tie it into the Fey clan? |
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