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| Author: | JapaneseGIRL [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Gyakuten Kenji 2 - Feb.3 2011! Collectors package & Limited |
http://www.capcom.co.jp/gyakutenkenji/2/goods.html Gyakuten Kenji 2 Collectors package ![]() -Sound CD "GK2 Orchestra arrangement" -DVD 6,090yen https://www.e-capcom.com/ec/srDispProdu ... ctDetail/1 Gyakuten Kenji 2 Limited Edition ![]() Gyakuten Kenji 2 Collectors package + Edgeworth Figure 8,000yen https://www.e-capcom.com/ec/srDispProdu ... ctDetail/1 |
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| Author: | Jean Descole [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:16 am ] |
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JapaneseGIRL wrote: http://www.capcom.co.jp/gyakutenkenji/2/goods.html Hell yeaaaaahhhh Wait... So... February of next year for Japan? Or is that date just for that collector package there? Edit: Oops, nevermind. Didn't see the CD/DVD combo. |
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| Author: | Wooster [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:18 am ] |
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Is that Lang's cousin with a fedora? Awesome. |
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| Author: | Asa Turney [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:19 am ] |
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!!! Th-thank you so much for always staying on top of awesome updates... February 3rd! That actually feels quite close! When they said "spring," I was expecting late April or something. =D Okay, I am officially intrigued by the new guy on the box art. DVD with the special court session!? So there was one after all! I can't wait to see it!And... 1/10 Edgeworth figurine. Want. WANT. WAAANT. ![]() Dangit -- lucky Japan. I hope there's at least some awesome preorder merchandise for people in America when the time comes! |
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| Author: | Pleading Eyes [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:26 am ] |
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Did they... curve Miles' nose in that picture? D= But Miles isn't supposed to be a pretty boy like the Gavin brothers. He has squinty eyes and a wide nose. And Miles has always had a rounder face than, say, Phoenix. What's with the PERFECTLY CHISELED JAW now? Why are they making him a pretty boy? It takes away so much of what made his design interesting. I am going to go sulk now. V_V |
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| Author: | Blademaster_Orca [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:36 am ] |
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I hope they release the collector's edition here in the US, though knowing Capcom that's fairly unlikely. The figurine looks awesome, though. The new guy on the boxart looks interesting, but I wonder if he will outright replace Lang or if it'll be like some kind of partnership. It actually kind-of bugs me that his outfit is the most "normal" on the cover, too. As if it clashes with the outlandish outfits everyone else has on, or something like that. |
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| Author: | Pleading Eyes [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:48 am ] |
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Pleading Eyes wrote: Did they... curve Miles' nose in that picture? D= But Miles isn't supposed to be a pretty boy like the Gavin brothers. He has squinty eyes and a wide nose. And Miles has always had a rounder face than, say, Phoenix. What's with the PERFECTLY CHISELED JAW now? Why are they making him a pretty boy? It takes away so much of what made his design interesting. I am going to go sulk now. V_V Actually, looks like they did it even worse to Lotta with her new design. No more red-fro or far-apart eyes. Now she's just a generic looking gadgety anime chick. Great. *sigh* I might be the only one who feels this way, I guess. But I hate to see more diverse and interesting designs be edited for more commonplace "pretty" designs. Back to sulking. |
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| Author: | JapaneseGIRL [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:55 am ] |
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And GK2 Demo will come in December! |
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| Author: | Wooster [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:01 am ] |
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JapaneseGIRL wrote: And GK2 Demo will come in December! I just wanted to say, thanks again for always keeping us up to date with all the news from Japan, JapaneseGirl. |
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| Author: | Asa Turney [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:08 am ] |
