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Not sure if it's the right place for this topic, but...

I was wondering... phoenix took 14 cases in 3 years, so that's about 4-5 cases / year.
That really isn't too much, and there is a lot of time between the cases, especially during TaT.

I was wondering if they could fill in these gaps like they already did once with case 1-5.
Like Turnabout in the Wind, I can really see it happening just about any time after 2-2 and 3-2. Especially since the time gap between 2-4 and 3-2 is huge, why couldn't it go there?

Yeah, these chapters can't be too significant ones since the main story can't be changed, but I'd be really happy with a game like this.
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Yeah.
For example, in 3-3 Phoenix says,
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"But I didn't take a poisoning case in december"
Thus, he must have taken a case, just not a poisoning one.

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That's true!
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It's certainly implied he's taken a case but we dont know what sort, thus making the idea that someone impersonated him even sillier. This isnt really persued fully IMO.

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Hmm.. it would be hard not to mess with canon. And they couldn't do much significant.

But a prequel case with Mia and Legal Assistant Phoenix as her sidekick = DO WANT.

I still think they could potentially have Phoenix and Maya in the theoretical GK2. Have them investigate something.. anything. There's kind of an investigation phase...
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Yes, but even if it had like 6-7 small (1-2 day) cases which aren't that significant to the main story (but they could also fill in some holes, like the final evidence in you-know-which-case), I'd buy it.
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Yes, but even if it had like 6-7 small (1-2 day) cases which aren't that significant to the main story (but they could also fill in some holes, like the final evidence in you-know-which-case), I'd buy it.


Yup.

I'd love they make a game like that.

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But a prequel case with Mia and Legal Assistant Phoenix as her sidekick = DO WANT.


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Yeah.
For example, in 3-3 Phoenix says,
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"But I didn't take a poisoning case in december"
Thus, he must have taken a case, just not a poisoning one.


Not necessarily. He was just being specific. :yuusaku:

I wouldn't want a whole game of "Turnabout in the Wind" type cases. What would be the point when they have no effect on the main story? It'd feel like a game without a climax.

Fan cases that you know aren't supposed to affect the canon is one thing. But I'd hate to see the series officially be crammed with filler. Like Naruto. :eh?:
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when i play them games the first time over, the take me couple of days. but if i replay it then i see how short it takes...and i want more cases...so heres a lesson for all of youse. dont replay!!! :yogi:
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There's absolutely no reason why non-cannon-relevant cases have to be simple fillers. The first three games were about less than ten recurring characters: :phoenix: :edgeworth: :maya: :pearl: :franny: :godot: :chinami: :mia: . Why can't there be other characters, other than those, whose stories are fleshed out across multiple cases between the current ones? I could imagine one about a mass-murderer who frames somebody in each of the 3 to 5 murders he commits. But across these cases, the question would linger as to whether one person even commit all these simmilar murders. It's a plot idea that works across multiple cases that can be close together, and the closest the games have come to it are in 3-2, 3-5 and 4-4:
Spoiler: Those cases
When Ron was actually the thief, Godot as opposed to Dahlia was the villain, and when Krissi became the villain out of nowhere.
It would slightly alter the current pattern of catching the right guy at the end of each case, but would be far more suspenseful. And if it didn't personally involve the already established characters I listed above, it wouldn't affect the cannon, and you could still care about the recurring characters between each new case!
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I'm going to go with the theory that Phoenix has taken cases in between the ones we see in the games, but they just aren't very interesting, either because the defendant was guilty and the the prosecution was right from the beginning, or it was a boring, straight forward killing.
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Herr X wrote:
I'm going to go with the theory that Phoenix has taken cases in between the ones we see in the games, but they just aren't very interesting, either because the defendant was guilty and the the prosecution was right from the beginning, or it was a boring, straight forward killing.

Spoiler: Farewell my Turnabout
Maybe not guilty clients, because it does say he really only lost 2-4.
...Doesn't it?

