I love the idea of this crossover so much. I mean, VOICE ACTING for Maya and Nick? I just hope they pick good ones. XD The only problem is, I haven't gotten around to playing any Proffesser Layton yet (Been highly interested in the series, but never bothered to actually pick it up, money being tight and all), I guess now I better hop to it and play at least one of them.
I hope they don't go all ''4Kids'' on the dub (if they localize) this game.
Oh dear mother of god, that would suck. I really hope Capcom doesn't do that to us. Thankfully, I think they're better than that.
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Neni [ Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:10 am ]
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Chess wrote:
GantStare wrote:
FEMM the Attorney wrote:
I love the idea of this crossover so much. I mean, VOICE ACTING for Maya and Nick? I just hope they pick good ones. XD The only problem is, I haven't gotten around to playing any Proffesser Layton yet (Been highly interested in the series, but never bothered to actually pick it up, money being tight and all), I guess now I better hop to it and play at least one of them.
I hope they don't go all ''4Kids'' on the dub (if they localize) this game.
Oh dear mother of god, that would suck. I really hope Capcom doesn't do that to us. Thankfully, I think they're better than that.
This is, god thankfully, very unlikely, given that 4Kids has pretty much managed to kill itself by now with a long row of bad decisions. A lot of people are even convinced that they won't exist for much longer than a few more years at most.
On a seperate note, I watched Eternal Diva with my siblings today and am now fully and utterly persuaded that positively NOTHING can go wrong with this crossover... In fact, the film made me WISH the crossover was a movie as well, rather than a game. That would mean more of this animated awesomeness.
I mean, seriously, that must have been, like 10000 frames per second! And the CGI was INCREDIBLY well done! Plus, there was that awesome portrayal of
Spoiler:
Melina "possessing" Janice... What does that remind us on? Now I am even more praying for a Mia appearance!
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DeMatador [ Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:29 am ]
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grim_tales wrote:
Do I need to play Unwound Future before the crossover?
According to everything we've seen, Layton and Luke are wearing their prequel outfits, meaning that, if you were to place PLvsAA anywhere in the PL timeline, it would be before Curious Village, most probably after Specter's Flute and Eternal Diva. But don't worry, by the time this hits the West, Specter's Flute will have done so too.
Also, how long is it taking them to do a gameplay trailer? Or at least a couple of screenshots...
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Bolt Storm [ Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:15 am ]
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I think it's a touch early to be expecting gameplay shots. While it's clear the game's been in development going by the fairly decent amount of concept art/scenario work/that trailer, it's not necessarily been in production for long; Capcom's other big 3DS game, Mega Man Legends 3, was announced barely a month or so into production. Besides, I doubt they want to steal GK2's spotlight.
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DeMatador [ Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:33 am ]
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Well, MML3 is different, since it technically still hasn't even started production (it's supposed to be developed "with" the fans). But I have to agree on the GK2 point.
Talking about GK2, how are they going to sell that one with people hyping up for the crossover? I was really surprised when the whole "Majo Saiban" business turned out to be a game, just because I thought they wouldn't announce a new one so soon after GK2. Such an expected game can absolutely nuke the entire sales of both GK2 and Mask of Miracles (mostly GK2), unless it's announced for late 2011. Which is very likely, since GK2 and PL5 will most probably hit Japan by spring of next year, soon after the 3DS' launch. So, if Capcom and Level-5 are smart, yes, they should keep the PLvsAA front silent until GK2 and PL5 have both hit the Japanese markets. Of course, all this without mentioning a westside release, which will most probably be winter 2011 for AAI2, August/September 2012 for PL5, and winter 2012 for PLvsAA.
It's incredible how far away we are from all this awesome.
Why does everyone ignore any posts I make in the news section?
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Jean Descole [ Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:16 am ]
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Narutorox123456 wrote:
Why does everyone ignore any posts I make in the news section?
Because you SMELL like FEET and GARBANZO-SCENTED FARTS and to be perfectly honest, I don't typically browse the forum by sections. I just click on 'new posts' and skim, so I probably miss a topic or two along the way. If I ignored your posts, that is likely the reason why.
And I don't think you have enough posts to justify that question, but that's just me.
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Lusankya [ Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:09 am ]
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DeMatador wrote:
grim_tales wrote:
Do I need to play Unwound Future before the crossover?