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Pleading Eyes wrote: Pleading Eyes wrote: Did they... curve Miles' nose in that picture? D= But Miles isn't supposed to be a pretty boy like the Gavin brothers. He has squinty eyes and a wide nose. And Miles has always had a rounder face than, say, Phoenix. What's with the PERFECTLY CHISELED JAW now? Why are they making him a pretty boy? It takes away so much of what made his design interesting. I am going to go sulk now. V_V Actually, looks like they did it even worse to Lotta with her new design. No more red-fro or far-apart eyes. Now she's just a generic looking gadgety anime chick. Great. *sigh* I might be the only one who feels this way, I guess. But I hate to see more diverse and interesting designs be edited for more commonplace "pretty" designs. Back to sulking. ...I...I didn't even notice... *goes to scrutinize older official art of Edgeworth in order to understand and to be able to keep calling myself an Edgey fan* I guess it's true that his design is evolving. I'm not good at recognizing the subtle details that change, but I know that I never thought of Edgeworth as a bishie, and I am kind of getting bishie vibes from the GK2 art. I can't say I personally dislike the "new" design, but I can understand your concern. It's crazy if they think they have to change anything in order to better sell Edgeworth as the main character, because there was never anything wrong or unmarketable about the awesomeness that is/was Edgeworth. But, about the "new Lotta" -- well, I think the design to which you're referring is actually a new character with a new name [Mikiko Hayami], and we don't know yet if she's in there to replace Lotta, right? Lotta might still be in the game, too. In fact, I'd bet on it. And I have a feeling that they wouldn't change a thing about her quirkiness. While there may be (totally unnecessary) marketing motives for tweaking Edgeworth, Lotta doesn't need to be sold as anything but the quirky supporting cast character she is. Spoiler: AAI cameo Wooster wrote: JapaneseGIRL wrote: And GK2 Demo will come in December! I just wanted to say, thanks again for always keeping us up to date with all the news from Japan, JapaneseGirl. ... ~! A huge "YAY!" to the news, and a loud echo of the thanks.
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| Author: | Pleading Eyes [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gyakuten Kenji 2 - Feb.3 2011! Collectors package & Limited |
Asa Turney wrote: ...I...I didn't even notice... *goes to scrutinize older official art of Edgeworth in order to understand and to be able to keep calling myself an Edgey fan* I guess it's true that his design is evolving. I'm not good at recognizing the subtle details that change, but I know that I never thought of Edgeworth as a bishie, and I am kind of getting bishie vibes from the GK2 art. I can't say I personally dislike the "new" design, but I can understand your concern. It's crazy if they think they have to change anything in order to better sell Edgeworth as the main character, because there was never anything wrong or unmarketable about the awesomeness that is/was Edgeworth. Granted the whole cast has gotten updated through the years as the art style has changed. But even so, Edgeworth has always retained his squinty eyes and wider nose, and is the roundest faced of the boys' trio (with Phoenix having the strongest jawline and Larry being the pointiest in design). It simply irritates me that he has to be made "prettier" now that he's the protagonist. On the contrary, I think he looks more interesting the way he was. If anything, I think there was really something intriguing about the fact that everyone seemed to think Edgeworth was so "hot" while he had the less masculine and heroic features compared to Phoenix, and less fine features compared to Klavier. Why must the desirable characters all have the same exact fine features? I'm glad that's not Lotta's new design, at least. But if it's just her replacement, then it's just annoying in a different way. =/ Wooster wrote: JapaneseGIRL wrote: And GK2 Demo will come in December! I just wanted to say, thanks again for always keeping us up to date with all the news from Japan, JapaneseGirl. Yeah, it's great to have someone to bring the latest, up-to-the-minute news for us, and so faithfully too! Even if I don't like the latest news, it's still nice to be in the know. XD Thanks so much for being so diligent, JapaneseGIRL! |
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| Author: | Perseverance [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:22 am ] |
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...You know, it's weird. While I am definitely looking forward to playing GK2, I have this strange feeling that upon finishing it I'm going to be that "old geezer" Ace Attorney fan who sits in the corner of Court Records and tells the young'uns long-lost tales of the good old days, back when we walked uphill to school both ways in the snow and before we had our fancy gimmick 3DS contraptions and before Kay Faraday existed in lore, back when Ace Attorney was just a trilogy starring a young attorney and his group of lovable friends . You know, before the series went down into the gutter and was corrupted by the "new generation" and all its gizmos and whatzits replacing a solid, edge-of-your-seat narrative. ...Yup, I better dye my hair white and draw some wrinkles into my forehead to prepare!
