Re: What part should Phoenix play in GS5?
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Re: What part should Phoenix play in GS5?
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phoenixwrightmaster wrote:
i thinks that phoenix come to the defense bench again. maybe with trucy AND maya
Unless there's a past trial or something, I don't see phoenix spending any longer than one introductory case on the bench...
That way, phoenix doesn't take to much of the light away from apollo...
and as awesome as it would be, I think the combined forces of maya and trucy would drive phoenix mentally insane...
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I don't like Phoenix overshadowing Apollo. It's his game, Feenie! You had yours, now sit down and watch!
But, since he was in AJ and people want to know what happened to Maya, Edgeworth and all the people, he probably will overshadow Apollo.
Again.
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Re: What part should Phoenix play in GS5?
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Haru_San wrote:
I hope he doesn't appear... Nor Maya or Edgeworth.
I don't like Phoenix overshadowing Apollo. It's his game, Feenie! You had yours, now sit down and watch!
But, since he was in AJ and people want to know what happened to Maya, Edgeworth and all the people, he probably will overshadow Apollo.
Again.
I don't like Phoenix overshadowing Apollo. It's his game, Feenie! You had yours, now sit down and watch!
But, since he was in AJ and people want to know what happened to Maya, Edgeworth and all the people, he probably will overshadow Apollo.
Again.
I personally thought that phoenix's placement in apollo justice worked just fine... I really liked how they did ace attorney 4 and look forward to them doing something similar in the next one...
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Re: What part should Phoenix play in GS5?
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phoenixwrightmaster wrote:
gyakuten saiban is the japanese name of phoenix wright. in gs4 was phoenix there so i thinks that phoenix come back in gs5. maybe as a lawyer maybe as a hobo. who shull say it????
Just so you know, Gyakuten Saiban means Turnabout Court if you translate it. Nick's Japanese name is Ryuuichi Naruhodou.
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I just keep getting lol-ish ideas including cross-examining Payne and/or Udgey, or defending them....(I can imagine so much stuff they could get in trouble for.....
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thekalby wrote:
and half way through that case apollo, maya, or trucy dies and it would tie together a bunch of unexpected characters from the previous games.
Lol, got damn. Pretty extreme, but it'd surely be thrilling. Some fans would definitely be disappointed though >>.
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Baloo wrote:
I say make Apollo Justice non-canon, and bring Phoenix back as main character.
i agree! buuh apollo! yays for phoenix!
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Baloo wrote:
I say make Apollo Justice non-canon, and bring Phoenix back as main character.
Yeah, with a spin off series for Apollo too xD
Then we'd be swamped in choices for what to play...
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Maybe make him a victim?
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1. No new characters, or return of the old cast coming to prosecute (no mix of old and new cast in a serious plot-changing role)
2. People who want Phoenix to be more involved/see his back in court are happy. Even if he (most likely) will lose.
3. Show Apollo what real evil demon prosecutors are like. Klavier is waaaaaaaay too nice. He's like, I want life to be simple, so I'll let the defendant get off the hook if he's really not guilty. Even Edgeworth after his change of heart was harder. Franziska, Manfred, Godot, were all "MUST GET GUIILTY!!!!!" kind of people. Well, actually, Godot's case, it was more
Spoiler:
but anyway...
Yeah. It would just be cool to see Apollo under extreme pressure. There wasn't even a full bar penalty in all of Apollo Justice. I think.
Wow.. long rant...
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Re: What part should Phoenix play in GS5?
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The Objector wrote:
I would make Phoenix a prosecutor. He was been cleared for the bar exam again, and in Japan (maybe the Americas) you can choose whether to be a Defense Attorney or a Prosecutor. There are a number of pros to this:
1. No new characters, or return of the old cast coming to prosecute (no mix of old and new cast in a serious plot-changing role)
2. People who want Phoenix to be more involved/see his back in court are happy. Even if he (most likely) will lose.
3. Show Apollo what real evil demon prosecutors are like. Klavier is waaaaaaaay too nice. He's like, I want life to be simple, so I'll let the defendant get off the hook if he's really not guilty. Even Edgeworth after his change of heart was harder. Franziska, Manfred, Godot, were all "MUST GET GUIILTY!!!!!" kind of people. Well, actually, Godot's case, it was more
but anyway...
Yeah. It would just be cool to see Apollo under extreme pressure. There wasn't even a full bar penalty in all of Apollo Justice. I think.
Wow.. long rant...
1. No new characters, or return of the old cast coming to prosecute (no mix of old and new cast in a serious plot-changing role)
2. People who want Phoenix to be more involved/see his back in court are happy. Even if he (most likely) will lose.
3. Show Apollo what real evil demon prosecutors are like. Klavier is waaaaaaaay too nice. He's like, I want life to be simple, so I'll let the defendant get off the hook if he's really not guilty. Even Edgeworth after his change of heart was harder. Franziska, Manfred, Godot, were all "MUST GET GUIILTY!!!!!" kind of people. Well, actually, Godot's case, it was more
Spoiler:
but anyway...