According to everything we've seen, Layton and Luke are wearing their prequel outfits, meaning that, if you were to place PLvsAA anywhere in the PL timeline, it would be before Curious Village, most probably after Specter's Flute and Eternal Diva. But don't worry, by the time this hits the West, Specter's Flute will have done so too.
Also, how long is it taking them to do a gameplay trailer? Or at least a couple of screenshots...
I don't know what's so important about the ingame timeline, just play the games in the order they were released in.
It's a crossover so it's not really important when it plays anyway. They need to assume that this game will be played by people which have only played only PL/only AA so they can't make references to old titles every 5 minutes.
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Wooster [ Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:39 am ]
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Narutorox123456 wrote:
Why does everyone ignore any posts I make in the news section?
I guess because what you posted wasn't significant? *shrug*
Your post about Takumi and the tweet was either wrong or unverified. And I'm leaning on the wrong side, because the only comments I'm aware of were involving Jiro.
As for your viewing troubles on the vs website. I don't have those problems, and don't actively use those browsers outside of development (And even then only FireFox, as Safari and Chrome use a slight variant on the same rendering engine).
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Justice1 [ Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:06 pm ]
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The first picture just tells me... "Nick, try to ride a horse properly." *facepalm*
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MapleRose [ Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:15 pm ]
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DeMatador wrote:
Talking about GK2, how are they going to sell that one with people hyping up for the crossover? I was really surprised when the whole "Majo Saiban" business turned out to be a game, just because I thought they wouldn't announce a new one so soon after GK2.
Yeah I'm totally surprised by how close these two announcements are. It seems that we've mostly forgotten about GK2, and people want to see more stuff about this game than GK2, haha.
But it's like they're not even making that big of an effort to sell GK2 even. Being a sequel, it's mostly tailored to old fans who have played GK anyway, and those who have played GK will most likely play this one already.
It's more like "look guys, GK2, we added new stuff" and we're like "cool, yay more GK". Whereas the crossover is like "guess what, epic crossover" and we're like "OMGWTFBBQ<33"
I don't think the 4th Layton game would be overshadowed as much as GK2, because it is for the 3DS, and therefore, still have novelty value. Wait, GK2 isn't for the 3DS is it?
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Wooster [ Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:05 pm ]
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GK2 is for the old DS.
But that does bring up a good point. Why announce GK2 first? I've practically forgotten about it myself. I think the hype machine might've been ridden better if GK2 was announced after. Then again, GK2 is for older hardware so it might have lost the wow effect.
Then again, we haven't seen any screenshots of the vs game like we have of the GK2 game. There would be nothing to compare to.
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DeMatador [ Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:38 pm ]
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MapleRose wrote:
I don't think the 4th Layton game would be overshadowed as much as GK2, because it is for the 3DS, and therefore, still have novelty value. Wait, GK2 isn't for the 3DS is it?
Both PL4 and GK2 are for the regular DS. PL5 is for 3DS. PL4 was released in Japan 11 months ago, we're only expecting a western release. And seeing how western releases of Layton games are occurring yearly, every Fall, I'm calling a September 2011 release. Now, GK2 has just been announced for Japan, so we're still expecting a release window. But it'll most probably hit Japan by Spring next year, same as PL5.
But I really do think Capcom and Level-5 will be able to deal with all this. I don't think they're even considering the western market right now, so they can focus on the Japanese one. So, they release both GK2 and PL5 in the same period of time, during Spring 2011, and then the crossover, around 6 months later, by Winter 2011. And the west can just suck it, for them. But I'm more than sure that we'll get both PLs, GK2 and the crossover between Fall 2011 and Winter 2012.
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grim_tales [ Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:57 pm ]
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I havent played GK1 yet but yeah, I've kinda forgotten about GK2 as well (though I still want to play it).
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MapleRose [ Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:11 pm ]
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oops, did I type Layton4? I meant Layton5 XD
How long do they usually take between announcing a game and releasing it? But you think we can get the crossover game outside of Japan by Winter 2012? That seems so far away... but it does give some time for the 3DS to hopefully get cheaper >__<
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Kinvara [ Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:44 pm ]
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*Superhyped for this game*
I just hope they don't skimp on the number of puzzles they put in the game or dumb down the trial sequences. I want this to be a lengthy adventure...