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| Author: | Pleading Eyes [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:30 am ] |
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Perseverance wrote: ...Yup, I better dye my hair white and draw some wrinkles into my forehead to prepare! ![]() Don't do that! People get prettier with age, not more worn looking, apparently! Just ask Miles!
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| Author: | saide [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:42 am ] |
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there's something wrong with the links. Chrome is warning me that it's a phising site. T^T |
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| Author: | Perseverance [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:43 am ] |
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Pleading Eyes wrote: Don't do that! People get prettier with age, not more worn looking, apparently! Just ask Miles! ...I'm just sick and tired of Capcom's approach of "let's introduce a new game with all these brand new supporting characters you couldn't care less about!" ...When meanwhile I'm like "All I want to do is spend some quality time with , , , , , , , , , , , , , , and . Can't we just stop the stupid investigations and go out for a nice day at the beach with our good friends?"But for some reason the vast majority of the supporting characters who come back are the really annoying ones, and Phoenix never gets to hang out with all his buddies, Edgeworth never bothers to call him or anything, and instead we're distracted with even more Oldbag or maybe Meekins or Lotta or fifty new characters who really aren't anything special and just drive me up the wwwwaaaaallll. |
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| Author: | Jean Descole [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:46 am ] |
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Pleading Eyes wrote: Asa Turney wrote: ...I...I didn't even notice... *goes to scrutinize older official art of Edgeworth in order to understand and to be able to keep calling myself an Edgey fan* I guess it's true that his design is evolving. I'm not good at recognizing the subtle details that change, but I know that I never thought of Edgeworth as a bishie, and I am kind of getting bishie vibes from the GK2 art. I can't say I personally dislike the "new" design, but I can understand your concern. It's crazy if they think they have to change anything in order to better sell Edgeworth as the main character, because there was never anything wrong or unmarketable about the awesomeness that is/was Edgeworth. Granted the whole cast has gotten updated through the years as the art style has changed. But even so, Edgeworth has always retained his squinty eyes and wider nose, and is the roundest faced of the boys' trio (with Phoenix having the strongest jawline and Larry being the pointiest in design). It simply irritates me that he has to be made "prettier" now that he's the protagonist. On the contrary, I think he looks more interesting the way he was. If anything, I think there was really something intriguing about the fact that everyone seemed to think Edgeworth was so "hot" while he had the less masculine and heroic features compared to Phoenix, and less fine features compared to Klavier. Why must the desirable characters all have the same exact fine features? It's funny, but when I first saw Edgeworth in PW1, I thought he was too pretty. I mean, not girly pretty but I'd considered him to be just another soft-featured guy that all the girls were going to fawn over because he was so soft-featured. and I was mostly Anyway, I'd always considered his GK designs to be cleaned up versions of his PW designs. Then again, the nose does seem slightly more pointy on the CD art, but I don't think it's pointing upward. But I can see the fact that he's tilting his head back slightly might give that impression. That doll/figure is a different story, but I'll forgive it for now. |
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| Author: | dirtypantsdan [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:51 am ] |
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It looks like we might not get see the TGS promo until the game comes out in Japan, unless it's posted earlier on Capcom's site or something. The guy in the fedora looks interesting, I wonder who he is. Well anyway, thanks for the update JapaneseGIRL! |
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| Author: | Mr. Bear Jew [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:08 am ] |
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Wicked! Hopefully this will give Nintendo enough time to license the game for a U.S. release and give the localization team enough time to translate it by late 2011. I hope. |
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| Author: | shadowofedgeworth [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:39 am ] |
