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this has properly been mentioned (lots of words to read) but i wouldn't be surprised if :shelly: would go after Phoenix (resulting in death or hiding) because of the card :franny: has. but would she really do that? or just be annoyed that someone beat her in destroying Wrights reputation.
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^^^ Thanks for describing the fancase I'm planning, more or less.

I don't know if Shelly would 'go after' Hobo Nick in GS5, but I have a feeling that de Killer will make a comeback.
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No...he doesn't (oddly).

Which is why I said it like that, signifying that I didn't think that it would happen and comapred it to when Edgey came back.
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I have only one thing to say on this topic.

"Phoenix Wright chooses death."


Then in the next game, we hear his theme song.


Phoenix has a theme song? :cody-shock2:

AA1's cornered theme is essentially his theme

Spoiler: 4-1
(it does play in AJ that one time when he's helping you).

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Death Note is awesome.

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Um... what about the "Objection" themes from the first three games?
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Oh gawd...that would be awesome and terrible and sad and wonderfully dramatic and sad ;_;
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So, like, I have a thought...

What if Maya Fey was the last murder victim? *shot*

That's so horrible, I'd just go bawwwwwwww.
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What if Klavier was murdered and one of the old characters did it?

Maybe, 5-5 (yes, I'm assuming 5 cases) will be like 2-4, where it'll be an epic filler case.

I got it! It was a complex, fully planned (even with a fall guy) metophorical time bomb (somewhat like 4-4), but the criminal died while waiting for it to go off.

I think that'd just be epic.
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PHOENIX GOES AIZEN!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO! YEA!

he could fake his death, influence the prosecutor (franny or edgeworth) to think it was someone who killed him while the whole time the trial is going on he leaves forged evidence everywhere pointing to apollo's client. the prosecutor wins. Okay everything after this is like a cut scene or something. At apollo's next trial phoenix walks in and reveals that he did this all to kill someone that Blackmailed/wronged him something like that and makes some kind of phantom of the opera disaperance and then next game title comes up. (next game, something to do with investigating phoenix or something so like it could be about everyone trying to find phoenix and stuff)
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Bossmuff wrote:
Let's cut to the chase.

How would people feel if the victim of the last trial of GS5 was none other than Phoenix Wright?


Well Capcom decided "HEY! Here's a great idea! Let's make sure Phoenix gets hit by a car flying into a pole! Also make sure that he isn't hurt people don't like pain >.>"
So yeah I could see Capcom killing them off...

On that note I will laugh to myself for typing that :edgy:
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Jushiro wrote:
PHOENIX GOES AIZEN!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO! YEA!

he could fake his death, influence the prosecutor (franny or edgeworth) to think it was someone who killed him while the whole time the trial is going on he leaves forged evidence everywhere pointing to apollo's client. the prosecutor wins. Okay everything after this is like a cut scene or something. At apollo's next trial phoenix walks in and reveals that he did this all to kill someone that Blackmailed/wronged him something like that and makes some kind of phantom of the opera disaperance and then next game title comes up. (next game, something to do with investigating phoenix or something so like it could be about everyone trying to find phoenix and stuff)

That would be really out of character for Nick, but if correctly executed that would make a pretty epic case.
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I agree with Marshmello on this one.
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Only one thing can justify the death of Phoenix.

If the murder weapon was a stepladder.
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Tamagon wrote:
Only one thing can justify the death of Phoenix.

If the murder weapon was a stepladder.

Stepladder, ladder, same thing. :maya:
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Tamagon wrote:
Only one thing can justify the death of Phoenix.

If the murder weapon was a stepladder.

You win the Internet.

And RBJ: I will never love you.
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Marshmello wrote:
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Only one thing can justify the death of Phoenix.

If the murder weapon was a stepladder.

You win the Internet.

And RBJ: I will never love you.

...And another one goes on the list... :sadshoe:
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If Phoenix dies from stepladder/ladder, Maya dies by urn.
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If Phoenix dies from stepladder/ladder, Maya dies by urn.


Vengeance from beyond the grave?

:ami: I am so damn sick of you breaking my urn every time you get a craving for American beer! YOU DIE NOW!

:maya-shock: EEEEEEEK!
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I already made a Turnabout Nightmare trial... if they take my case name... I would cry.
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Hey don't mess RBJ she didn't do anything to you!

Thanks, that made me feel tons better! :edgy:

And Marshmello, I was kidding about the stepladder/ladder thing.
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Bossmuff wrote:
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If Phoenix dies from stepladder/ladder, Maya dies by urn.


Vengeance from beyond the grave?

:ami: I am so damn sick of you breaking my urn every time you get a craving for American beer! YOU DIE NOW!

:maya-shock: EEEEEEEK!


Or, they could kill her by blunt trauma, a la Cindy Stone, Mia Fey, and Shadi Smith ( to name a few).
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Okay, I love you now RBJ :edgy:

For some reason thinking about 'death by urn' made me think of 'death by boot'. That would be a pretty epic final case.
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And maybe that urn could break forever too. It was broke what, three times, at least? Or maybe it becomes a jar like 1-5's.
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Marshmello wrote:
Okay, I love you now RBJ :edgy:

For some reason thinking about 'death by urn' made me think of 'death by boot'. That would be a pretty epic final case.

