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Blizdi - Ok I won't!

Scent - Thanks a lot! I know right, near enough five years ago I started it.

Warmijwilf - Thanks very much! :) I never would've thought all those years ago that my random derping around in PyWright would eventually turn into a critically acclaimed 3-case series. Yeah I love passionate game communities that keep a series alive, even if its parent company turn into douchebags and abandon or shun the game themselves.
Have you also considered playing Turnabout Substitution? It was probably one of the first -- if not THE first -- completed fancase. It's pretty rough around the edges but so much love went into it, as well as having a very characteristic atmosphere and choice in music, I'd definitely recommend it!
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so will part 2 be part of the same episode and you need the same save file or is it gonna be it's own episode?
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megamike15 wrote:
so will part 2 be part of the same episode and you need the same save file or is it gonna be it's own episode?

Same episode. Just like in the past, I'll provide a .txt file that explains how to continue from where Part 1 left off.
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Cardiovore wrote:
megamike15 wrote:
so will part 2 be part of the same episode and you need the same save file or is it gonna be it's own episode?

Same episode. Just like in the past, I'll provide a .txt file that explains how to continue from where Part 1 left off.


Wait...

Case 3 Part 2 is going to have 3 days of trials right? Is this the only case with 3 days? Because I forget if Haunted has 3 days... mostly because official Ace Attorney hasn't ballsed up and done another 3 day case lol
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Blizdi wrote:
Wait...

Case 3 Part 2 is going to have 3 days of trials right? Is this the only case with 3 days? Because I forget if Haunted has 3 days... mostly because official Ace Attorney hasn't ballsed up and done another 3 day case lol

Yeah the other two had only two days, which is the standard case length. The length of Turnabout of the Snow could be considered on par with Turnabout Succession overall.
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Blizdi wrote:
Cardiovore wrote:
megamike15 wrote:
so will part 2 be part of the same episode and you need the same save file or is it gonna be it's own episode?

Same episode. Just like in the past, I'll provide a .txt file that explains how to continue from where Part 1 left off.


Wait...

Case 3 Part 2 is going to have 3 days of trials right? Is this the only case with 3 days? Because I forget if Haunted has 3 days... mostly because official Ace Attorney hasn't ballsed up and done another 3 day case lol


i remember it being 2 days but it's been a few months sense i played contempt of court. i never understood why they stopped having 3 days trails after the first game sure they made the 2 days longer to make up for it but rather have 3 epic long days.
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megamike15 wrote:

i remember it being 2 days but it's been a few months sense i played contempt of court. i never understood why they stopped having 3 days trails after the first game sure they made the 2 days longer to make up for it but rather have 3 epic long days.


I know... now the structure is so predictable... Investigation -> Trial -> Investigation -> Trial Former -> Trial Latter
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Cardiovore wrote:
The length of Turnabout of the Snow could be considered on par with Turnabout Succession overall.


Is the final confrontation also gonna consist of just one testimony?
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Ropfa wrote:
Is the final confrontation also gonna consist of just one testimony?

No idea at this stage! There'll be a bunch of testimonies from one character, and then maybe just one from another.
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Cardiovore wrote:
Ropfa wrote:
Is the final confrontation also gonna consist of just one testimony?

No idea at this stage! There'll be a bunch of testimonies from one character, and then maybe just one from another.



Are the testimonies about that one issue, from that one person, because of that one thing being another thing about something?

I can be specific too! :udgey:
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Blizdi - Ok I won't!

Scent - Thanks a lot! I know right, near enough five years ago I started it.

Warmijwilf - Thanks very much! :) I never would've thought all those years ago that my random derping around in PyWright would eventually turn into a critically acclaimed 3-case series. Yeah I love passionate game communities that keep a series alive, even if its parent company turn into douchebags and abandon or shun the game themselves.
Have you also considered playing Turnabout Substitution? It was probably one of the first -- if not THE first -- completed fancase. It's pretty rough around the edges but so much love went into it, as well as having a very characteristic atmosphere and choice in music, I'd definitely recommend it!

Yeah, I completed Turnabout Substitution last year (was the first one I played) - absolutely love it.

I heard that a sequel was made but I can't seem to find it anywhere...
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kwando1313 wrote:

Oh cool, thanks.

Shame it's on AAO, means I can't use it on Android PyWright, but oh well...
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I know this is pretty far into the series ... But I've been doing some thinking, and what would people think if I were to split the next upload (when the whole game is complete) into FIVE cases instead of the current three?