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Adrian in black wrote: It's funny, but when I first saw Edgeworth in PW1, I thought he was too pretty. I mean, not girly pretty but I'd considered him to be just another soft-featured guy that all the girls were going to fawn over because he was so soft-featured. I have to agree, I never really considered Edgeworth as not being a pretty boy. Don't get me wrong, I love his design, I'm just saying I never would've looked at the art on the GK2 box and thought, "Gad, what a terrible (different) depiction of Edgeworth!" I did think the promo art (in general, not just for Edgeworth) for the WiiWare versions of GS1-GS3 seemed kinda shoddy compared to past official art, but that's an entirely different issue... Perseverance wrote: ...You know, it's weird. While I am definitely looking forward to playing GK2, I have this strange feeling that upon finishing it I'm going to be that "old geezer" Ace Attorney fan who sits in the corner of Court Records and tells the young'uns long-lost tales of the good old days, back when we walked uphill to school both ways in the snow and before we had our fancy gimmick 3DS contraptions and before Kay Faraday existed in lore, back when Ace Attorney was just a trilogy starring a young attorney and his group of lovable friends . You know, before the series went down into the gutter and was corrupted by the "new generation" and all its gizmos and whatzits replacing a solid, edge-of-your-seat narrative. ...Yup, I better dye my hair white and draw some wrinkles into my forehead to prepare! ![]() Trust me, I'll probably be right there with you. I can always hope that GK2 will actually have a good story this time, but if the original is any indication... |
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| Author: | JapaneseGIRL [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:43 am ] |
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Wooster wrote: JapaneseGIRL wrote: And GK2 Demo will come in December! I just wanted to say, thanks again for always keeping us up to date with all the news from Japan, JapaneseGirl. My pleasure. I preordered my Limited Edition ^^ |
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| Author: | Gunloc [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:24 am ] |
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A large version of the box art: ![]() I wonder who fedora man is? Miles and the judge lady look great, I love their artwork. |
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| Author: | Ash [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:44 am ] |
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This is certainly the first time I'm not that eager to buy the limited edition. I have them all till now, but I'm not really interested in a figure... I think the collector in me will win this battle though. Have to find a way to order it though. ああー、福岡に戻りたいな。 |
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| Author: | Kaiyumi [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:55 am ] |
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Hmm, is the limited edition with the figure only up for order if you live in Japan? ;; I suspect the answer is yes, though I'm curious if there are any other sites taking preorders at the moment or something. I'd love to get it for my friend's birthday, but...well, yeah. 8D;; |
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| Author: | Ash [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:02 am ] |
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While you might use third parties to order it for you, E-Capcom won't send overseas (and the Edgeworth figure is an E-Capcom exclusive). Ack, just remembered I actually had unused points left on E-Capcom from a order last year! But I can't use it here ;_; |
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| Author: | Toby Danger [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:18 am ] |
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I notice Fedora Guy has a notepad in his shirt pocket. Perhaps he's a journalist? Either way, he looks badass. |
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| Author: | Lusankya [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:05 am ] |
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Perseverance wrote: ...I'm just sick and tired of Capcom's approach of "let's introduce a new game with all these brand new supporting characters you couldn't care less about!" Wait a minute you're sick of Capcom's "approach" of introducing new characters? So you don't want to see any new characters in any new game? Do you were really furious when you played PW1-5 and saw that there was this newly introduced Ema Skye? Like "Oh my god who the f*** is this stupid girl? Where is Maya? Ahhh I HATE new characters!" You get my drift. Every character is newly introduced at some point during the story. Perseverance wrote: ...When meanwhile I'm like "All I want to do is spend some quality time with , , , , , , , , , , , , , , and . Can't we just stop the stupid investigations and go out for a nice day at the beach with our good friends?"But for some reason the vast majority of the supporting characters who come back are the really annoying ones, and Phoenix never gets to hang out with all his buddies, Edgeworth never bothers to call him or anything, and instead we're distracted with even more Oldbag or maybe Meekins or Lotta or fifty new characters who really aren't anything special and just drive me up the wwwwaaaaallll. The vast majority was annoying? I give you that Oldbag times two wasn't really necessary, but the vast majority for you are two characters? I don't count Lotta who only appeared as a background sprite. Two characters, when there were also Larry, Maggy, Ema and Franziska? Don't you think you have some kind of selective perception? Pleading Eyes wrote: I'm glad that's not Lotta's new design, at least. But if it's just her replacement, then it's just annoying in a different way. =/ A replacement for Lotta? How would this work? You mean that girl could be the new "witness who appears in more than one case but otherwise doesn't serve any specific purpose"?