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dullahan1 [ Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:06 pm ]
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Hey Mr. Wright, try to slide your evidence through this sliding block puzzle and get it to the other side in under a minute or your client will be found guilty. Oh, did we mention that you have to do it in under 10 moves?
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DeMatador [ Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:01 am ]
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MapleRose wrote:
How long do they usually take between announcing a game and releasing it?
Well, it really does depend a lot on how much into development the game is by the time it's announced. When GK2 was announced, we only had some screenshots and a couple of details on new characters and story, so we can say it's, at most, halfway through development, 65% tops. So you can expect it by mid-2011, around May or June. The tricky part here is that you can't even count GK1 as an example here: that one had to be built from scratch, and in GK2's case, they have the first game's entire engine to work on. GK1 was first revealed, after something called "NEW Gyakuten NOT Saiban" was teased, on April 20, 2008 (can't forget that day!), via Famitsu. Some of the media that was shown was in prototype phase, and didn't even make it into the final game (like a then-updated interface, and Edgey and Gummy investigating some place near Phoenix's office, anybody remember?). So, it was finally released on May 28, 2009, 13 months after the big reveal. But, as I said, GK2 is being built on GK1's engine and visuals, so it's bound to take less time than it's predecessor. That's why I'm expecting a mid-2011 release.
And PL5, well, that one was pretty much announced as a semi-launch title for the 3DS in Japan, so I'm guessing it'll take two or three months after the system's come out for the game to do so, so I'm guessing April/May 2011.
Now, PLvsGS is an entirely different topic. In this case, it's not only going to take a while to develop, it will have to be delayed so it doesn't steal neither GK2 nor PL5's sales. Luckily, both of those are coming out close to each other in Japan. So they can wait 5 or 6 months, and release the crossover by this time next year.
MapleRose wrote:
But you think we can get the crossover game outside of Japan by Winter 2012? That seems so far away... but it does give some time for the 3DS to hopefully get cheaper >__<
Here's where localizations matter. On the Ace Attorney front, basing on the time it took GK1 to get localized into AAI, I'm expecting an early-2012 release for AAI2. On the Professor Layton front, as I've mentioned, it's a bit easier to guess. Both Diabolical Box and Unwound Future (a.k.a. games that Nintendo was certain about, unlike Curious Village) followed a pattern:
Spoiler: The Layton Cycle
1) Semi-official mention. (DB) During GDC 2009, a Nintendo representative mentioned that "Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box" was being localized. This was the first time the game wasn't referred to as "Pandora's Box" or "Devil's Box". (UF) Some months before E3, Nintendo filed a trademark for "Professor Layton and the Unwound Future". This was the first time the game wasn't referred to as "The Last Time-Travel" or "The Final Time Journey".
2) E3 "announcement". (DB) The game wasn't announced during Nintendo's E3 2009 keynote, but after that, the Nintendo booth offered a demo for the previously-unannounced title. Later that day, the Nintendo Channel offered an English trailer. A date, August 24 of 2009 (during Fall 2009, that is), was given. (UF) After Nintendo's E3 2010 keynote, they opened up [url=e3.nintendo.com]a site just for its E3 announcements[/url], where one of the DS highlights was Unwound Future. Its mini-site had (and currently has) a trailer and a release date, September 20, 2010 (later changed to September 12, still during Fall 2010).
3) Silence between announcement and release.
4) Release (again, during Fall of its announcement year).
5) The game sells excellently (is in fact the top DS seller for two or three weeks) and gets great reviews.
6) Complete silence until semi-official mention of sequel.
So, since this strategy has worked for both PL2 and 3, I don't see why they would repeat it with 4 and 5. PL4 is still for the original DS, so they don't have to wait for any system to start selling well (as if they had to wait for the 3DS to sell well), meaning they can go on with the Cycle alright. And by Fall 2012, when PL5 would come out if following the Cycle, the 3DS will have been in the market for a year and a half. So no worries there, either.
So if you count, they have two periods of time to release the localized crossover, while making sure it doesn't hurt sales of neither of the two series' games: after PL4/AAI2 and before PL5 (Winter 2011 to Fall 2012), or after PL5 (Fall 2012 to whenever). Considering PLvsGS will most likely hit Japan by this time next year, it would be quite hard for localization to finish before the first time period, so it would only make sense to release it, at least, two months after PL5. Which would mean... yeah, this time in two years.
