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Re: Phoenix Wright - Hidden Traces [2 playable cases, 8+ hrs!]Topic%20Title
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This game is pretty fun~

The only thing that would make it better is if... well... if I actually understood German. :sadshoe:

For some bizarre reason, I can understand 50% more German when it's spoken rather than written, so I've just been sitting here reading all the lines out loud... it helps, but unfortunately I got stuck at Trilo's "What I Saw: Part 2". Possibly because I didn't know what "Handschuh" meant. (I do now, though, just looked it up.)

Is there any way to have the game not be full screen? It's a little disorienting and I think it makes the text harder to read (for me, at least). Also, is there any way to stop & save at something other than a savepoint? I couldn't figure out how to quit, so I just ended up presenting a bunch of wrong evidence until I lost.

Anyway, I think I may have to wait for full English version before trying again, because it's a little difficult to figure out exactly what the contradictions are when I don't fully understand the evidence to back up my claims.

I might be able to help with a French translation, but I think I may be a little rusty so there would have to be a native speaker to check on my grammar. Eheh...
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@ jeti
You've come pretty far for someone who doesn't speak German, lulz. I recommend to wait for the patch, because you would have trouble to understand the story and its turnabouts. You'll enjoy it far more when the thing is done.
We're working pretty fast, so it's only a matter of time.

jeti wrote:
Is there any way to have the game not be full screen?

Rpg-Maker games can change their window size. Just press F4 for 640 x 480 and then F5 for even 320 x 240. Best quality, right there.

jeti wrote:
Also, is there any way to stop & save at something other than a savepoint?

Saving only works during court-breaks. That's because of two things:
1. The game would restart a lot of stuff I you load a save in the middle of a process because the Rpg-Maker is stupid.
2. The original game was far too easy with troubleshooting. It had to go.

But no worries. The tutorial case isn't that long and case 2 even allows to save anytime you want in the "Wright Agency". You can save there by pressing ESC, the same way if you're on the episode selection.

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Progess report:

Translated 2nd cross examination. (all of it)


To be done:

Something special :godot:
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DDRKhat wrote:
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A question...

When it's done, all we would have to do is change from english to other languages?

(Cause I want it in spanish and could help...)

Sort of. Not -as- easy as that. You need a fair bit of dedication and spare time on your hands, or good time managing skills, to have the patience to sit and translate it all, as the text for it all is a little here, a little there, and unless you can read German with a bit of fluency you will struggle to find it all without the support of the creator.
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It was done with the RPG-Maker. To edit things, you need the RPG-Maker and open the game with it. Then you have to search for every piece of dialogue and translate it.
RPG Maker 2003. But not too far off.
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@DDRKhat: Good work, I'd love to see a fully translatet game. =D
Thank you. I might be cheeky and release screenshots soon. Or perhaps a new gameplay video.. we shall see.
KSA_Tech wrote:
I wil certainly play this game once it is totally translated.
Good to hear people are looking forward to it.


Ya know... I was expecting to translate from ENGLISH TO SPANISH LOLZ :P
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Something special

For example, I must translate the Fey Map from the second case. ~h0ly sh1t xD
It's very hard to remake the map because I can't edit the original (no psd file >_<)

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Spoiler: SPOILER! Global HiddenTraces News
We will release in near future a Graphics Patch for PWHT with Profile- and Evidence-Pictures in better quality and some little graphical fixes. Afaik, Canas wants to include it also into the english Patch so you need not to download 3 things, but 2 ones (Demo0.52 and EngPatch). But I couldn't say surely that we also offer a full english version, in other words an "English PrePatched PWHT" xD ~ we will see...

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@ jeti
You've come pretty far for someone who doesn't speak German, lulz. I recommend to wait for the patch, because you would have trouble to understand the story and its turnabouts. You'll enjoy it far more when the thing is done.
We're working pretty fast, so it's only a matter of time.


Well, I'm a real language nut, and I've done some study in Etymology so since English is a Germanic language I wouldn't say it's terribly much of an accomplishment~

Currently I know English & French, working on German, Italian and Japanese... main problem with German is I don't know any verbs, so that's where I have trouble piecing together the testimony:

Spoiler: rambling
Like, when Trilo says "Er zückte sein Messer und schnitt das Seil in 3 Teile." I get "He *something* his knife and *something* the rope in 3 *something*" so I figure he says that Ben cut the rope in three. Therefore, I assume zückte=took, schnitt=cut and Teile=parts.