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| Author: | Pleading Eyes [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:09 am ] |
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Lusankya wrote: A replacement for Lotta? How would this work? I don't see that Lotta is fitting any specific role. You mean that girl could be the new "witness who appears in more than one case"? ![]() I mean fulfilling Lotta's role as the series' main source for pictures. We already have Lotta and Brushel as journalists, and neither one of them is exactly attractive. So are they replacing them with a prettier, more gimmicky journalist character instead? As for what Preserverance was saying, I can understand the frustration with all these new characters that feel like nothing more than gimmicks, when we have a wonderful cast waiting in limbo. Of course new characters are necessary, but AAI's supporting cast felt pretty surface compared to what we've gotten in the past. Meanwhile, everyone from AJ is left hanging, as well as several from the original trilogy. |
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| Author: | Mr. Bear Jew [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:26 am ] |
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Gunloc wrote: A large version of the box art: ![]() I wonder who fedora man is? Miles and the judge lady look great, I love their artwork. Whoa! Edgeworth actually looks a ton manlier than any of his prior depictions and I now find myself inexplicably attracted to his manly-good looks. Stupid sexy box art! Kay and the judge lady look fine. No comment there. Fedora Man reminds me of the poacher from The Rescuers Down Under, but with an afro and a blue necktie and HOLY SHIT HE HAS AN AFRO AND A BLUE NECKTIE! I look forward to getting to know this guy. |
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| Author: | Lusankya [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:39 am ] |
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Pleading Eyes wrote: Lusankya wrote: A replacement for Lotta? How would this work? I don't see that Lotta is fitting any specific role. You mean that girl could be the new "witness who appears in more than one case"? ![]() I mean fulfilling Lotta's role as the series' main source for pictures. We already have Lotta and Brushel as journalists, and neither one of them is exactly attractive. So are they replacing them with a prettier, more gimmicky journalist character instead? To me the new guy on the boxart looks like a journalist, but he seems to be far more serious than Brushel. Pleading Eyes wrote: As for what Preserverance was saying, I can understand the frustration with all these new characters that feel like nothing more than gimmicks, when we have a wonderful cast waiting in limbo. Of course new characters are necessary, but AAI's supporting cast felt pretty surface compared to what we've gotten in the past. Meanwhile, everyone from AJ is left hanging, as well as several from the original trilogy. Well there have to be new characters in new cases, they can't use old victims and old witnesses. And what characters are you even referring to? We have Kay, Lang, Badd and Yew. These are the only new characters which play a role in more than one case. How could they be replaced by old characters? And how would AJ characters fit into this game? And saying that the new characters are gimmicks, when we have the likes of Armstrong, Tigre, Mask de Masque etc. in the old games... You guys don't make any sense. If you don't like the game just say it, you don't need a specific reason to not like things. But this fake reasoning is weird. |
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| Author: | Pleading Eyes [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:47 am ] |
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Mr. Bear Jew wrote: Whoa! Edgeworth actually looks a ton manlier than any of his prior depictions and I now find myself inexplicably attracted to his manly-good looks. Stupid sexy box art! Actually, that's one of the reasons I don't like his new art! Haha. I know I'm a terrible fangirl for saying so, but I prefer less pretty and chiseled looking Edgey. Back when he had the wider nose and the rounder face, not the slightly upturned nose and perfectly defined jaw. I just thought it made his design more interesting. Less of a generic bishie than, say, the Gavins. =( Lusankya wrote: You guys don't make any sense. If you don't like the game just say it, you don't need a specific reason to not like things. But this fake reasoning is weird. I don't think it's fake reasoning to say that the cast of AAI feels more shallow and gimmicky to us compared to the casts of past games? 0_o You don't have to agree with our assessment of the AAI characters, of course, but it isn't fake reasoning just because you disagree. ^^; |
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| Author: | Mr. Bear Jew [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:57 am ] |
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Pleading Eyes wrote: Less of a generic bishie like the Gavins. =( I don't see it. Edgeworth's eyes are narrower and he has a much more serious grimace than Klavier or Daryan. |