And as for the 3DS being cheaper, yeah, I guess we can expect a prettier, cheaper 3DS Lite by 2012.
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Narutorox123456 [ Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:48 am ]
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Wooster wrote:
Narutorox123456 wrote:
Why does everyone ignore any posts I make in the news section?
I guess because what you posted wasn't significant? *shrug*
Your post about Takumi and the tweet was either wrong or unverified. And I'm leaning on the wrong side, because the only comments I'm aware of were involving Jiro.
As for your viewing troubles on the vs website. I don't have those problems, and don't actively use those browsers outside of development (And even then only FireFox, as Safari and Chrome use a slight variant on the same rendering engine).
What I posted was a question, and saying to correct me if I was wrong. Meaning reply to it saying if it was wrong. I didn't say it was completely correct.
Really? You don't have any problems? Odd.
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PouchedRat [ Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:54 am ]
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This news made me Fangasm pretty hard. It was messy, and shoved me right back into the pw fandom. I MISS this place!!
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LE_MALEM [ Sat Oct 30, 2010 12:52 pm ]
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Guys, anyone would be a foolish fool to not try this epiclly non foolish game because I'll be a damn fool if I don't buy it even if I don't know foolish Japanese language.
By the way, if this game DOESN'T come to America and Europe, could someone who UNDERSTANDS freaking Japanese post a translation of the game here (WITHOUT spoiling the answers) ??? Thanks a lot.
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Daramue [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:38 am ]
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LE_MALEM wrote:
By the way, if this game DOESN'T come to America and Europe,
I am fairly positive you shouldn't even consider this as a worry for NA. Every Layton/Phoenix Wright game that has been released in the states has sold well (Well enough to turn profit, anyway) and has a larger, perpetuating fanbase; as an Ace Attorney fan, the last game I actually worried about making it over the sea was Justice for All(Back when Ace Attorney's presence in the states was uncertain)! In other words, unless you hear otherwise, it's coming out assuredly.
Now, for EU on the other hand, well...I don't know. I don't live there and I'm not sure of the situation. Sorry.
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Primal [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:57 am ]
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Those animated scenes look so epic. @ x@ This looks like its shaping up to be insanely good. I wonder what the gameplay is like?
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Lusankya [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:25 am ]
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Daramue wrote:
LE_MALEM wrote:
By the way, if this game DOESN'T come to America and Europe,
I am fairly positive you shouldn't even consider this as a worry for NA. Every Layton/Phoenix Wright game that has been released in the states has sold well (Well enough to turn profit, anyway) and has a larger, perpetuating fanbase; as an Ace Attorney fan, the last game I actually worried about making it over the sea was Justice for All(Back when Ace Attorney's presence in the states was uncertain)! In other words, unless you hear otherwise, it's coming out assuredly.
Now, for EU on the other hand, well...I don't know. I don't live there and I'm not sure of the situation. Sorry.
I don't have many numbers, but Professor Layton is surely a bestseller here (E.g. it is currently the NDS topseller on Amazon.de). Also Nintendo seems to love it as the whole Nintendo Europe web site is currently in a professor Layton style.
Ace Attorney unfortunately is quite more the niche game. Apollo Justice didn't sell to well so they decided only to publish an English version of Ace Attorney Investigations. I read on some Amazon.de comments that because of this they didn't want to buy the game anymore. So this was like a selffulfilling prophecy and the future of the series in Europe remains unknown.
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Neni [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:43 am ]
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Lusankya wrote:
I don't have many numbers, but Professor Layton is surely a bestseller here (E.g. it is currently the NDS topseller on Amazon.de). Also Nintendo seems to love it as the whole Nintendo Europe web site is currently in a professor Layton style.
Ace Attorney unfortunately is quite more the niche game. Apollo Justice didn't sell to well so they decided only to publish an English version of Ace Attorney Investigations. I read on some Amazon.de comments that because of this they didn't want to buy the game anymore. So this was like a selffulfilling prophecy and the future of the series in Europe remains unknown.
