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Famitsu has a new article on AA5, confirming the release date. Translating the details now.

The original post: http://taletalesource.blog69.fc2.com/bl ... .html#more
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発売日/7月25日

オドロキくんも法廷で戦う

夕神迅(ユガミ検事)
殺人罪で服役中だが指名を受け法廷に立つ

早期購入特典として衣装DLCが無料配信予定。8月15日までは無料

成歩堂:初代~3のスーツ
オドロキ:塗氏描き下ろし私服
希月心音:セーラー服


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Release date: July 25th.

Apollo will appear in court as well.

New character: Prosecutor Jin Yugami.
Although he is technically serving a sentence for murder, he has been ordered to stand in court.

As an incentive to order early, free costume DLC will be available until August 15th.
Phoenix: His old suit from the first three games.
Apollo: A new casual outfit by character designer Kazuya Nuri.
Kokone: A sailor fuku.


Update: Sorry for the downtime. Jin is confirmed as the main rival prosecutor of the game, and while the scan is cut off, it seems to suggest he'll go up against Apollo in court.

Spoiler: Scan of Jin
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Update 2: A more detailed summary has been provided by Japanese blog [url=http://sinplelove.blog34.fc2.com/blog-entry-4028.htmlSIMPLElove[/url]:

Case 2’s title is difficult to translate, but it could be read as “Turnabout Monsters’ Parade” or something to that effect - the term used is 百鬼夜行, a term referring to groups of monsters or spirits proceeding through the night in a procession. The case features a Steel Samurai-like hero wearing a fox’s mask.

The case involves Apollo and Kokone investigating a “kitsune’s forest” filled with ‘ghosts’ (presumably all this is a movie or theme park), and Apollo is also playable in court, where Jin Yugami acts as prosecutor.

At one point, Apollo is mistaken for a ghost himself because of his hair!

Hopefully we’ll get full scans, or official media, sooner rather than later.
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DLC? DLC? Why does every game have to have freaking DLC these days?
Why would I even want DLC for an Ace Attorney game? This isn't a game like Tales Of, where I will constantly see all my playable characters a ton, as well as in battle - in Gyakuten, after all, I walk around as Phoenix and majority of the time, I won't see him from 3rd-person perspective until I get into court. What would be the point in getting a DLC for him? Unless they really, really go all the way and have all the event scenes and animated cutscenes alter, to reflect the DLC costumes I might get and use.

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Wow, DLC costumes. That sounds really cool. :will: I would buy them, even if they cost money. And the new prosecutor sounds interesting. If he is able to get out of jail to prosecute,
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THERE'S COSTUME DLC WHAT I wanna seeeee! I hope we get it!

Are there pics of the prosecutor or anything?!
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DLC? DLC? Why does every game have to have freaking DLC these days?
Why would I even want DLC for an Ace Attorney game? This isn't a game like Tales Of, where I will constantly see all my playable characters a ton, as well as in battle - in Gyakuten, after all, I walk around as Phoenix and majority of the time, I won't see him from 3rd-person perspective until I get into court. What would be the point in getting a DLC for him? Unless they really, really go all the way and have all the event scenes and animated cutscenes alter, to reflect the DLC costumes I might get and use.

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PS: Why give Kokone a school uniform, her outfit already resembles one greatly...?


My guess (also stated in IRC): these outfits were already modeled for the characters, but they decided not to use them when finalizing the look of the game. Why not use them as a pointless, but motivating for some, incentive for people to buy the game early?

It probably doesn't make any sense in-story though. The only visual novel game I know of where costume changing made sense (though not via DLC) is Analogue: A Hate Story.

Other than that, yes, DLC doesn't make sense in a visual novel game, unless it adds new story (or cases in this case).

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A correction: Jin Yugami is described has having been "ordered/appointed" to stand in court. It's not clear if this is as a prosecutor, or as a witness.
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A correction: Jin Yugami is described has having been "ordered/appointed" to stand in court. It's not clear if this is as a prosecutor, or as a witness.

But he's being referred as ユガミ検事 (Prosecutor Yugami)? Then again, he could be a former prosecutor testifying in court.
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A correction: Jin Yugami is described has having been "ordered/appointed" to stand in court. It's not clear if this is as a prosecutor, or as a witness.

