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I'm wondering whether there will be a new prosecutor when GS5 comes round because at the end of AJ Klavier said that:

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The Gavinners were splitting


Of course, he could still be a prosecutor I guess, maybe he'd be a solo rock star?
I'm not sure if I want to see a legitimately evil prosecutor or a "nice" one a la Klavier. I liked Klavier, he was a cool character but he wasnt as badass as say, Godot and he had no real reason to win against Apollo if that makes sense.
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Well the tradition is for a new one every game, so......

Klavier was actually a Prosecutor with good reason to be carefull with Apollo. Apollo pinned the crime on his brother (who was also Apollo's mentor) while defending a (in his mind) forger, then Apollo teamed up with said "forger".
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I'm not sure if I want to see a legitimately evil prosecutor or a "nice" one a la Klavier.


Except for the fact that since he's a good prosecutor, he made the game super-easy by babying you through almost every case :sadshoe:

I really hope we see as little of Klavier as possible in GS5, 'cause he was a really bad character :yuusaku: (absolutely no character flaws.)
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Personally, if we do see the return of Klavier, I hope they'll explore a bit of his stuffy perfectionist side that came up briefly in 4-3. It would be cool to see more dimensions to his character. We just need to put him under enough pressure I think. Maybe make him a defendant?
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Hmm. How about...

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Kristoph gets murdered while in prison. Klavier was the only one confirmed to have been in his cell for the hour prior to his death, and is arrested.


Two birds, one stone, really. :uramidn:
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Aussenseiter wrote:
Hmm. How about...

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Kristoph gets murdered while in prison. Klavier was the only one confirmed to have been in his cell for the hour prior to his death, and is arrested.


Two birds, one stone, really. :uramidn:


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But wait, if they were visiting, wouldn't Kristoph have been brought up to the Detention center viewport-thingy.

I always thought the reason Phoenix even got down there was because he tricked/bribed the guard. But maybe the detention center and the jail are two different shticks.

Oh! I know! The power does out and the cameras are temporarily offline during the murder itself. And while :kyouya: Claims not to have been there (he was leaving/went to the bathroom?), there's nothing supporting that.


Having prosecutors being defendants is always fun.
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Untaken Fingerprint wrote:
Aussenseiter wrote:
Hmm. How about...

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Kristoph gets murdered while in prison. Klavier was the only one confirmed to have been in his cell for the hour prior to his death, and is arrested.


Two birds, one stone, really. :uramidn:


Spoiler:
But wait, if they were visiting, wouldn't Kristoph have been brought up to the Detention center viewport-thingy.

I always thought the reason Phoenix even got down there was because he tricked/bribed the guard. But maybe the detention center and the jail are two different shticks.

Oh! I know! The power goes out and the cameras are temporarily offline during the murder itself. And while :kyouya: Claims not to have been there (he was leaving/went to the bathroom?), there's nothing supporting that.


Having prosecutors being defendants is always fun.

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Personally, if we do see the return of Klavier, I hope they'll explore a bit of his stuffy perfectionist side that came up briefly in 4-3. It would be cool to see more dimensions to his character. We just need to put him under enough pressure I think. Maybe make him a defendant?


I love that idea - thats great!
I agree Klavier babyed you, as he was a "good" man but I don't want someone a 1 dimensional evil person back, it wasnt as if Fran was actually EVIL, even in JFA but she was very annoying IMO.
Nothing wrong with good prosecutors. I think because Klavier was a rock star, that was why he was so personable. If he wasnt nice, people wouldnt buy the Gavinners songs :D
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I think Klavier will come back, but there may be another prosecutor...
what if it's Key Girl from GK??????

Personally, I would not miss Klavier if we never saw him again, but that's just me.
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grim_tales wrote:
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Personally, if we do see the return of Klavier, I hope they'll explore a bit of his stuffy perfectionist side that came up briefly in 4-3. It would be cool to see more dimensions to his character. We just need to put him under enough pressure I think. Maybe make him a defendant?


I love that idea - thats great!

Nothing wrong with good prosecutors. I think because Klavier was a rock star, that was why he was so personable. If he wasnt nice, people wouldnt buy the Gavinners songs :D


The other side of that is, of course, that he has a very good stage presence and can keep his cool in court because he's a performer, that's just how he operates.