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| Author: | Pleading Eyes [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:01 am ] |
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Mr. Bear Jew wrote: I don't see it. Edgeworth's eyes are narrower and he has a much more serious grimace than Klavier or Daryan. Exactly! He's always had the squintier eyes, the short and wider nose, the rounder face. Phoenix even has more of a "pretty" design than Edgeworth. But they've made Edgeworth's face prettier in this box art than he was before. The thinner and longer nose, the chiseled jaw, his eyes are still narrow but they've lessened the lines he used to have around his eyes and made them appear less squinted, now instead his eyes look sharp. I prefer his less "hot" design. It was actually more appealing to me that he had quirky features, but carried himself in such a manner that people still thought he was sexy. Now it looks like they're just prettying him up, making him more generically attractive, like the Gavins. |
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| Author: | Lusankya [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:03 am ] |
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Pleading Eyes wrote: I don't think it's fake reasoning to say that the cast of AAI feels more shallow and gimmicky to us compared to the casts of past games? 0_o You don't have to agree with our assessment of the AAI characters, of course, but it isn't fake reasoning just because you disagree. ^^; It is fake reasoning to blame Capcom for introducing new characters (I know you didn't say this). And calling the new characters gimmicky, when there were a lot of gimmicky characters in the old games also feels fake to me. Just say you don't like the new characters. I really have no problem with that. Although I really doubt AAI would be better if we only had old characters... To me it feels some people here just don't want any change at all and are biased against any new characters. |
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| Author: | PouchedRat [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:15 am ] |
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What's that big question mark item..? GK2 exclusive tampon? I love that figure! Wish I could get the special pack, although capcom can keep the tampon /edit- I am already in love with fedora man and his afro..... anything with an afro is instantly awesome. |
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| Author: | Lusankya [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:16 am ] |
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Pleading Eyes wrote: Mr. Bear Jew wrote: I don't see it. Edgeworth's eyes are narrower and he has a much more serious grimace than Klavier or Daryan. Exactly! He's always had the squintier eyes, the short and wider nose, the rounder face. Phoenix even has more of a "pretty" design than Edgeworth. But they've made Edgeworth's face prettier in this box art than he was before. The thinner and longer nose, the chiseled jaw, his eyes are still narrow but they've lessened the lines he used to have around his eyes and made them appear less squinted, now instead his eyes look sharp. Are you sure you're not hallucinating? He looks just the same as on the AAI or JFA boxart. |
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| Author: | Pleading Eyes [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gyakuten Kenji 2 - Feb.3 2011! Collectors package & Limited |
Lusankya wrote: It is fake reasoning to blame Capcom for introducing new characters (I know you didn't say this). And calling the new characters gimmicky, when there were a lot of gimmicky characters in the old games also feels fake to me. Just say you don't like the new characters. I really have no problem with that. Although I really doubt AAI would be better if we only had old characters... To me it feels some people here just don't want any change at all and are biased against any new characters. I'm not against new characters at all! I'm all for bringing new people into the AA universe. I just don't like the newer characters we did get in AAI. Granted, there were gimmicky characters in the older games as well. There's no doubt about that. But who here honestly thought Alba was better written than Gant? And while there were some gimmicky supporting characters, the core of the cast in past games was always very strong in their characterization. AAI had Gumshoe suddenly squeamish around blood (when he's never cared about being near blood before and futhermore is a homocide detective), and Edgeworth taking several steps back in his development just for the sake of him being more of a jerk to Gumshoe. Kay, on the other hand, couldn't even decide on just one schtick and seemed to want to be the sassy assistant (Maya), the techy science girl (Ema), and the maligned youngster (Trucy/Pearl). Not satisfied with having one gimmick, Kay kinda had to have all of them. And even the supporting cast starts to feel like a bit of a rehash of the older cast. Lauren is obsessed with anyone of the opposite gender and immediately falls in