But he's being referred as ユガミ検事 (Prosecutor Yugami)? Then again, he could be a former prosecutor testifying in court.

Yup. It's not clear if he's a former prosecutor who killed someone, or a killer who's now a prosecutor, or what. :yogi:
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So, the name, does it have a meaning?
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Jin Yugami seems to be an interesting name. According to Google Translate:

Jin (迅): fast? appears to be a Chinese character
Yugami (ユガミ): distortion, strain, warp, skew, contortion

Maybe he's a contortionist? Or maybe his shtick/motto/whatever is warping the case or something.
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So, the name, does it have a meaning?


"Yugami" (夕神) is from "night" (yuu, 夕) and "god" (kami, 神), as well as 'distortion' (yugami, 歪み). Jin (迅) isn't used on its own, but means 'swift'. (So 迅雷, jinrai, is a word for a thunderclap.)
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^ That's probably a lot more informed than my take on it.
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DLC?

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Well, "Yugami" comes from the Japanese word for "strain," "distortion," and "bending," so to me, it sounds like this prosecutor isn't exactly a straightforward fellow and bends, or distorts, the truth.

Also, DLC costumes. Oh, Capcom and their overpriced costumes.
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Looks like Polly isn't the prosecutor after all. I knew it was going to be some new guy.
The DLC costumes are pretty weird for a game like Ace Attorney, but whatever. It'll be hilarious if Hobo Nick was a costume.

Anyways, I'm hyped. Hopefully it'll be localized by February of next year. :phoenix:
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Looks like Polly isn't the prosecutor after all. I knew it was going to be some new guy.
The DLC costumes are pretty weird for a game like Ace Attorney, but whatever. It'll be hilarious if Hobo Nick was a costume.

Anyways, I'm hyped. Hopefully it'll be localized by February of next year. :phoenix:


However, it did say Apollo was going to appear in court, and Nick already has Kokone as a defense aide.

It's still possible he could be a former prosecutor who's a witness in the second case. Though inversely, you could say Apollo could be a former defense attorney who will be a witness or suspect.
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Oh god it's true! That means... that means! OH GOD I CAN'T CONTROL IT!
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DLC? Bah. No big deal. Doesn't really bother me since it's nothing substantial for the game, so don't get your knickers in a twist Cat.
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Looks like Polly isn't the prosecutor after all. I knew it was going to be some new guy.
The DLC costumes are pretty weird for a game like Ace Attorney, but whatever. It'll be hilarious if Hobo Nick was a costume.

Anyways, I'm hyped. Hopefully it'll be localized by February of next year. :phoenix:


However, it did say Apollo was going to appear in court, and Nick already has Kokone as a defense aide.

It's still possible he could be a former prosecutor who's a witness in the second case. Though inversely, you could say Apollo could be a former defense attorney who will be a witness or suspect.

I don't think this really matters. PLvsAA has shown that it's possible to have more than one aid behind the defense's bench. I think either Apollo will help Phoenix and/or be a witness. That makes the most sense, IMO.
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Costume DLC in a VN? Huh? That... doesn't make too much sense for me. :/
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Bolt Storm wrote:
Famitsu has a new article on AA5, confirming the release date. Translating the details now.

The original post: http://taletalesource.blog69.fc2.com/bl ... .html#more
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発売日/7月25日

オドロキくんも法廷で戦う

夕神迅(ユガミ検事)
殺人罪で服役中だが指名を受け法廷に立つ

早期購入特典として衣装DLCが無料配信予定。8月15日までは無料

成歩堂:初代~3のスーツ
オドロキ:塗氏描き下ろし私服
希月心音:セーラー服


Translation wrote:
Release date: July 25th.

Apollo will appear in court as well.

New character: Prosecutor Jin Yugami.
Although he is technically serving a sentence for murder, he has been ordered to stand in court.

As an incentive to order early, free costume DLC will be available until August 15th.
Phoenix: His old suit from the first three games.
Apollo: A new casual outfit by character designer Kazuya Nuri.
Kokone: A sailor fuku.

Psst. It says 戦う. That implies Apollo will be playable. THE COLOR LOGOS DON'T LIE. Yessssssssss.