It took a Guitar catching on fire while he was holding it to really shake him up. You'd have to really get him personally involved in the case (i.e. Either make him the defendant or have known the victim for a long time) to get him to really go after you in court with full force.
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Aussenseiter wrote:
Hmm. How about...

Spoiler:
Kristoph gets murdered while in prison. Klavier was the only one confirmed to have been in his cell for the hour prior to his death, and is arrested.


Two birds, one stone, really. :uramidn:


Would Klavier be guilty?
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Superninfreak wrote:
Aussenseiter wrote:
Hmm. How about...

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Kristoph gets murdered while in prison. Klavier was the only one confirmed to have been in his cell for the hour prior to his death, and is arrested.


Two birds, one stone, really. :uramidn:


Would Klavier be guilty?


How about Apollo is too busy with [insert something here] to defend, so Klavier gets Payne (who recently switched sides of the law) as a defense attorney, loses, and is executed. (Or, alternatively, Phoenix becomes a defense attorney again, defends Klavier, and purposefully loses so Klavier is executed. That shows the Gavins for taking away his badge!)

Ah... now that's the stuff dreams are made of.... :will:
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GS5 needs an evil prosecutor to give some challenge to the noob Apollo.

In GS4 there were too few prosecutor's anyway.

GS1: Payne, Edgeworth and Manfred = 3
GS2: Payne, Edgeworth and Franziska = 3
GS3: Payne, Edgeworth, Franziska and Godot = 4
GS4: Payne and Klavier = 2
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Bad Player wrote:
Superninfreak wrote:
Aussenseiter wrote:
Hmm. How about...

Spoiler:
Kristoph gets murdered while in prison. Klavier was the only one confirmed to have been in his cell for the hour prior to his death, and is arrested.


Two birds, one stone, really. :uramidn:


Would Klavier be guilty?


How about Apollo is too busy with [insert something here] to defend, so Klavier gets Payne (who recently switched sides of the law) as a defense attorney, loses, and is executed. (Or, alternatively, Phoenix becomes a defense attorney again, defends Klavier, and purposefully loses so Klavier is executed. That shows the Gavins for taking away his badge!)

Ah... now that's the stuff dreams are made of.... :will:


..I-I'm sorry, that's just so beautiful, I-I think I have something in my eye *snif*.
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We need a Prosecutor kinda like Diego, personality wise. Cocky, but not emotionally dead.

And if Nick throws a case, he'd be disbarred again. And be sent to prison.

Besides, if Nick did that, then he's no better than the criminals he helped put away.

Plus, Klavi would haunt him and drive him to suicide.
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First of all, Phoenix doesn't have to make it look like he threw the case :hobohodo:

Second of all, Klavier couldn't do that 'cause he'd be too busy being chased by rabid fangirls in (stu) heaven.
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FdrlPrsctrTails wrote:
We need a Prosecutor kinda like Diego, personality wise. Cocky, but not emotionally dead.

And if Nick throws a case, he'd be disbarred again. And be sent to prison.

Besides, if Nick did that, then he's no better than the criminals he helped put away.

Plus, Klavi would haunt him and drive him to suicide.


And why didn't he get disbarred for 2-4? What if he knew Klavier did it?

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First of all, Phoenix doesn't have to make it look like he threw the case :hobohodo:

Second of all, Klavier couldn't do that 'cause he'd be too busy being chased by rabid fangirls in (stu) heaven.


What does stu mean?
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Superninfreak wrote:
FdrlPrsctrTails wrote:
We need a Prosecutor kinda like Diego, personality wise. Cocky, but not emotionally dead.

And if Nick throws a case, he'd be disbarred again. And be sent to prison.

Besides, if Nick did that, then he's no better than the criminals he helped put away.

Plus, Klavi would haunt him and drive him to suicide.


And why didn't he get disbarred for 2-4? What if he knew Klavier did it?


The minute an Attorney can prove his client innocent beyond a reasonable doubt, or, if he has knowledge BEFOREHAND, he is required to report such instances.

Without the Canon of Ethics, the law would fall apart.

Plus, Nick isn't that cruel. He'd never do what Manfred did to people.

Also, to get back on topic... I think the new Prosecutor will be someone Apollo knows, but is unknown to us.
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FdrlPrsctrTails wrote:
And if Nick throws a case, he'd be disbarred again. And be sent to prison.


