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Discuss this idea.

I personally think it'd be great. It'd make for a very great final court showdown, as you'd have to prove his guilt without making it so obvious that he just ends the case then and there
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Yeah, I just can't see it. He's too... nice.

That, and you'd have the whole fanbase up in arms. This isn't Bones, you know. (Cookie for the reference)
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Nah, it wouldn't work. While not amazingly clever, he'd know when you're onto him, and completely dis-regard anything you were saying. Y'know, striking everything from the record and what not.
Besides, he's such a lovable character!! Udgey would never become a villain :3
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Who says Udgey has to be the evil judge?
GS5 could have a new judge, maybe. Make people wonder where Udgey went. Then in the last case, BAM! Udgey's the defendant!
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I think the old GS1-3 Judge is trapped in the painting. Then he escapes, and is accused of murdering the GS4 Judge.
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Crazed Ninja wrote:
Who says Udgey has to be the evil judge?
GS5 could have a new judge, maybe. Make people wonder where Udgey went. Then in the last case, BAM! Udgey's the defendant!


Basically this xD

If there are 4 cases, the new judge would be the judge on the first and last case, Udgey will be judge on the 2nd case, and 3rd case is a toss-up. If there are 5 cases, it will start with the evil judge and alternate.
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While a Judge as the villian would be kind of a nice way to mix things up, because of the jury system, it wouldn't have the same impact it would have had on the previous games. With the old system, the Judge pretty much had complete control over the verdict. But now that the jurists decide, it would be less dramatic. It would still work, but just not as well. Then again, the jury is the only way you could win that trial, so that would have to be the climax, just like in GS4. Which would quite honestly suck.
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If they changed the Judge, wouldn't it be a bit obvious that it was to make the new one the killer? They'd have to try to provide a natural reason for the Judge to be different, like they did when introducing his brother.
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I've always wanted to see a case that involved the Judge and his brother outside of the bench. :godot:
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I've always wanted to see a case that involved the Judge and his brother outside of the bench.

Don't worry, you'll see one soon ^^

As for the judge as a villain... it could definitely work, and there is a chance the final courtroom battle will be epic.
However, it would be a bit of an untwist as Karma logic is every AA fan's first lead.
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Mr. X wrote:
While a Judge as the villian would be kind of a nice way to mix things up, because of the jury system, it wouldn't have the same impact it would have had on the previous games. With the old system, the Judge pretty much had complete control over the verdict. But now that the jurists decide, it would be less dramatic. It would still work, but just not as well. Then again, the jury is the only way you could win that trial, so that would have to be the climax, just like in GS4. Which would quite honestly suck.


The jury just decides the verdict. The judge still runs the trial and everything. So it would still work out.
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Maybe the Brudgey can be the judge on the trial of Udgey? (or vise-versa)

I've always wanted to see something like this. It would be very interesting, and give us another victim of the Gant Effect. :gant:

If they could combine that with a case where you play as both Apollo and Phoenix, it'd be the best case yet. :godot:
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Maybe the Brudgey can be the judge on the trial of Udgey? (or vise-versa)


The only thing is that the judge would be the real killer, not the defendant.


Plus, Udgy can't be the defendant, 'cause then we'd find out his name! D:
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Judge would be too easy to break down.

I mean, he suffers a break down in 1-5 before realizing he's not on trial, and in JFA, he says I've never even heard of "gossip land" when he was asked if he was reading tabloids, to which phoenix comments that if the Judge was a witness, he'd do all of phoenix's work for him, and in 3-5 the Judge admits his deductions are almost never correct.
In other words, the judge wouldn't be intelleigent enough to disprove the evidence against him.
And if it were a different judge, it would be too obvious.
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Udgy as a defendant? Then they would have to make a new judge, he could be a murderer.
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Udgy as a villian? Oh no, he's so loveable and clueless.

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I think the idea was to have a judge as a villain, but not necessarily udgey.
Udgey would be better as a defendant (which, by the way, is precisely what happens in my fancase =)
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Plus, Udgy can't be the defendant, 'cause then we'd find out his name! D:
Thus, spoiling the mystery surrounding him.

Phoenix_Apollo wrote:
Maybe the Brudgey can be the judge on the trial of Udgey? (or vise-versa)


Conflict of interest, anyone? (Of course, I could say the same about the end of 4-4)
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I found a name for Udgey in my fancase, but it's a semi-spoiler. I think you're going to like it :p

I love the idea of Brudgey judging Udgey, by the way.
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Discuss this idea.

I personally think it'd be great. It'd make for a very great final court showdown, as you'd have to prove his guilt without making it so obvious that he just ends the case then and there


D8 thats actually a really interesting idea
but i dont think it should be the regular judge ;__;! he couldnt be evil! maybe it could be the judges brother! :udgy: dunt dunt daaa
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I don't think it would work, I know what you mean by saying that you don't use Udgey, and use a different judge, but then wouldn't it be painfully obvious?

And also, the judge would just bang his hammer and say

'GUILTY!'

before you even did the cross examination... :oops:
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I don't think it would work, I know what you mean by saying that you don't use Udgey, and use a different judge, but then wouldn't it be painfully obvious?

