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Is there even proof that this game will take place after AJ?
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The only problem is... Unless they are extremely careful, the entire game could turn into the 5th case in the first game, where it seems the following games have no basis on it whatsoever, except for when in AJ, Ema remembers working with Phoenix....
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Konatabjection wrote:
Considering It COULD take place before Apollo Justice....
The only problem is... Unless they are extremely careful, the entire game could turn into the 5th case in the first game, where it seems the following games have no basis on it whatsoever, except for when in AJ, Ema remembers working with Phoenix....
The only problem is... Unless they are extremely careful, the entire game could turn into the 5th case in the first game, where it seems the following games have no basis on it whatsoever, except for when in AJ, Ema remembers working with Phoenix....
Capcom has confirmed both that AJ:AA takes place 7 years after T&T and is not an AU, and that RFTA is canon.
As if that wasn't enough, there are a few references to JFA and T&T in AJ. Nick even had his Magatama in the flashback of case 4-4.
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I guess that makes sense....
And now that I think about it....
Didn't Phoenix lose his attorneys badge very shortly after T&T?
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Konatabjection wrote:
Hmmmm....
I guess that makes sense....
And now that I think about it....
Didn't Phoenix lose his attorneys badge very shortly after T&T?
I guess that makes sense....
And now that I think about it....
Didn't Phoenix lose his attorneys badge very shortly after T&T?
Yes, he lost it a few months after T&T ended. Because of this short time frame I always assumed that GS5 would come after GS4 in respect to the timeline.
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The main "proof" for the assumption is the way AJ ended. The end of 3-5 makes it clear that Phoenix is an accomplished defense attorney, Maya is ready to take on her responsibilities and the trilogy reaches a satisfying end. On the other hand, Apollo acknowledges in 4-4 that he is still a greenhorn and there are plot points set up purely to be explored in future games. We still don't know everything that was going on with the Gramarye's, only got a tiny glimpse at Apollo's past and I suspect the "Trucy is sad" scene is also intended to be explored at a later point.
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There's enough fodder for one past case, but not a whole game.
Example: What happened to the Feys exactly? I really liked Pearl
So maybe they'll use a past case as a tutorial, and then move on, like in T&T.
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Thibaroo Flufflefox wrote:
On the other hand, most of the characters that were there at the end of T&T mysteriously vanished in AJ...
There's enough fodder for one past case, but not a whole game.
Example: What happened to the Feys exactly? I really liked Pearl
So maybe they'll use a past case as a tutorial, and then move on, like in T&T.
There's enough fodder for one past case, but not a whole game.
Example: What happened to the Feys exactly? I really liked Pearl
So maybe they'll use a past case as a tutorial, and then move on, like in T&T.
The fact that the old characters aren't around in AJ:AA doesn't make it an AU. They have their own lives too, you know.
And I hope there will be no more flashback cases.
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FabuVinny wrote:
Specifically, 3-5 took place from the 6th to the 9th of February 2019 while the flashback case of 4-4 took place on April 29th 2019. There's no room for Phoenix to be the defense attorney between the end of his trilogy and the start of AJ and Edgeworth already appears to be picking up that part of the timeline anyway.
The main "proof" for the assumption is the way AJ ended. The end of 3-5 makes it clear that Phoenix is an accomplished defense attorney, Maya is ready to take on her responsibilities and the trilogy reaches a satisfying end. On the other hand, Apollo acknowledges in 4-4 that he is still a greenhorn and there are plot points set up purely to be explored in future games. We still don't know everything that was going on with the Gramarye's, only got a tiny glimpse at Apollo's past and I suspect the "Trucy is sad" scene is also intended to be explored at a later point.
The main "proof" for the assumption is the way AJ ended. The end of 3-5 makes it clear that Phoenix is an accomplished defense attorney, Maya is ready to take on her responsibilities and the trilogy reaches a satisfying end. On the other hand, Apollo acknowledges in 4-4 that he is still a greenhorn and there are plot points set up purely to be explored in future games. We still don't know everything that was going on with the Gramarye's, only got a tiny glimpse at Apollo's past and I suspect the "Trucy is sad" scene is also intended to be explored at a later point.
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Thibaroo Flufflefox wrote:
On the other hand, most of the characters that were there at the end of T&T mysteriously vanished in AJ...
There's enough fodder for one past case, but not a whole game.
Example: What happened to the Feys exactly? I really liked Pearl
So maybe they'll use a past case as a tutorial, and then move on, like in T&T.
There's enough fodder for one past case, but not a whole game.