Below are what the new case names would be, with explanations of what each would contain.

1. Turnabout Avarice
The flashback trial seen in Scapegoat starring Vincenzo Cicatrice. I thought to have this at the start to make up the obligatory tutorial trial at the start of a game.

2. Turnabout Scapegoat
The same as the original first case, sans flashback sections.

3. The Haunted Turnabout
Exactly the same.

4. Turnabout of the Snow
Case 3, Part 1: White as Snow, as its own standalone. The Renwick flashback at the end would still be present.

5. The Ensnared Turnabout
Case 3, Part 2: Master of Puppets, as its own standalone.
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Cardiovore wrote:
I know this is pretty far into the series ... But I've been doing some thinking, and what would people think if I were to split the next upload (when the whole game is complete) into FIVE cases instead of the current three?

Below are what the new case names would be, with explanations of what each would contain.

1. Turnabout Avarice
The flashback trial seen in Scapegoat starring Vincenzo Cicatrice. I thought to have this at the start to make up the obligatory tutorial trial at the start of a game.

2. Turnabout Scapegoat
The same as the original first case, sans flashback sections.

3. The Haunted Turnabout
Exactly the same.

4. Turnabout of the Snow
Case 3, Part 1: White as Snow, as its own standalone. The Renwick flashback at the end would still be present.

5. The Ensnared Turnabout
Case 3, Part 2: Master of Puppets, as its own standalone.



i think this may be for the better. i found the flashback being part of the same case while story wise works hurt the pacing. i'd rather it be it's own case personally.

and i asked earlier if the final case was gonna be it's own episode as i feel as they are two cases they should just be separated as different episodes, as opposed to the same one it currently is.
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I don't know if I'd split up the flashback and the rest of T-Scapegoat.

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The killers, plots, and motives are all very intertwined. And I don't fully remember, but doesn't some evidence from the flashback carry over into the present day? I'd consider the flashback more as part of the bigger case than its own story, really.

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Ropfa wrote:
I don't know if I'd split up the flashback and the rest of T-Scapegoat.

Spoiler:
The killers, plots, and motives are all very intertwined. And I don't fully remember, but doesn't some evidence from the flashback carry over into the present day? I'd consider the flashback more as part of the bigger case than its own story, really.


Completely agreed. Scapegoat is too intertwined to have it split like that, IMO.
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kwando1313 wrote:
Ropfa wrote:
I don't know if I'd split up the flashback and the rest of T-Scapegoat.

Spoiler:
The killers, plots, and motives are all very intertwined. And I don't fully remember, but doesn't some evidence from the flashback carry over into the present day? I'd consider the flashback more as part of the bigger case than its own story, really.


Completely agreed. Scapegoat is too intertwined to have it split like that, IMO.


Agreed.

*cough* T-REV *Cough*

Agreed.
Re: PW: Contempt of Court ~ Case 3: Part 2 at 50% completionTopic%20Title

One thing that doesn't make sense to me:

Spoiler: "case 3"
In the Renwick investigation bit, how is Schaden Freude already the Chief of Police? If its set 5 years ago, wouldn't it be Gant? Gant is even mentioned before in the case...


Also I agree with splitting up case 3 into two separate cases, they might as well be separate if you were planning on calling it Case 3 Part 1 and Case 3 Part 2 anyway.

As for the flashback thing I think it's fine as it is tbh and like has been mentioned above, evidence carries over and the format as it is for case 1 is perfect.
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One thing that doesn't make sense to me:

Spoiler: "case 3"
In the Renwick investigation bit, how is Schaden Freude already the Chief of Police? If its set 5 years ago, wouldn't it be Gant? Gant is even mentioned before in the case...


Also I agree with splitting up case 3 into two separate cases, they might as well be separate if you were planning on calling it Case 3 Part 1 and Case 3 Part 2 anyway.

As for the flashback thing I think it's fine as it is tbh and like has been mentioned above, evidence carries over and the format as it is for case 1 is perfect.

Warm --
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Let's just say that he was. And then he wasn't. And now he is again.
The Renwick flashback takes place Feb 11 2014, which is a year before Gant became chief. SL-9 happened the following year, which was the case that rose Gant to chief status.