Yeah. It would just be cool to see Apollo under extreme pressure. There wasn't even a full bar penalty in all of Apollo Justice. I think.
Wow.. long rant...
I agree with your rant. We can only speculate at this point though. We have to give Edgeworth his game first before they jump back into the AJ universe.
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....No but seriously? He will probably be in the background but the focus will be elsewhere. They're experimenting with a totally new system, might as well focus the story elsewhere as well. =)
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LESS PHOENIX.
As much as I love the guy -- he's my favorite character! -- the series needs to move on. I'd love to still see him sporadically appear, sure, but not to be there nearly all the time and spoonfeed you all the information. A return as a prosecutor would be a cool twist, but I really don't see it in his character. He's defense 100%, I believe. If he was in only one case and went MIA for the rest of the game I'd be cool.
So in conclusion: I don't want him to disappear, but his chapter of the story was pretty much over with AJ:AA, so the series ought to turn the page.
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Then if possible there should be no nick at all. But being realistic this is not possible. So the only thing i can think of is to have nick be like grossberg in AA. The same type of role grossberg was. Yes, I want nick to be back in blue, have his own firm, and provide one piece o evidence to just to unlock something, provide some case background, and that's it. No more appearance after that ever.
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1) Keep Phoenix as the head of the new jurist system. The writers were pretty much forced to make the jury system look good as one of the requirements by the executives, so maybe Phoenis could play an active role in the story by working to better the system and actully have it make more sense then the muck they made into case 4-4.
2) If they decide the jurist system doesn't need any long term changes over the years, instead give Phoenix back his attorney's badge, and have him open the Wright and Justice Law Offices. Working his own cases, Phoenix will be too busy to interfere with Apollo's, allowing the new cast the chance to develop properly, and giving Phoenix a proper write-off for his character, and then in the final case he'll play a minor role to help save the day. Oh, and maybe make a small reference to Maya working with him. :D
Killing off Phoenix or making him a killer however, would frankly be a horrible idea, and would do nothing but anger a lot of the fans. I can't speak for everyone, but I know quite a few people who tolerated what AA4 did to him, but would simply give up on the series altogether if Phoenix was murdered or became a murderer.
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The one he played in AJ. He sould play background role. I wouldn't to see him return to the bench, as nice as it is, it's Apollo's game now. To be honest though I would love to see Maya and/or Edgeworth, even if they are only in one case.
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DarkWobbuffet wrote:
I can see Phoenix doing one of two things in future titles...
1) Keep Phoenix as the head of the new jurist system. The writers were pretty much forced to make the jury system look good as one of the requirements by the executives, so maybe Phoenis could play an active role in the story by working to better the system and actully have it make more sense then the muck they made into case 4-4.
2) If they decide the jurist system doesn't need any long term changes over the years, instead give Phoenix back his attorney's badge, and have him open the Wright and Justice Law Offices. Working his own cases, Phoenix will be too busy to interfere with Apollo's, allowing the new cast the chance to develop properly, and giving Phoenix a proper write-off for his character, and then in the final case he'll play a minor role to help save the day. Oh, and maybe make a small reference to Maya working with him. :D
Killing off Phoenix or making him a killer however, would frankly be a horrible idea, and would do nothing but anger a lot of the fans. I can't speak for everyone, but I know quite a few people who tolerated what AA4 did to him, but would simply give up on the series altogether if Phoenix was murdered or became a murderer.
1) Keep Phoenix as the head of the new jurist system. The writers were pretty much forced to make the jury system look good as one of the requirements by the executives, so maybe Phoenis could play an active role in the story by working to better the system and actully have it make more sense then the muck they made into case 4-4.
2) If they decide the jurist system doesn't need any long term changes over the years, instead give Phoenix back his attorney's badge, and have him open the Wright and Justice Law Offices. Working his own cases, Phoenix will be too busy to interfere with Apollo's, allowing the new cast the chance to develop properly, and giving Phoenix a proper write-off for his character, and then in the final case he'll play a minor role to help save the day. Oh, and maybe make a small reference to Maya working with him. :D
Killing off Phoenix or making him a killer however, would frankly be a horrible idea, and would do nothing but anger a lot of the fans. I can't speak for everyone, but I know quite a few people who tolerated what AA4 did to him, but would simply give up on the series altogether if Phoenix was murdered or became a murderer.
Hehe.
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Yeah but thats a good plan you've got there. Though I wouldn't like to see him written off. Killing him or having him put behind bars is an extreme angle besides I don't see him as a killer.
Killing Phoenix would be the equivalent of Capcom chopping off their own arm, people would just resent Apollo as they'd associate his game with Nick's death.
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Quote:
The Wright/Justice Law offices - Where Justice is always Wright!
Oh no he didn't !!!!!
lol !!! Now capcom cannot use that line anymore if they did decide to make a Wright and Justice Law Office in GS5. Not unless they are willing to pay you for it. Quickly !!! Patent the line!!! lol
BTT
If they decide to stick with hobohodo. After the tutorial case 1. Have him go away already, lets say to a village where he will meditate under a rushing waterfall to seek of enlightenment and search for his purpose in life. something like that. Then he will pop up at the last recess of the final case just to help a apollo who, despite becoming a very good lawyer on his own already, is in the verge of giving up because of that case which was impossible to win and. I leave capcom to write a case that will make this work.
