Ace Attorney HD Collection

Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:52 am

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HD Collections are pretty popular these days.

What would you all think if Capcom released an Ace Attorney Collection (PW and AJ [probably not AAI, since they don't seem to like it]) for like the 3DS or something? With remastered music and updated visuals.

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Re: Ace Attorney HD Collection

Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:45 am

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I know there's probably not a lot of people who would support this idea, but I would actually love to see a HD version of the original PW trilogy.. that I would be able to play on a console! I know it's much more suitable on a portable system, but I'd rather play all of my games on a home console if I had the opportunity. That's the same reason why I prefer the Wiiware versions of the PW trilogy - it gives a more cinematic feel to the game, although it's not that pretty when it's being enlarged on a big screen. But yeah, I would want my Ace Attorney games in HD if it was on a big screen (not really necessary for a portable IMO)

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Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:31 pm

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I wouldn't be opposed to it, but what console would be ideal for it? 3DS? Vita? Wii?

...Wii U?

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Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:49 pm

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I think the original PC graphics for the first 3 games would look really good, but they could also add in more sprite frames to make the animation smoother.

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Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:17 pm

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Rov wrote:

I think the original PC graphics for the first 3 games would look really good, but they could also add in more sprite frames to make the animation smoother.

Or if it's not too much work give them the AJ/AAI-higher quality sprites.
Though I think an AA collection would have plenty of market value especially considering the rarity of some of the games on the street.

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Re: Ace Attorney HD Collection

Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:30 pm

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The PC sprites are better quality than AJ/AAI. It would be less work to rip them from that than it would to remake them in AJ/AAI quality, I would imagine. You'd only have to up-res one game. Well, unless the collection included both AAI games...

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Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:31 pm

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For the record, the high quality 'sprites' I posted were for the PROMOTION to the PC version of GS1-GS3. They were ports of the GBA version of the game. The in game sprites were less desirable then the DS version. And in fact the PC version didn't have GS1-5.

I don't know why people keep thinking the PC version had all the quality stuff in it. The animations were even broken for the promotion.

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Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:44 pm

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Rov wrote:

I think the original PC graphics for the first 3 games would look really good, but they could also add in more sprite frames to make the animation smoother.

I'm sure they already have those extra animation frames, in fact the AAI sprites I ripped from Capcom's AAI promotion videos, most characters had an extra blink frame unlike their DS sprite counterparts.

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Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:11 pm

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Darn, for a sec I thought capcom revealed an AA HD collection.
What I want is a Devil Survivor Overclocked-type remake with voice acting, uped graphics, and an extra case.

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Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:35 am

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Wooster wrote:

For the record, the high quality 'sprites' I posted [...]

WHERE?!

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Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:18 pm

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Yeah, I haven't seen these "High Quality" sprites either. Link please?

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Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:24 pm

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Enjoy. But let me reiterate, the PC version was no better then the GBA version in terms of sprites. The images I posted were to PROMOTE the PC version. Every time the PC version comes up there's confusion.

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Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:14 pm

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I don't know if they'd really go full-HD on us, but maybe GS1-3 with improved graphics for the 3DS on one cartridge...? (could be the 10th anniversary announcement?)

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Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:41 pm

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Wooster wrote:

http://forums.court-records.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17693

Enjoy. But let me reiterate, the PC version was no better then the GBA version in terms of sprites. The images I posted were to PROMOTE the PC version. Every time the PC version comes up there's confusion.

Those look great! Is there any reason those weren't used in-game?

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Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:52 pm

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A few. First, The GBA and DS can't handle full quality illustrations, and it's impractical on top of which. Even more powerful systems like the Wii (First hand in Trauma Center) don't use full quality art all the time. There's too much overhead in resizing and calculating the transparency (The latter being the real drain).

Second, the PC port was intended to make a quick buck. Capcom could do a quality port, or they could save all that money and just repackage the same game. Capcom chose the latter. And they kept choosing it, on the iPhone, the Wii, Verizon...

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Re: Ace Attorney HD Collection

Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:29 pm

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Wooster wrote:

I don't know why people keep thinking the PC version had all the quality stuff in it. The animations were even broken for the promotion.

Ah, my mistake.

But yeah, use those graphics in an HD remake. I think they'd probably have all the high-resolution images stored on file before they were turned into sprites. I wouldn't imagine it being all too difficult for the professionals to re-skin the game with high-res images.

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Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:11 pm

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Yes.... and no. You're on the right track. It's true that they do have some sort of engine that does what you're imagining, as evidenced by every TGS Court event. But some things aren't dealt with until they hit the sprites. Phoenix's sweat animation for instance. It's very very close, but obviously not 1:1.

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Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:05 pm

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Wooster wrote:

A few. First, The GBA and DS can't handle full quality illustrations, and it's impractical on top of which. Even more powerful systems like the Wii (First hand in Trauma Center) don't use full quality art all the time. There's too much overhead in resizing and calculating the transparency (The latter being the real drain).

I was talking about the PC version, actually. Should have clarified. Sorry.

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Second, the PC port was intended to make a quick buck. Capcom could do a quality port, or they could save all that money and just repackage the same game. Capcom chose the latter. And they kept choosing it, on the iPhone, the Wii, Verizon...

That makes sense, I guess (I'm wondering why they ported the GBA version instead of the DS version, but eh. Whatever floats Capcom's boat.)

Wait, if a collection were to be released the 3DS, wouldn't they kinda need to update the sprites to 3D models to take advantage of the 3D effect?

And what games would be on a collection, I wonder? :yuusaku:

GS1-3? GS1-4? GS1-4 and GK1-2?

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Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:17 pm

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As for why they used the GBA version, I've got two lines of suspect. First, the PC port might not have been done by Takumi's team (Thus while GS1-DS was being developed, another team was already at work porting the GBA version). Second, and I think this is more likely, Nintendo and Capcom might've signed some sort of contract. Something like X discount or promotion in exchange for exclusivity for X period of time.

As for a collection... I'm not sure. The GBA and DS's screen sizes and resolutions were comparable. So it was 'relatively' easy to port. I'm over simplifying, but it basically boiled down to crop less. Using the same stint on the 3DS won't fly. They might have to remaster the entire saga. And... considering Capcom and ports, I don't think that's likely at all. If there's going to be a collection, expect a quick and dirty port.

... and actually, such a collection would be appropriate for the upcoming 10th Court Date.

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Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:35 pm

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Yeah, a collection would be appropriate for the Court Date.....

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Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:23 am

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I just wish they'd released ports of (at the very least, some of) the games on the 'Droid market. I'd sure as hell buy them all.

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Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:55 am

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Shiki Tohno wrote:

I just wish they'd released ports of (at the very least, some of) the games on the 'Droid market. I'd sure as hell buy them all.

If the iOS ports were any indication, you're not missing much at all. The background and foreground sprites were scaled independent of each other. And there was a very noticeable lag between dragging your finger on the screen, and the cross hairs updating.

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Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:16 pm

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Not like I care about that much. Personally, what attracts me about the games is the content, not the graphics. Even if they were made with ASCII graphics I wouldn't care.

Plus, it's a hell of a lot more convenient to just carry them on your phone instead of having to carry a DS and all the game cartridges if I ever wanted to replay any of them at any given time.

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