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YOU AREN'T SAYING WHAT I THINK YOU'RE SAYING!
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What do we do if the final case of GS5 isn't named Turnabout Nightmare?
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Um maybe riot naw I'm kidding maybe GS6 then?
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IMO, Turnabout Nightmare (or Nightmares) would seem like a case that turns out to be a dream...would this be an idea?
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Marshmello wrote:
YOU AREN'T SAYING WHAT I THINK YOU'RE SAYING!

...What did you think I was saying?... Before you answer, it wasn't anything perverted...
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root_beer_junkie wrote:
Marshmello wrote:
Okay, I love you now RBJ :edgy:

For some reason thinking about 'death by urn' made me think of 'death by boot'. That would be a pretty epic final case.

YAY! Someone loves me! :bellboy: My mommy loves me...
Marshmello wrote:
YOU AREN'T SAYING WHAT I THINK YOU'RE SAYING!

...What did you think I was saying?... Before you answer, it wasn't anything perverted...

I said that I loved you and you said that your Mommy loved you. Think about it.

And I think that having Turnabout Nightmare actually be a dream would be way too cliche. Maybe they could fit in prophetic dreams or something... that might work.
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Tamagon wrote:
Only one thing can justify the death of Phoenix.

If the murder weapon was a stepladder.


Part of the contradictions/solving the case, has to be it doing something only a stepladder can and a regular ladder can't.
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:shoe: :testimony: The ladder was leaning against the wall, when the defendant knocked it over, causing the victim to fall to his death!
:odo-objection: :objection: Stepladders don't lean up against walls! They're to cool to be knocked over!
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Marshmello wrote:
root_beer_junkie wrote:
Marshmello wrote:
Okay, I love you now RBJ :edgy:

For some reason thinking about 'death by urn' made me think of 'death by boot'. That would be a pretty epic final case.

YAY! Someone loves me! :bellboy: My mommy loves me...
Marshmello wrote:
YOU AREN'T SAYING WHAT I THINK YOU'RE SAYING!

...What did you think I was saying?... Before you answer, it wasn't anything perverted...

I said that I loved you and you said that your Mommy loved you. Think about it.

And I think that having Turnabout Nightmare actually be a dream would be way too cliche. Maybe they could fit in prophetic dreams or something... that might work.


How about...:

The night before an important case, Apollo stays up late doing something, but goes to sleep at 5:00 AM and dreams about the case, and what happens. He wakes up in the final moments of the case and sees that he could just make it to the courthouse in time.

Then, Apollo uses his dream knowledge to take the case down easily.
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Marshmello wrote:
root_beer_junkie wrote:
Marshmello wrote:
Okay, I love you now RBJ :edgy:

For some reason thinking about 'death by urn' made me think of 'death by boot'. That would be a pretty epic final case.

YAY! Someone loves me! :bellboy: My mommy loves me...
Marshmello wrote:
YOU AREN'T SAYING WHAT I THINK YOU'RE SAYING!

...What did you think I was saying?... Before you answer, it wasn't anything perverted...

I said that I loved you and you said that your Mommy loved you. Think about it.

And I think that having Turnabout Nightmare actually be a dream would be way too cliche. Maybe they could fit in prophetic dreams or something... that might work.

...But I was just kidding. Again. You really need to stop taking things so literally. :welly:
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All of these ideas sound so interesting! Though, having Phoenix disappear sounds like a good idea -- it's a chance to revisit old characters from the past 3 games! Especially Maya and Pearls. It'd give them an idea to see how they are and what they had been doing prior those years. :maya:

I don't know it's just a suggestion... :yuusaku:
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This is a very intriguing topic, I must admit. Although I wish I could add to the conversation in some insightful manner, I fear I cannot, and therefore I will make one point: This is an extremely unlikely possibility.

I've been known to be slightly cynical on some matters, and corporations are in no way exempt. Capcom probably cares about the money gained from production of these games, and this possibility would be detrimental to their cash flow. After all, if Phoenix were to die, a large fan base would be lost immediately. The same goes for if he murders someone or, say, forges to get an incorrect "Not Guilty" verdict, or something among those lines.

Therefore, Capcom would not do it.

I know, of course, that this is purely a conversation, and quite interesting, too. I personally believe that, although the possibilities raised by this hypothetical situation show promise, the situation would have to follow this criteria to still be one of the Ace Attorney cases we know and love:

1. Phoenix Wright could not fully die. Then he would just be...well...Blackbird Wright.
2. The effects from whatever Phoenix has done could not be life-scarring (because we all know how quickly everyone gets over these cases!)
3. His moral code could not be too thoroughly compromised.
4. If he disappears, like Edgeworth, one airplane scene might be nice.
5. If Phoenix Wright does indeed come back from the dead, so to speak...

Apollo would have to punch him in the face.

Hard.

Anyways. I might not even be talking about what everyone else is anymore C=
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5. If Phoenix Wright does indeed come back from the dead, so to speak...

Apollo would have to punch him in the face.

Hard.

This.

Well... most of your post, but mostly this :-P

There are two distinct impossibilities here. Capcom killing off Phoenix is one, but the other impossibility is that nothing dramatic happens concerning him in the final case. Apollo or not, the Ace Attorney games are central to everything that Phoenix does. The series at its heart is still about Phoenix Wright, and Capcom would mar that and lose points with fans by not including him as the key player in an intense case.
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