All -- Ok then I'll leave Scapegoat as it is, but split Case 3 into 2. So you've just played Turnabout of the Snow, and now I'm making The Ensnared Turnabout.
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Cardiovore wrote:
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Let's just say that he was. And then he wasn't. And now he is again.
The Renwick flashback takes place Feb 11 2014, which is a year before Gant became chief. SL-9 happened the following year, which was the case that rose Gant to chief status.

Ohhh, okay, cool. That does make sense.

The Ensnared Turnabout is a great name, btw.
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You should update the title and the OP to reflect the episode change
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Blizdi wrote:
You should update the title and the OP to reflect the episode change

Done.
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Re: PW: Contempt of Court ~ Case 4 at 50% completionTopic%20Title

I think I have a solid guess as to who Hemlock is:

Spoiler: Hemlock?
Vincenzo Cicatrice

I'm assuming it's not a completely new character since that would be somewhat anticlimactic and Contempt has been anything but so far, and Renwick said that the voice was unrecognisable. So unless a voice changer was being used that rules out pretty much all of the characters he met, apart from Vincenzo who he never actually talked to and just saw sitting on the defendant bench.

I would've said Schaden Freude but the name makes it seem too obvious... more like a red herring imo. Plus Hemlock said Alba was an "old guy" which would be pretty hypocritical.

Maybe he just shaved his hair afterwards hence the bald! Plus I'm pretty sure I see traces of blue hair there...

Have absolutely no idea of what his motives could possibly be though...


Obviously I don't want an answer or anything, I just felt like sharing my theory to see what other people think! (Other than Cardiovore since you already know obviously!)
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Spoiler:
It's obviously Maya.

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kwando1313 wrote:
Spoiler:
It's obviously Maya.


Spoiler:
It's obviously Phoenix


Also:

Warmijwilf wrote:
I think I have a solid guess as to who Hemlock is:

Spoiler: Hemlock?
Vincenzo Cicatrice

I'm assuming it's not a completely new character since that would be somewhat anticlimactic and Contempt has been anything but so far, and Renwick said that the voice was unrecognisable. So unless a voice changer was being used that rules out pretty much all of the characters he met, apart from Vincenzo who he never actually talked to and just saw sitting on the defendant bench.

I would've said Schaden Freude but the name makes it seem too obvious... more like a red herring imo. Plus Hemlock said Alba was an "old guy" which would be pretty hypocritical.

Maybe he just shaved his hair afterwards hence the bald! Plus I'm pretty sure I see traces of blue hair there...

Have absolutely no idea of what his motives could possibly be though...


Obviously I don't want an answer or anything, I just felt like sharing my theory to see what other people think! (Other than Cardiovore since you already know obviously!)


I think I somewhat agree with this... mostly because...
Spoiler:
The foreground art files have a file called freudepuppet.png lol
Obviously it isn't him
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Please. Ropfa and I have already extensive proven why that person has to be the culprit.
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kwando1313 wrote:


Well I obviously can't argue with Ropfa AND kwando... Your theory is 100% absolutely true then
Re: PW: Contempt of Court ~ Case 4 at 50% completionTopic%20Title

Not to mention

Spoiler: welp
People throughout the game called Vincenzo "creepy" but they could never really explain why. There must be more to this
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OOOOH! Nice case art!

Spoiler:
Well, gee, I've been suspecting Renwick, and he's on the case art for Case 4... and it seems that the killer is the biggest person on every case art... NOT SUSPICIOUS AT ALL THERE, RENWICK!
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Blizdi wrote:
OOOOH! Nice case art!

Spoiler:
Well, gee, I've been suspecting Renwick, and he's on the case art for Case 4... and it seems that the killer is the biggest person on every case art... NOT SUSPICIOUS AT ALL THERE, RENWICK!

So Phoenix and Greisen were the killers of the first two cases?

(I'm planning on changing the other case arts in the future. Besides, the main case arts disappeared for some reason.)

But thank you!
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Cardiovore wrote:
Blizdi wrote:
OOOOH! Nice case art!

Spoiler:
Well, gee, I've been suspecting Renwick, and he's on the case art for Case 4... and it seems that the killer is the biggest person on every case art... NOT SUSPICIOUS AT ALL THERE, RENWICK!

So Phoenix and Greisen were the killers of the first two cases?

(I'm planning on changing the other case arts in the future. Besides, the main case arts disappeared for some reason.)

But thank you!