Based on those colors, that may also suggest that Edgeworth will not only appear in the game, but also play a major role in it. Whether or not it means he'll be playable remains to be seen.

The prosecutor's name by itself means nothing, but compared with Kokone's moon motif, there's bound to be something between them.
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Mh, interesting.
So, Apollo isn't the prosecutor....?
Maybe this "Jin Yugami" is Apollo transvestite of him (joke). Who knows.
When it say "Apollo will appear in court as well." means We will use him as defense attorney?
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Psst. It says 戦う. That implies Apollo will be playable. THE COLOR LOGOS DON'T LIE. Yessssssssss.


:ack: Seriously? I was wondering if that was the case, but I wasn't sure. I mean, it literally says "he'll fight in court", so I thought it was just them being dramatic. Is 戦う often used to indicate a playable character?

Well, in any event, hopefully full scans will clear this up.
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Psst. It says 戦う. That implies Apollo will be playable. THE COLOR LOGOS DON'T LIE. Yessssssssss.

Based on those colors, that may also suggest that Edgeworth will not only appear in the game, but also play a major role in it. Whether or not it means he'll be playable remains to be seen.

The prosecutor's name by itself means nothing, but compared with Kokone's moon motif, there's bound to be something between them.


Indeed When I saw the logo I was a bit confused. Text is blue, but the number "5" is Red. And there is a little tail, like an arrow, on the number 5.
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Psst. It says 戦う. That implies Apollo will be playable. THE COLOR LOGOS DON'T LIE. Yessssssssss.
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Bolt Storm wrote:
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Psst. It says 戦う. That implies Apollo will be playable. THE COLOR LOGOS DON'T LIE. Yessssssssss.


:ack: Seriously? I was wondering if that was the case, but I wasn't sure. I mean, it literally says "he'll fight in court", so I thought it was just them being dramatic. Is 戦う often used to indicate a playable character?

Well, in any event, hopefully full scans will clear this up.

As I said, it "implies". It's no confirmation, but usually just saying "appearing in court" can be written with 法廷に立つ or something like it. To actually "fight" in court means a much greater amount of interaction. I've seen 戦う being used for playable characters too, so...

But I admit that I'm crazily hyped about this. Definitely buying on day one. Don't care for price.
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Fighting just means fighting, Rubia. It does suggest a prominent role, but it doesn't confirm anything at all beyond that. Don't get ahead of yourself.

And are you serious about that thing about logo colours? Edgeworth probably is going to be in the game, based on that cutscene they showed at TGS, but Logo Haruspicy is an incredibly poor basis to make that guess on. The 5 isn't even the right colour!
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At this point, I'm betting a lot of people have seen them already, but it can't hurt to go ahead and provide links. Here's Apollo's profile, Jin Yugami's profile, and info on Case 2, all with screens, all straight from the GS5 official website.
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Man this news makes me happy.

It simultaneously dispells the Prosecutor Apollo rumour (I never thought it really fitted him or seemed logical) and confirms he'll be playable.

Plus the new prosecutor looks suitably badass, as a criminal prosecutor should.
Also wow that is a massive and well hidden ponytail.
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NOTE: I posted this just after the new thread opened, so I reposted it over there since there's probably going to be more discussion over there (plus a lot of the information I'm referring to is in the OP of that thread). I've kept it here for posterity, but you might want to take the discussion over here.



Finally, back in business.

From what I've gathered from glancing at Tumblr comments, people are either super hyped or somewhat discouraged about the information coming out. It's hard to follow anything, let alone discuss things, over there, so I'm interested to see a real discussion on here (beyond the three or so people I've been talking to on IRC).

Here are a few random thoughts I have, most of which I already expressed on IRC.

Jin is the most over-the-top designed prosecutor so far (try to name all the reasons why), and I see that being a bit too much for some people. Personally, I hope he has good motivations, otherwise he's going to be a what-you-see-is-what-you-get character.

Alternate outfits are really strange in a visual novel game, let alone via DLC, and I don't think any other visual novels do that because, well, it's pointless. I can only think of one visual novel that has (not DLC) costume changing, and it made sense: Analogue: A Hate Story. At least right now those outfits are just an incentive to buy the game early, but I'm sure people will complain more if it turns into paid DLC later.