And if I have to import a goddamn american 3DS, I WILL play this game! NOTHING can stop me! ><
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Lusankya [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:08 am ]
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Neni wrote:
And if I have to import a goddamn american 3DS, I WILL play this game! NOTHING can stop me! ><
Let's hope it isn't region locked. But sadly "Due to regional differences in Internet services and parental controls, DSi-specific software is region locked." The 3DS will probably be region locked for downloadable stuff etc. but hopefully not for cartridges.
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AnimeFan-Girl [ Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:07 pm ]
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Wow, this makes me even more determined to buy the 3DS!!!
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Gerkuman [ Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:15 am ]
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Layton is a massive seller here in Britain as... well, he's British! He's the Sherlock Holmes of the 21st Century, for many people. Europe loves Layton too.
We might unfortunately not get a Benelux release, which is what happened with the AAI release (I think). But then again, Layton sells great there too, so who knows. I think people should just participate when they ask us to, and we'll have nothing to worry about.
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Coffee Prosecutor [ Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:00 pm ]
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It is like Tatsunoko vs Capcom, no one knew the Tatsunoko side, but everyone bought it for the sake of the Capcom characters...
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Nurio [ Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:58 pm ]
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Gerkuman wrote:
We might unfortunately not get a Benelux release, which is what happened with the AAI release (I think).
Yeah, I still haven't found AAI here in The Netherlands. It really makes me sad that I can't buy this game.
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Lusankya [ Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:06 pm ]
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Nurio wrote:
Gerkuman wrote:
We might unfortunately not get a Benelux release, which is what happened with the AAI release (I think).
Yeah, I still haven't found AAI here in The Netherlands. It really makes me sad that I can't buy this game.
Just buy it from Amazon.co.uk
Coffee Prosecutor wrote:
It is like Tatsunoko vs Capcom, no one knew the Tatsunoko side, but everyone bought it for the sake of the Capcom characters...
Except that this time most people will buy this because of Layton.
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Nurio [ Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:10 pm ]
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Lusankya wrote:
Nurio wrote:
Gerkuman wrote:
We might unfortunately not get a Benelux release, which is what happened with the AAI release (I think).
Yeah, I still haven't found AAI here in The Netherlands. It really makes me sad that I can't buy this game.
Just buy it from Amazon.co.uk
And pay twice as much for it? Sorry, but no.
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Ash [ Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:31 am ]
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Ace Attorney Investigations can be easily procured at webshops within the Netherlands. I'm sure I've seen it at for example NedGame and Dimension Plus. I think Bol used to have it in stock too...
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Coffee Prosecutor [ Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:05 am ]
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Lusankya wrote:
Nurio wrote:
Coffee Prosecutor wrote:
It is like Tatsunoko vs Capcom, no one knew the Tatsunoko side, but everyone bought it for the sake of the Capcom characters...
Except that this time most people will buy this because of Layton.
That is what I meant to say, yes.
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Nurio [ Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:20 pm ]
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Ash wrote:
Ace Attorney Investigations can be easily procured at webshops within the Netherlands. I'm sure I've seen it at for example NedGame and Dimension Plus. I think Bol used to have it in stock too...
To be honest, apart from Bol.com, I haven't heard of any other reliable Dutch webshops. And I've never seen it at Bol.com. I will check NedGame or Dimension Plus out.
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GantStare [ Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:07 pm ]
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I actually had to buy AAI from Amazon.com because my local Best Buy was sold out.
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Ash [ Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:14 am ]
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Nurio wrote:
To be honest, apart from Bol.com, I haven't heard of any other reliable Dutch webshops. And I've never seen it at Bol.com. I will check NedGame or Dimension Plus out.
NedGame and Dimension Plus are probably the most reliable Dutch game webshops around, as they have been around for ages as both brick and mortar shops and webshops. I think there are some cheaper Dutch webshops for games around (always check Budget Gaming.nl!), but few have the same solid reputation as those two.
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Tomoshibi Amatsu [ Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:55 pm ]
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I'm wondering where on the scale Layton will measure up in regards to his prosecutor status. Could he possibly be Phoenix's most powerful opponent yet?
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Wooster [ Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:05 pm ]
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Tomoshibi Amatsu wrote:
I'm wondering where on the scale Layton will measure up in regards to his prosecutor status. Could he possibly be Phoenix's most powerful opponent yet?
Dude, Layton is yet another compulsive tea drinking prosecutor. It's like spinach is for sailors.
Oh dear mother of god, that would suck. I really hope Capcom doesn't do that to us. Thankfully, I think they're better than that.