He wasn't dis-barred for defending Maggey so badly in the first trial concerning Gen Elg's murder (OK, so it wasn't him, but everybody thought it was him!), so why would he get dis-barred for half-heartedly defending Klavier?

Anyway, I want to see Apollo get owned by :ka-whip:, really badly.
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Enough with the Klavi bashing. Some of us like the guy.

I'd like to see twins as Prosecutors.
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FdrlPrsctrTails wrote:
I'd like to see twins as Prosecutors.


That sounds a bit odd. Unless you mean... siamese twins? :/
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I'd like to see twins as Prosecutors.


That sounds a bit odd. Unless you mean... siamese twins? :/


No, I mean two seperate people, they're just twins.
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I know. But in the Ace Attorney world, it seems a bit odd for two people being the prosecution. Sure we had Phoenix/Maya, Phoenix/Maggey, Mia/Diego etc, but they were merely co-council.
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FdrlPrsctrTails wrote:
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FdrlPrsctrTails wrote:
I'd like to see twins as Prosecutors.


That sounds a bit odd. Unless you mean... siamese twins? :/


No, I mean two seperate people, they're just twins.


Would they both be in court at the same time? So you are going against 2 at once?
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Would they both be in court at the same time? So you are going against 2 at once?


That would be cool for a final case. But you face them seperately at first.

I've been watching too much Host Club.
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I've been watching too much Host Club.


I KNEW IT!!!

Frankly, I'd prefer only one person. And for the record, there is a likely chance that there will be a new prosecutor. It's like, tradition.
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How about a REALLY angry foriegner?

Someone like "The Soup Nazi" from Seinfeld.
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FdrlPrsctrTails wrote:
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Would they both be in court at the same time? So you are going against 2 at once?


That would be cool for a final case. But you face them seperately at first.

I've been watching too much Host Club.


It would be cool if they said the same things at the same time, like they were one entity.
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Maybe the new prosecutor would be someone like Apollo's father?
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Maybe the new prosecutor would be someone like Apollo's father?


Spoiler:
He's dead, so no!
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Maybe the new prosecutor would be someone like Apollo's father?


Spoiler:
He's dead, so no!

Spoiler:
So was his mother, they thought.

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I think there has to be a new prosecutor. I know Klavier should still be in the area and prosecuting, and that he said he would look forward to meeting Apollo again in court, but why change a habit of four games? I think Klavier will face off against Apollo again at some point, but I doubt that he will be a main prosecutor.
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Maybe the new prosecutor would be someone like Apollo's father?


Spoiler:
He's dead, so no!


Spoiler: JFA
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It would be cool if they said the same things at the same time, like they were one entity.


Yes, that would actually be pretty cool.


I think.
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The name box would look pretty wierd, tho o.o
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I'm not sure if I want to see a legitimately evil prosecutor or a "nice" one a la Klavier.


Except for the fact that since he's a good prosecutor, he made the game super-easy by babying you through almost every case :sadshoe:

I really hope we see as little of Klavier as possible in GS5, 'cause he was a really bad character :yuusaku: (absolutely no character flaws.)


Haha yeah, I'd like to see a little bit more Godot-Franziska crossover that won't baby you in the courtroom. There should be a hint of grudge, too.
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There will most likely be a new prosecutor, much like every other main game in the series. That doesn't mean we won't see Klavier at all thereafter, of course, if Edgeworth and Franziska are anything to go by.


Szabu wrote:
GS5 needs an evil prosecutor to give some challenge to the noob Apollo.

In GS4 there were too few prosecutor's anyway.

GS1: Payne, Edgeworth and Manfred = 3
GS2: Payne, Edgeworth and Franziska = 3
GS3: Payne, Edgeworth, Franziska and Godot = 4
GS4: Payne and Klavier = 2

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You forgot Young Klavier during the flashback case. He wasn't strictly a different attorney, but it was a different experience than the rest of the game, much like the others.

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WOAH! I really like the two prosecutors at once idea. We've never actually had a situation where there was a team on the prosecutor's side... I think that could be pretty interesting (twins or no. XD)
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I like the idea of a prosecution team. Not sure how it would work, but it would make for some great character interaction, especially if they started disagreeing about something.
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What if Phoenix gets reinstated but decides to work as a prosecutor? That could be interesting, and it would be a great way for them to bring Edgeworth back (i.e. Phoenix goes to him for advice).
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