And also, the judge would just bang his hammer and say

'GUILTY!'

before you even did the cross examination... :oops:


1. The evil judge's first appearance would not be in this case. This way his character is build up, and he's important; he's not just thrown in for the twist.
2. Jurist System means he can't just do that.
3. Even if he could, then trial then goes to a higher court. When the higher court sees that the record for the court is "Court is now in session for the trial of [name]. Guilty." they're going to know something is up :nick:
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Gravy On Toast wrote:
I don't think it would work, I know what you mean by saying that you don't use Udgey, and use a different judge, but then wouldn't it be painfully obvious?

And also, the judge would just bang his hammer and say

'GUILTY!'

before you even did the cross examination... :oops:


1. The evil judge's first appearance would not be in this case. This way his character is build up, and he's important; he's not just thrown in for the twist.
2. Jurist System means he can't just do that.
3. Even if he could, then trial then goes to a higher court. When the higher court sees that the record for the court is "Court is now in session for the trial of [name]. Guilty." they're going to know something is up :nick:


Not to mention, Udgey could be the defendent in the case, giving the excuse for why they need a new judge.
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As mentioned above,
I reckon :udgy: should be the defendant of the second final case,
I don't know, mabye he 'killed' someone at a Judges conference in a drunken fit of rage.
Supposedly.
with the presiding 'new' judge being the guilty party.
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As mentioned above,
I reckon :udgy: should be the defendant of the second final case,
I don't know, mabye he 'killed' someone at a Judges conference in a drunken fit of rage.

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Why can i see that happening so clearly?
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Bad Player wrote:
Gravy On Toast wrote:
I don't think it would work, I know what you mean by saying that you don't use Udgey, and use a different judge, but then wouldn't it be painfully obvious?

And also, the judge would just bang his hammer and say

'GUILTY!'

before you even did the cross examination... :oops:


1. The evil judge's first appearance would not be in this case. This way his character is build up, and he's important; he's not just thrown in for the twist.
2. Jurist System means he can't just do that.
3. Even if he could, then trial then goes to a higher court. When the higher court sees that the record for the court is "Court is now in session for the trial of [name]. Guilty." they're going to know something is up :nick:



Bad Player, when has there ever been a time in the series where the characters pay attention to logic? When there's something outright obvious or something that is common knowledge, they ignore that and just arrest some person who is obviously innocent.
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Now THAT would be a twist. Given that the new Jurist System is in play, he'd be powerless to stop it. And it also tells us to look under the mask.

Udgey may be a pedo under his senility. We don't know for certain.
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Spoiler: 2-3,I believe
The end will go like this:
Prosecutor: Where is the murder weapon?
A. At the scene of the crime B. The Judge's Bench C. The Witness stand
Defense: Obviously, the Judge's bench!

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What plausible excuses can we find to remove the regular judge for a case? If a really good justification isn't given, then it would be obvious that he's the killer.
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What plausible excuses can we find to remove the regular judge for a case? If a really good justification isn't given, then it would be obvious that he's the killer.


Spoiler: In 3-5...
Edgeworth was powerful enough that when he subbed in for Phoenix, he was able to request that Brudgey take over. (For that day only, no less, which seems almost impossibly illogical.) A similar thing could be done here, where the Chief Justice takes a particular interest in a case and pulls rank to have it assigned to his docket.


Aside from the spoilery explanation, if the filler cases were planned out, we could sub in a new judge. Case 5-2, Brudgey is the victim, and Udgey has to recuse himself in favor of Evil Udgey. We find the suspect Not Guilty, but for a change, don't find the real killer. Case 5-4, Udgey is the suspect, Evil Udgey the judge and killer, and off we go.
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actually, it hink if the judge were to ever be convicted of a crime, it would be kinda funny to see him suffer.....no offense anyone! :shoe: meow!
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Udgey's cousin always seemed a bit dodgy to me.

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oh god the creepy judge who went "eh?" he is canadian. my friend had to tell me that. :sadshoe: i didn't know at first...
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The judge? A villian? Possibly guilty of murdurer?

Why the heck not? :haha:
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hey! everbody else is doing it! :godot:
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I just hope they do change the damn judge soon. old man udgey is fine (though ridiculously indecisive) but having a new judge with a completely different character would make things so much more interesting in court. It won't happen though -_-
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Plus, Udgy can't be the defendant, 'cause then we'd find out his name! D:

Hmmmm,
:bro: Please state your name and occupation for the record.
:udgy: Umm, The Judge, and ummmm, I'm a judge
:edgeworth: This is riduculous! Give us your real name!!
:udgy: Harry Pickle
:edgeworth: What?
:udgy: Harry Pickle
:phoenix: Huh?
:udgy: HARRY PICKLE!!
:edgeworth: ......
:phoenix: .......
:bro: ...... Eh?
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Cant even imagine good ol Udgey as a murderer. I dont think he could figure out how to use a weapon frankly...
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Frankly, the only thing I can see da judge on trial for is driving unsafely. Anything else just seems out of character.
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