Not really a fan of any of the alternate outfits, although I notice that the classic Phoenix outfit removes his hair lock, which is an interesting detail. I wonder if the reason these outfits exist in the first place is because at least one was fully modeled at some point, but they were dropped in favor of the current designs.

Character designs in this game are definitely a bit different from the other AA games. Phoenix and Apollo's irises are HUGE. While I wouldn't say the sprites in past AA games were realistic, they at least looked natural enough to me. But these eyes make Phoenix look feminine from the front perspective, at least to me. Apollo's nose looks a bit weird from the front too. I can get used to it, and the translation from sprite to 3D model isn't easy, but the little things in the designs just feel a bit off.

And as usual, Japan gets ton of pre-order bonuses. Probably won't come to the US, even though a few localized games (like Ni No Kuni) have been getting preorder bonuses in the US lately.

I am still generally positive about this game. Just cautiously optimistic.

Now that we have in-game shots of Apollo, who is playable in the second case, I wonder where bandaged Apollo comes from. Are the screenshots of Apollo in court directly correlated to Case 2, or could those screenshots be from anywhere? Even so, it puts the theory of Apollo getting hurt in the bombing into question, although the theory isn't disproven.
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DeMatador wrote:
Blak, you're only allowed one gif rain per megaton, and I'm delighted by the way you're using it.

get
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I'll crash the servers again once PLvsPW rolls around. *cough*
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henke37 wrote:
Now if only we had people who could translate these things.

Derp, I'm sure there are.

Jin's quote comes to about "If you slash down a man in court, there will be a named great blade known as evidence." I'll let you think about what it means.

Edit: Neni has it right. It makes more sense for him to say "To cut down a man in court, one must use a blade called evidence." :sillytrucy:

Alias, "Distortion of the Legal World". And damn, the man's specialty is psychology. Kokone, you got some competition. But why can I only imagine him with Light Yagami's voice?

Oh yeah. Case 2, I'd rather translate as "Turnabout Pandemonium". It takes place in a village, Kyuubi Mura (lit. Nine-tail Village), famous as "Monsters' Alley" (or ghosts or demons or whatev).

:apollo-shock: What? No! These "horns" aren't for intimidation, really!

Aaaaaand, Kokone knows about Jin. How much she knows is yet to be revealed. (And apparently, Apollo is back to his usual spineless self.)

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DeMatador wrote:
Blak, you're only allowed one gif rain per megaton, and I'm delighted by the way you're using it.

get
haipu


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I'll crash the servers again once PLvsPW rolls around. *cough*

Go for it, but don't keep the servers down too long!
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Re: AA5 in Famitsu 4/17 - 7/25 release, more story, DLCTopic%20Title

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Jin looks like he hasn't left his middle school scene phase yet lol
He still looks kinda badass though. At least Apollo will have his hands full, from the looks of it.
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Knowing Capcom, the extra content's probably going to be paid DLC that's already on the cartridge. :grey:
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TopHatProfessor1014 wrote:
Knowing Capcom, the extra content's probably going to be paid DLC that's already on the cartridge. :grey:


The Capcom hate-train. I never bought a ticket to ride, nor will I plan to.
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Blak The Great wrote:
TopHatProfessor1014 wrote:
Knowing Capcom, the extra content's probably going to be paid DLC that's already on the cartridge. :grey:


The Capcom hate-train. I never bought a ticket to ride, nor will I plan to.


It's not that I hate Capcom, per se; it's just that I'm really baffled by their stupid decisions such as their whole paid DLC fiasco, pretty much pulling the plug from the Mega Man series, not localizing certain games, and really not listening to their own fans. The paid DLC on AA5 is really just a joke on my part, because I highly doubt they WOULD do that. There's probably going to be very little DLC, so it would make no sense to already have it on the cartridge and charge for it. They should go the Professor Layton route and give FREE DLC.

I haven't forgotten that they're the great company that gave us Mega Man, Street Fighter, Ace Attorney, and Resident Evil in the first place; but they're doing such a myriad of dumb business decisions that are only angering fans. All I want is for Capcom to clean up their act and, well... CARE!!!!! Is that so much to ask? :edgeworth:
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