And when I check the rope in evidence, I see this: "Die Mordwaffe, an beiden Enden abgeschnitten. Es wurden 2 weitere Seilstücke am Tatort gefunden." Which I read as "The murderweapon, at *something* end *something*cut. There were 2 *something* rope*something* at *something* found." Minus the words I don't know, that becomes "The murder weapon, cut at the ends. There were 2 pieces found." Except weitere means other, so it actually should read that there were 2 other pieces found...

So I pretty much have the whole idea, but because I didn't know that weitere meant "other," I present the rope as a contradiction, which of course it isn't. Whoops.


But I'm pretty pleased with how far I got anyway, so maybe I'll try again. With a dictionary. :minuki:

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jeti wrote:
Is there any way to have the game not be full screen?

Rpg-Maker games can change their window size. Just press F4 for 640 x 480 and then F5 for even 320 x 240. Best quality, right there.


Sweeeet, that makes it much easier to read. At the large size the letters were running together, so I couldn't pronounce things.

By the way, is there a way to check evidence without presenting? Like if I click present and look at the evidence, and then realise that I was mistaken and it wasn't a contradiction after all, is there a way to say nevermind rather than wasting my life bar presenting something so that I can continue on with testimony?

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For example, I must translate the Fey Map from the second case. ~h0ly sh1t xD
It's very hard to remake the map because I can't edit the original (no psd file >_<)


That's Karte-2, right? (Almost the same as French, heh). It doesn't really look that hard at all to edit, I think I could clean it if you like.

Edit: Yeah, it cleaned up real simple: check it out. I hope that's what you needed.
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You can always use the escape button (or some other with the same function) to cancel actions. You can leave the courtrecords in this way without presenting something.
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jeti wrote:
By the way, is there a way to check evidence without presenting? Like if I click present and look at the evidence, and then realise that I was mistaken and it wasn't a contradiction after all, is there a way to say nevermind rather than wasting my life bar presenting something so that I can continue on with testimony?
You get 3 options. "Back" ,"Examine" ," Present" hope that helps ;)
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Phoenick wrote:
You can always use the escape button (or some other with the same function) to cancel actions. You can leave the courtrecords in this way without presenting something.

Other Buttons for "Cancel": X, C, V, B, N, Insert, Num0
It's stupid but we can't change it xD...