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babyjosef17 wrote:
Quote:
The Wright/Justice Law offices - Where Justice is always Wright!
Oh no he didn't !!!!!
lol !!! Now capcom cannot use that line anymore if they did decide to make a Wright and Justice Law Office in GS5. Not unless they are willing to pay you for it. Quickly !!! Patent the line!!! lol
BTT
If they decide to stick with hobohodo. After the tutorial case 1. Have him go away already, lets say to a village where he will meditate under a rushing waterfall to seek of enlightenment and search for his purpose in life. something like that. Then he will pop up at the last recess of the final case just to help a apollo who, despite becoming a very good lawyer on his own already, is in the verge of giving up because of that case which was impossible to win and. I leave capcom to write a case that will make this work.
NOOOOOO
no more hobohodo oh phoenix, what happened to you???
i'd rather phoenix die than him reappear. let's just forget that hobohodo ever happened, capcom.
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babyjosef17 wrote:
If they decide to stick with hobohodo. After the tutorial case 1. Have him go away already, lets say to a village where he will meditate under a rushing waterfall to seek of enlightenment and search for his purpose in life. something like that.
Yes!
KURAIN!
We know they spend ages training under waterfalls...
lemony wrote:
NOOOOOO
no more hobohodo oh phoenix, what happened to you???
i'd rather phoenix die than him reappear. let's just forget that hobohodo ever happened, capcom.
no more hobohodo oh phoenix, what happened to you???
i'd rather phoenix die than him reappear. let's just forget that hobohodo ever happened, capcom.
It's an alternate scenario, the sequel to 1-5. GS2 and 3 were a separate scenario on a different timeline. If it's officially declared as such, all the fanbase's woes will be resolved!
BTW if they kill Phoenix, or make him a murderer, I'm going to get really mad. And actively demand the game is ret-coned. I think many people would support this endevour.
Speaking of, I never see much marketing with Hobo!Phoenix these days. Recall this fascinating pic
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icer wrote:
babyjosef17 wrote:
If they decide to stick with hobohodo. After the tutorial case 1. Have him go away already, lets say to a village where he will meditate under a rushing waterfall to seek of enlightenment and search for his purpose in life. something like that.
Yes!
KURAIN!
We know they spend ages training under waterfalls...
lemony wrote:
NOOOOOO
no more hobohodo oh phoenix, what happened to you???
i'd rather phoenix die than him reappear. let's just forget that hobohodo ever happened, capcom.
no more hobohodo oh phoenix, what happened to you???
i'd rather phoenix die than him reappear. let's just forget that hobohodo ever happened, capcom.
It's an alternate scenario, the sequel to 1-5. GS2 and 3 were a separate scenario on a different timeline. If it's officially declared as such, all the fanbase's woes will be resolved!
BTW if they kill Phoenix, or make him a murderer, I'm going to get really mad. And actively demand the game is ret-coned. I think many people would support this endevour.
Speaking of, I never see much marketing with Hobo!Phoenix these days. Recall this fascinating pic
Ya killing Phoenix is not the right way to go, If Phoenix dies AA dies with him....unless they're planning on pulling some 'Phoenix revival' type ploy which would just be odd I think.
As for timeline wise, I think we should await to see what things are revealed in PP to see if some clue is unearthed.
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No part.
More Apollo, plz.
Or maybe Phoenix could be a hobo lawyer.
Maybe help Polly in the tutorial case, then gtfo.
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Emperor Ing wrote:
He should be the murderer in every case.
And the victims can be bpopular characters from Apollo Justice Ace Attorney. The final case would of course be Thalassa being accused of murdering her children, her attorney is Apollo. During this case Apollo makes several great points each of which would completely shatter the possibility of Thalassa being the killer, but they are all disregarded as Apollo is a ghost and no one can hear him. The end result is that Thalassa gets the death sentance.
..............Or not.
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LuminousXMI wrote:
Emperor Ing wrote:
He should be the murderer in every case.
And the victims can be bpopular characters from Apollo Justice Ace Attorney.
Erm, no.
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Re: What part should Phoenix play in GS5?
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LuminousXMI wrote:
Emperor Ing wrote:
He should be the murderer in every case.
And the victims can be bpopular characters from Apollo Justice Ace Attorney. The final case would of course be Thalassa being accused of murdering her children, her attorney is Apollo. During this case Apollo makes several great points each of which would completely shatter the possibility of Thalassa being the killer, but they are all disregarded as Apollo is a ghost and no one can hear him. The end result is that Thalassa gets the death sentance.
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Trucy: [Daddy was fired from legal clerk for loitering] Daddy has a fun new job as a street sweeper!
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LuminousXMI wrote:
The end result is that Thalassa gets the death sentence.
YES YES YES YES YES!
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icer wrote:
LuminousXMI wrote:
The end result is that Thalassa gets the death sentence.
YES YES YES YES YES!
All for that to be honest.
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