*cough* Why do you always ruin mah fun Cardio? GO TO YOUR OFFICE!
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How wait of case 4 sorry my english is not good
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Been playing this a lot lately. Finished case 2 a couple of days ago. Very impressed so far; the cases are great and the art is stellar. Case 2's killer was a tad obvious from the get-go, but that didn't detract from my enjoyment at all.

Looking forward to the finished product.
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Hi, everybody!

I'm a HUGE fan of the Ace Attorney/Investigations series and I've recently discovered these fangames, so I decided to play all the games I could and I must admit that Contempt of Court and Turnabout Substitution are my favourites, so first of all, I'd like to greet Cardiovore and thank him all his work.

However, I'd also like to report a bug I found during Turnabout of the Snow that doesn't let me finish the game. But because of spoilers and stuff I'll put them inside the box.

Spoiler:
Duringthe second trial I reached the part in which Brisbane tells that Snow killed his partner with an stiletto dagger with Renwick's help. When I present the authopsy report to demonstrate that the knife is the true murder weapon, everybody argues and suddenly the judge restarts Renwick's statement but with the Allegro and nothing works against him.

What should have happened, based on a let's play I found on Youtube, is that Brisbane calls Maggey out to testify.

I also found this looking at the script in the search for bugs. I tried to change it but, obviously, it doesn't let me:
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What should I do? I have PyWright ver 0.986 and I dowloaded the case with its "Updates" options because I don't know how to use the files (call me n00b if you want :godot: )


Anyway, I hope you come up with a solution to this thing, because I really like your work and the whole game as a lot. :gant:

Thanks a lot in advance :will:
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W1S3M4N wrote:
Hi, everybody!

I'm a HUGE fan of the Ace Attorney/Investigations series and I've recently discovered these fangames, so I decided to play all the games I could and I must admit that Contempt of Court and Turnabout Substitution are my favourites, so first of all, I'd like to greet Cardiovore and thank him all his work.

However, I'd also like to report a bug I found during Turnabout of the Snow that doesn't let me finish the game. But because of spoilers and stuff I'll put them inside the box.

Spoiler:
Duringthe second trial I reached the part in which Brisbane tells that Snow killed his partner with an stiletto dagger with Renwick's help. When I present the authopsy report to demonstrate that the knife is the true murder weapon, everybody argues and suddenly the judge restarts Renwick's statement but with the Allegro and nothing works against him.

What should have happened, based on a let's play I found on Youtube, is that Brisbane calls Maggey out to testify.

I also found this looking at the script in the search for bugs. I tried to change it but, obviously, it doesn't let me:
Image

What should I do? I have PyWright ver 0.986 and I dowloaded the case with its "Updates" options because I don't know how to use the files (call me n00b if you want :godot: )


Anyway, I hope you come up with a solution to this thing, because I really like your work and the whole game as a lot. :gant:

Thanks a lot in advance :will:

Hi there! Thanks very much for your interest in the game, I've said this before but it's always great to see that it's still attracting new people :)

Right, now about that... I believe there were two things you should've done in the cross-examination. One would be to present Docks' Autopsy Report, as your screenshot shows, while the other thing to do would be to...
Spoiler:
...present Snow's Testimony at statement 4.

Once you address one issue, the Allegro music kicks in and you're taken back to the testimony to find the other issue. (Sorry that it's so abrupt -- that's something I've "fixed" for the next update -- but it's a bit more explained better if you did the other thing first.) Doing both things should trigger the Bailiff's interruption.

Hope that helps, because that's the only solution I can see.
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Hey Cardy
First on a praise from me. I must ever laugh. and how wait are you Case 4 and when is complete to estimate.
And I nervous of Case 4 from Phoenix Wright Contemp of Court. And wird pron on follower from Contemp of Court oder a Dlc Case of Contemp of Court. Anyway i wish you good luck for Case 4 GOOD LUCK.
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Gintendo wrote:
Hey Cardy
First on a praise from me. I must ever laugh. and how wait are you Case 4 and when is complete to estimate.
And I nervous of Case 4 from Phoenix Wright Contemp of Court. And wird pron on follower from Contemp of Court oder a Dlc Case of Contemp of Court. Anyway i wish you good luck for Case 4 GOOD LUCK.

I've been very on-and-off with Case 4 lately, so I'm gonna guess just after Christmas. But I'm making no promises, my personal life has become unpredictably busy. Hope you all understand.
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Hello Cardy.
I wanted to say your game that your game is awesome :godot: . And I wanted to ask if you'll post a demo of the 4rth case.
Also I wanted to thank you for doing this.
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