love (Larry). Alba is the kindly old man who is secretly behind everything (Gant). Amano is the admired mentor figure who turns against Miles (von Karma). Cammy plays dumb and flashes around her assets to get away with what she does (April). Not to say of course that some themes can't be repeated. This is bound to happen when you have such large casts. It's just when it happens to almost the ENTIRE cast that it becomes frustrating. Even old characters being brought back are overused. Larry and Oldbag, anyone? T&T set up this joke of Larry and Oldbag interacting while avoiding putting the characters together so that their combined comedy relief wouldn't overwhelm and get too irritating. AAI just threw as much of both of them together as it could, resulting in less laughs and more tedium. It's a bit concerning to see Shelly deKiller already being used in case 1 of AAI2. It's even more concerning to see him flaunting his special assassin's symbol right on his jacket, in public, despite this being the very opposite of that calculated caution we saw in his character in JFA. Already he feels like a gimmick rather than a legitimate part of the story. |
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| Author: | Pleading Eyes [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gyakuten Kenji 2 - Feb.3 2011! Collectors package & Limited |
Lusankya wrote: Are you sure you're not hallucinating? He looks just the same as on the AAI or JFA boxart. Well discounting the possibility of me hallucinating, (which you never know, it IS late and I DO have a lot of Halloween candy!) I'm not the only one whose noticed, apparently. Mr. Bear Jew wrote: Whoa! Edgeworth actually looks a ton manlier than any of his prior depictions and I now find myself inexplicably attracted to his manly-good looks. Stupid sexy box art! Just take a look at the images side-by-side and tell me if you can see the differences. Maybe you don't, which fair enough, we can always agree to disagree. But to me the differences are pretty glaring. ![]() See how the older Edgeworth art has him with a shorter, wider nose? The newer art has the longer, thinner nose. Old Edgeworth's face is rounder, less definied. Newer Edgeworth has the more manly, chiseled jaw. Older Edgeworth's eyes look squintier, compared to new Edgeworth's whose look sharp. But again, I realize that for others, a handsomer Edgeworth may be a plus rather than a minus. I'm just odd that way, I guess. I prefer his more unique design to his more "attractive" one. |
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| Author: | Mr. Bear Jew [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gyakuten Kenji 2 - Feb.3 2011! Collectors package & Limited |
Maybe it's the angle at which he's posing, accentuating his facial appearances? As far as I know, we've never seen an out-of-game shot of Edgeworth facing the player. His sharper looks could be attributed to that. |
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| Author: | PouchedRat [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gyakuten Kenji 2 - Feb.3 2011! Collectors package & Limited |
it's different angles, with nose and face being looked up at in the first pic (only slightly but yeah, his face is angled back slightly so we're peering at him from below, or his head is tilted back arrogantly, something like that) moreso than the second pic... which is a straight on head shot. That's my interpretation. It really doesn't look different to me much, except the jaw line seems more hard in the second one than the first, which is a little softer looking. Once again that could just be angle. Granted we're talking about drawings and not photographs, but it's definitely slightly angled. You can tell by hair line and eye line. While drawing, it would have a slightly curved upwards line where the eyes are located. |
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| Author: | Pleading Eyes [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gyakuten Kenji 2 - Feb.3 2011! Collectors package & Limited |
Mr. Bear Jew wrote: Maybe it's the angle at which he's posing, accentuating his facial appearances? As far as I know, we've never seen an out-of-game shot of Edgeworth facing the player. His sharper looks could be attributed to that. I suppose it's a possibility, but I find it unlikely that the overall roundness of his face (and to a lesser extent, the length/thinness of his nose) could be attributed to that, especially since this isn't the only new shot of Edgeworth we have. In all his new shots, Edgeworth's face looks less rounded, more defined. Even in AAI1, we see the beginnings of his evolution to a more attractive character, though not as severe. AAI2 just takes it a step further. See here, a different angle from AAI2, and he still has the more defined jaw. ![]() Even younger, more fresh faced Miles has the shorter, wider nose. (His face is also even rounder, but I guess we could attribute that to his youth) ![]() Though again, I realize I may be the only one who prefers him less attractive, so I apologize for putting a damper on what might other wise be good news for fellow Edgey fangirls! ^^; |
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