They very well may have been just civil cases and stuff. (elder law, personal injuy lawsuits, divorce, etc.)
I can see it now:
Phoenix Wright: Ace Civil Defense Attorney.

Ok, maybe not.
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Yeah, Franziska shouted at Phoenix at the end of 2-4 that his "perfect record" has been ruined, so it's easy to assume he hasen't lost a case since then.

Personally I don't think it'd be too much of a stretch to do a few filler games that take place between the cases of the PW trilogy. I can't imagine Phoenix was able to keep up the rent and afford to treat Maya to endless food, when he was only taking 3-4 cases a year, with some being charity cases. It would make the fans happy to have more cases to play starring their favorite characters, Capcom could make gobs more cash, and maybe it'll inspire the fandom to make more fanfics besides yaoi, and wangst stuff.
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If they went back to making cases for Phoenix, that would be like playing Soul Reaver and then playing Legacy of Kain: You already know what happens at the end so the story doesn't even matter.
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Again, they already did that in 1-5.
It's not like it had so much effect on the rest of the game.
Yes, it introduces Ema, but from Apollo's prospective, it really doesn't matter.
Okay, it gives a better reason for Edgeworth to leave, but that's it.
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i tend to agree

more cases is always good, and they would fill out the story very well

plus, revisiting old characters would be great. it could be a spinoff series
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Queepo50001 wrote:
There's absolutely no reason why non-cannon-relevant cases have to be simple fillers. The first three games were about less than ten recurring characters: :phoenix: :edgeworth: :maya: :pearl: :franny: :godot: :chinami: :mia: .


What about :gumshoe: and :udgy:? :yuusaku:

As for how he gets by given that he's taken very few cases, it is easy explainable: he's a member of an illegal, underground poker club (which partly explains why he's so good at playing poker in AJ).
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I wasn't really reading everything when I scrolled down here to type, but I keep hearing from a few people on Yahoo! that there should be another game anyway.

But notice that like, in GS4, Maya disappeared, and a few other characters (that we really miss!).

I hope they bring them back in this "next game", because I'll be ticked if they don't at least reference them!
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Szabu wrote:
Again, they already did that in 1-5.
It's not like it had so much effect on the rest of the game.

That's one case, not an entire game.
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What about :gumshoe: and :udgy:? :yuusaku:

:udgy: has no real part of the story, he's just always present. The only time when his personal life has an effect on a case is in 4-3, which had just four or so lines that tipped you off as to the motive. Even when his brother came in you never learned about his family or personal life besides just one line about his brother.
:eh?: only had relevance when it came to his connection to Edgeworth (2-3, 2-4) and Magey (3-3). That's really not enough for him to be irreplaceable in the story. Most of the time, while he does have personality, he remains personally uninvolved in the cases, and re-introducing :edgeworth: and :maggy: hardly makes him seem important as a seperate character. Never does a case ever revolve around him, like the characters I listed.
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"Turnabout in the Wind"

New case confirmed for the next game: Murder on a wind farm (windmill murder).
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:eh?: only had relevance when it came to his connection to Edgeworth (2-3, 2-4) and Magey (3-3). That's really not enough for him to be irreplaceable in the story. Most of the time, while he does have personality, he remains personally uninvolved in the cases, and re-introducing :edgeworth: and :maggy: hardly makes him seem important as a seperate character. Never does a case ever revolve around him, like the characters I listed.


Gumshoe shows up in 12 cases (13 if you count 4-4), which is more than Maya, Franziska, Godot, and Edgeworth. Only Mia and Phoenix himself rival him as having most apperances. So even if he hasn't had a case revolve around him (though I would argue that 3-3 was even more about him than it was Maggey), he has a constant presence in the games. And he does take a personal involvement in 1-4, where he's desperately trying to help Edgeworth; 1-5 where he loses his job in the process of helping Phoenix; 2-4 where he gets fired again and ends up "working" for Phoenix for a while. He even gets to play assistant in 3-5. So even if he's not quite as vital as some characters, he's definitely "recurring."