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@jeti: Very good! Thank you. ~ btw: the english map is done^^
~~~ I'll send it to Canas

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jeti wrote:
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jeti wrote:
Is there any way to have the game not be full screen?


Rpg-Maker games can change their window size. Just press F4 for 640 x 480 and then F5 for even 320 x 240. Best quality, right there.


Sweeeet, that makes it much easier to read. At the large size the letters were running together, so I couldn't pronounce things.


:phoenix: You can also make a LNK-File with the Parameter "Window" (without "-", "/" or something)
Example: X:\#ProgramFiles#\Enterbrain\RPG2003\Games\PWHT 0.52\RPG_RT.exe Window
EDIT!: It's the wrong way for Window mode, look 2 posts down for the right one.
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MagicMaker wrote:
:phoenix: You can also make a LNK-File with the Parameter "Window" (without "-", "/" or something)
Example: X:\#ProgramFiles#\Enterbrain\RPG2003\Games\PWHT 0.52\RPG_RT.exe Window
This does not work for me. It still loads the program up in a full screen.
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Okay, you're right. Wait... Try it this way:

X:\#ProgramFiles#\Enterbrain\RPG2003\Games\PWHT 0.52\RPG_RT.exe Parameter Parameter Window

You can replace the "Parameter"-Strings with anything else, for example JHOUSXGXBZ or some other trash.
I forgot that "Window" must be the third parameter. The other ones are not interesting for you^^.

EDIT: Good night, guys^^. In Germany, it's 01:20 / 01:20am.
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MagicMaker wrote:
Okay, you're right. Wait... Try it this way:

X:\#ProgramFiles#\Enterbrain\RPG2003\Games\PWHT 0.52\RPG_RT.exe Parameter Parameter Window

You can replace the "Parameter"-Strings with anything else, for example JHOUSXGXBZ or some other trash.
I forgot that "Window" must be the third parameter. The other ones are not interesting for you^^.

EDIT: Good night, guys^^. In Germany, it's 01:20 / 01:20am.
Ahha. Ok. I will bundle the English patch with a 2nd shortcut with states "Windowed RPG_RT" for those that don't want it going full screen.
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It's not a good idea to include a shortcut because it search his target file in a fixed directory, that means if you have the game in the Folder... "C:\Program Files\Enterbrain\RPG2003\Games\PWHT\", the Shortcut wants to execute "C:\Program Files\Enterbrain\RPG2003\Games\PWHT\RPG_RT.exe", but when the Game Directory is... "C:\Games\Phoenix Wright Hidden Traces\", the Shortcuts wants to execute "C:\Program Files\Enterbrain\RPG2003\Games\PWHT\RPG_RT.exe", too, because it's fixed. It will be better to write into a readme file how you can start in windowed mode.
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MagicMaker wrote:
It's not a good idea to include a shortcut because it search his target file in a fixed directory, that means if you have the game in the Folder... "C:\Program Files\Enterbrain\RPG2003\Games\PWHT\", the Shortcut wants to execute "C:\Program Files\Enterbrain\RPG2003\Games\PWHT\RPG_RT.exe", but when the Game Directory is... "C:\Games\Phoenix Wright Hidden Traces\", the Shortcuts wants to execute "C:\Program Files\Enterbrain\RPG2003\Games\PWHT\RPG_RT.exe", too, because it's fixed. It will be better to write into a readme file how you can start in windowed mode.


Well, I was thinking I could make the shortcut just look to RPG_RT.exe but that doesn't seem to be a option, so, i'll just explain how to do it in the readme that will be bundled :jake:


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Great job, DDRKhat. I added the English Patch-Trailer to the startpost for everyone to see. It's a shame no one commented on it yet. Keep up the good work!
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I can't seem to get this game to run. I downloaded the RTP and everything, but I keep getting an error message.

It's a shame, too. Because this game looks great.
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dragoneye13 wrote:
I can't seem to get this game to run. I downloaded the RTP and everything, but I keep getting an error message.

It's a shame, too. Because this game looks great.

What kind of "error message" are you getting? Do you have any screens or can you quote it? I would like to help you on that case.
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Here's what happens when I start it up.

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This error message means that a file is missing - but this file should be in the RTP. Have you downloaded and installed the RTP? If you have done this, this message shouldn't appear...
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Phoenick wrote:
This error message means that a file is missing - but this file should be in the RTP. Have you downloaded and installed the RTP? If you have done this, this message shouldn't appear...


I downloaded and installed the RTP, but this still happens.
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dragoneye13 wrote:
Phoenick wrote:
This error message means that a file is missing - but this file should be in the RTP. Have you downloaded and installed the RTP? If you have done this, this message shouldn't appear...


I downloaded and installed the RTP, but this still happens.
You would be the perfect test candidate for something then... contact me by MSN and I will explain more there. p.s Canas, as I know you will read this eventually, I'm not going to be distributing a beta of the English patch. Just wanted to make sure yuo knew that before you tried saying anything :will:
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DDRKhat wrote:
dragoneye13 wrote:
Phoenick wrote:
This error message means that a file is missing - but this file should be in the RTP. Have you downloaded and installed the RTP? If you have done this, this message shouldn't appear...


I downloaded and installed the RTP, but this still happens.
You would be the perfect test candidate for something then... contact me by MSN and I will explain more there. p.s Canas, as I know you will read this eventually, I'm not going to be distributing a beta of the English patch. Just wanted to make sure yuo knew that before you tried saying anything :will:


Uh, sorry. Don't have MSN. :payne: I don't suppose I could contact you another way?
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Uh, sorry. Don't have MSN. :payne: I don't suppose I could contact you another way?
My profile tells you all of the messengers I am available from.
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DDRKhat wrote:
dragoneye13 wrote:
Uh, sorry. Don't have MSN. :payne: I don't suppose I could contact you another way?
My profile tells you all of the messengers I am available from.


And I don't have any of them. :larry: I don't suppose it would just be easier to do over e-mail?
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dragoneye13 wrote:
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dragoneye13 wrote:
Uh, sorry. Don't have MSN. :payne: I don't suppose I could contact you another way?
My profile tells you all of the messengers I am available from.
And I don't have any of them. :larry: I don't suppose it would just be easier to do over e-mail?
Do you not even have ICQ? otherwise keeping in contact with you will become quite difficult. The task would require relatively swift responses that only Instant Messengers can -really- provide.
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Okay, I have ICQ now. Now everything should be okay.
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dragoneye13 wrote:
Okay, I have ICQ now. Now everything should be okay.
I am sorry if you have had to go grab a Instant messenger over this :( It's just, it would be real helpful - with what im planning to get you to help with - if we had constant contact for just a few hours. PM me your ICQ number.
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dragoneye13 wrote:
Here's what happens when I start it up.

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Phoenick wrote:
This error message means that a file is missing - but this file should be in the RTP. Have you downloaded and installed the RTP? If you have done this, this message shouldn't appear...


Actually, if you look at the way his screen looks - you would notice he is running Windows Vista.
Now, while I don't support vista (it seriously needs work on, Microsoft!)

To fix this error, for Vista Users
Right-click on the application (RPG_RT.exe)
tick the box Run as administrator
Viola!

For those of you that want windowed mode, make a short cut then make the end look like this;

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/RPG_RT.exe" Lets Go Window
Doesn't exactly have to be that, but the third word does, so I thought it makes sense to make it look like that :)
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Run as Administrator fix 90% of the issues with Vista.

I need to test this game even in german. Can't indeed way even for the english release.
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How is the translation going?
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Is the translation dead?
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Last time i did talk with DDKhat about it, he said he had it on hold and was going to resume working. Unless now hw changed his mind.
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I sure hope it aint dead. I want to play this game!
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Time to give some kind of update for you guys. DDRKhat's still busy with one special testimony, but we're lucky enough to have someone else who's helping on this project now. I, however, can't keep up with the daily translations because I'm going to start with university very soon and this means a lot more preparation work (up to 6 hours each day...). But hey, it ain't dead now. You'll get your demo, no worries. ;P

Oh, and if you want to know what I'm actually working on right now...
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Sorry for the lack of updates guys I wanted to refrain from posting until I had news about progress, I've pretty much done everything now it's just down to translating the physical case, all other content is now English so it's just a matter of waiting for my very considerate translator (who speaks German! :udgy: ) whom works for free to give me the next batch of translation so I can localize it then put it into the game.

I also have to point out that work has really picked up so I can't exactly sit and translate during free periods (because duh, there are none..) so it's going to spread my time thinner. Not only that, my Team Fortress 2 server has begun to pick up in population so I have to administrate it a bit closer.. that last one was a bit of a personal excuse I suppose but I want to make the server with my money.

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DDRKhat, if you are busy, I could perhaps help with the translation. I typically ALWAYS have free time, even when I'm in school.

So if life/other internet stuffs kills your ability to work on this, I could work on it too.

Sadly, I'm in the same boat as you (Doesn't know a lick of German). So if I did help, I'd need you or your translator to send me the translations.
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slaix223 wrote:
DDRKhat, if you are busy, I could perhaps help with the translation. I typically ALWAYS have free time, even when I'm in school.

So if life/other internet stuffs kills your ability to work on this, I could work on it too.

Sadly, I'm in the same boat as you (Doesn't know a lick of German). So if I did help, I'd need you or your translator to send me the translations.

I can easily fit the time in, im mostly waiting for the translations from my German translator.
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Alright then, I was just making the possibility available, just in case you do become too busy.

Either way, I wish you best of luck on the translation.
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I really should get back to playing this sometime, but I stopped a while ago and I've been busy lately. I intend to finish the german version.
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Erm... When I start it, my screen kinda goes off. Like when I shut down my PC but the screen is on there's a message like "NO INPUT" or something. When I press enter i hear the sound of the judge's hammer, but I have to press Alt+F4 to end the game bcause I can't see anything. Help plox? :larry:
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