Example: What happened to the Feys exactly? I really liked Pearl
So maybe they'll use a past case as a tutorial, and then move on, like in T&T.
I miss Pearl too...
I know GS4 is a new cast, but I will always wonder what happened with some of the characters from GS1 - GS3.
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Has there ever been a AA game that goes BACK in time?
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Thibaroo Flufflefox wrote:
So maybe they'll use a past case as a tutorial, and then move on, like in T&T.
Kristoph's first case, anyone?
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DramaticaXIV2 wrote:
If they use it in the past, Machi probably can't be in it. :(
Not necessarily. He's 14 in AJ... YOUNGMACHI!!!
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In AJ Ema says she's "back after 9 years" so RFTA can't be around the same time as T&T.. I think.
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grim_tales wrote:
I thought AJ took place 7 years after AA1 - not T&T.
In AJ Ema says she's "back after 9 years" so RFTA can't be around the same time as T&T.. I think.
In AJ Ema says she's "back after 9 years" so RFTA can't be around the same time as T&T.. I think.
But your second statement proves that your first statement is wrong. If AJ took place 7 years after AA1, then Ema would be back after 6 or 7 years.
RFTA is about 2 months after the end of AA. I remember Phoenix narrating that he didn't take a single case in 2 months after Maya left (maybe out of heartache
), until Ema showed up. Apparently he, like all heroes, needs a female sidekick to operate.I don't think there is any way for GS5 to take place before AJ short of introducing a whole new set of characters. Naruhobo's case was, I believe, Apollo's first case, so he couldn't have defended anyone before that. Phoenix's last case was only a few months after T&T.
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Emperor Ing wrote:
Let me respond to your question with another question:
Has there ever been a AA game that goes BACK in time?
Has there ever been a AA game that goes BACK in time?
Game 3: 3-1, 3-4
Game 4: 4-4 Flashback, MASON System
1-5 was written later and went 'back' in time from game 3.
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Still, I really hope that Capcom doesn't just leave the plot holes as plot holes, as it would kind of suck. Although filling them would involve new character designs for the older Maya, Gumshoe, etc.
Not to mention that many fanfic authors would play the game only to find that their latest story was now obsolete.
Including me, actually.
But still, not many people like the new cast. There are lots of Gavin haters out there, ja? I myself don't like... well, any of the minor characters. Though the major ones are good.
There is really no point in speculating after all, I guess.
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Kefka Palazzo wrote:
Konatabjection wrote:
Considering It COULD take place before Apollo Justice....
The only problem is... Unless they are extremely careful, the entire game could turn into the 5th case in the first game, where it seems the following games have no basis on it whatsoever, except for when in AJ, Ema remembers working with Phoenix....
The only problem is... Unless they are extremely careful, the entire game could turn into the 5th case in the first game, where it seems the following games have no basis on it whatsoever, except for when in AJ, Ema remembers working with Phoenix....
Capcom has confirmed both that AJ:AA takes place 7 years after T&T and is not an AU, and that RFTA is canon.
As if that wasn't enough, there are a few references to JFA and T&T in AJ. Nick even had his Magatama in the flashback of case 4-4.
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Thibaroo Flufflefox wrote:
Not to mention that many fanfic authors would play the game only to find that their latest story was now obsolete.
This is the risk that all fanfic authors for a continuing series take. Think of all the Phoenix/Edgeworth fans who were ficcing after games 1 and 2 and might not have known that Phoenix's girlfriend shows up in game 3! My own long fic was destroyed by AJ but that's what the AU label is for.
As someone pointed out in another thread a while back, most cases in the AA series deal with flashback at least to some extent: building on past events is the easiest way to give a killer a believable and interesting motive, since most people don't just stab each other for no reason and at random.
The kind of plot holes that I'd like to see AJ fill are things like Apollo's backstory, how Lamiroir ended up in Borginia, and whether or not Vera's supposed attempted kidnapping was connected to the greater plot (I'd like to think it was, if only because it was mentioned at all). Those kinds of things could easily be solved with DL-6 level of flashbacking.
I don't necessarily want to see a whole flash back case, but if they decide to do it I would be happiest if it was with Kristoph, since he has little backstory outside of the Gramarye case and thus there's less danger of contradictions.
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NinjaMonkey wrote:
Although I'd rather have GS5 take place after T&T (thereby writing AJ out of the AA canon), I'd say without hesitation that it will take place after the events of 4-4.
hmm i guess i agree with you on that. well it would be a good thing if they made like a GS4.5 where they let you play one year later after T&T
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