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Gumshoe shows up in 12 cases (13 if you count 4-4), which is more than Maya, Franziska, Godot, and Edgeworth. Only Mia and Phoenix himself rival him as having most apperances. So even if he hasn't had a case revolve around him (though I would argue that 3-3 was even more about him than it was Maggey), he has a constant presence in the games. And he does take a personal involvement in 1-4, where he's desperately trying to help Edgeworth; 1-5 where he loses his job in the process of helping Phoenix; 2-4 where he gets fired again and ends up "working" for Phoenix for a while. He even gets to play assistant in 3-5. So even if he's not quite as vital as some characters, he's definitely "recurring."

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i was going to say something like this but you did for me
thanks croik~

also don't forget oldbag; she shows up in the first three games and is definitely a "recurring character"
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Much as I want to see more of Phoenix and Maya, I don't think they should stuff the game 1-3 timeline with more filler, partly because it would probably end up contradicting what's already there, partly because we already have adequate plot resolution on what happened during the trilogy.
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If they went back to making cases for Phoenix, that would be like playing Soul Reaver and then playing Legacy of Kain: You already know what happens at the end so the story doesn't even matter.

And this. We already know he's going to be disbarred ;_; The timeline which would be more interesting re. Phoenix and Maya (and Edgeworth, but we're getting GK) is after 3-5.
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plus, revisiting old characters would be great. it could be a spinoff series

And a spinoff is where to place them, if we supposedly want a completely Apollo-centric GS5. The lack of Phoenix being able to act as defense attorney for 7 years is a problem, but I don't see why he can't help Edgeworth investigate something or use the GK game mechanics.
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And a spinoff is where to place them, if we supposedly want a completely Apollo-centric GS5. The lack of Phoenix being able to act as defense attorney for 7 years is a problem, but I don't see why he can't help Edgeworth investigate something or use the GK game mechanics.


I agree that I would much rather see Phoenix as an unofficial Edgeworth sidekick, helping to solve crimes from the sidelines (and not bound by the law, ha ha ha) than to see him trying extra cases that have no hope of impacting the main plot. When they added 1-5 they already contradicted series details, so I don't have much faith that they'd be able to do it again without the same results.

But then, I always prefer for canon to move forward than to move back. It's so much easier on my timeline ;_;
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That sounds more like a sequel to Gyakuten Kenji than an Ace Attorney game.
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If they went back to making cases for Phoenix, that would be like playing Soul Reaver and then playing Legacy of Kain: You already know what happens at the end so the story doesn't even matter.
T&T was released months after AJ here. I still enjoyed it. The only time I felt like you say was when I reached the ending of 3-5 and that was only because I knew the happy ending only lasted for two months.
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T&T was released months after AJ here. I still enjoyed it. The only time I felt like you say was when I reached the ending of 3-5 and that was only because I knew the happy ending only lasted for two months.

I cried when T&T ended. Just wanted to let ya know.
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also don't forget oldbag; she shows up in the first three games and is definitely a "recurring character"


Except I'm on 3-5 and haven't seen her yet (and somehow I don't think she murdered Elise). :pft:
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Pft.

What about Larry, though?

...Then again, how about NOT Larry.

That guy makes me want to kick a Klavier, man.
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Gozu wrote:
also don't forget oldbag; she shows up in the first three games and is definitely a "recurring character"


Except I'm on 3-5 and haven't seen her yet (and somehow I don't think she murdered Elise). :pft:


Not a spoiler, she gets a very small cameo in the ending.
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he shouldve had some cases. i mean during his 7 years of retirement he just went looking for clues and found them. i just hope he wont be takin those piano lessons instead of the bar exams :sadshoe: although i highly doubt it :franny:
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