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Premise:
A nationwide revolution has brought forth... a worldwide rebellion.

Spoilers from other games:
Contains spoilers from all the games franchise. Spoilers will be present from Spirit of Justice.


The Team
Head Writer: ApolloGrimoire
Spriter: Hesseldahl
Coder: ApolloGrimoire, Hesseldahl
Quality Assurance: TheKayOne
Music:
Artist: Hesseldahl
Testers: Hesseldahl, TheKayOne, AceAttorneyMaster111

Positions are open.

Cases:
I plan to have at least up to 6 cases.

Where I'm at right now.

Case 1: Complete (Minus Ema's SOJ sprites.)
Case 2: Scripting first draft of Trial Former

Spoiler: Case 1: Nuring the Turnabout
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Synopsis: Date: April 19th 2029.

A nurse studying at a world famous medical academy is charged with murdering a patient under her care. Coincidentally, Apollo and Athena were there assisting Ema with a class experiment so they offered to take her case. However all is not it seems at the well loved and respected school of nursing...

Case 1 Progress:
Planning: 100%
Scripting: 100%
Sprites: 95%
Music and sound effects: 100%
Evidence: 100%
Backgrounds: 100%

Trial Former: http://aceattorney.sparklin.org/player. ... l_id=71393
Trial Latter: http://aceattorney.sparklin.org/player. ... l_id=78767

Additional Credit:
Cutscenes: SuzuneKazama, Hesseldahl
Sprites: Lind, jermynsoup, Hesseldahl, Aer, Rajin, mercurialSK, JeanofmArc, Dylanduck, Greenyl, drvonkitty, Tap
Evidence and Profiles: Ropfa, Aer, Anyware, Hesseldahl, drvonkitty
Voice Actors: Kira Buckland, Lind


AceAttorneyOnline link: http://aceattorney.sparklin.org/forum/v ... 15&t=10519
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Case 1 - Nursing the Turnabout: Trial Former, Trial Latter


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Oh my! If this isn't a surprise.

I was wondering when we'd get more new fangames to satiate our hype for the current ones. I was almost... *cough* Heartbroken *cough* but it seems the wait paid off.

If you ever need any help in the testing, feel free to PM me.

And good luck with the project.
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i really hope you stick with it this time and personally i am not a huge fan of the aao engine so nice to see you useing pywright.
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Thank you. Work is underway on the first half of case 1.

Since I forgot yesterday, I've added additional credits to the first post below the DL Link.
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I hope you are still working hard on this case, Grim. I loved your weird grim/funny hybrid writing style, so I am REALLY looking foward to this case.
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I am, don't worry.

Scripting is almost done for this first case.
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Decided to update the first post with some background information on the first two cases of the game.

The first case will be playable in some form, but it won't be the full experience yet. I want to get something done in time for Christmas.

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Here's a teaser image for the Christmas preview.

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It's already 11PM here. Still looking forward to it.
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Around Midnight UK time.
That's where I'm from.


Preview of the first case is now public.

Happy Christmas to everyone. :athena:
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i thought the preview was alright but i have to nitpick.

trucy seems very out of character i just can't put my finger on it but she is written very oddly. like she is younger then she should be. and i never recalled her speaking in 3rd person and it's very distracting.

so it's mostly trucy i have issues with everything else seems fine.
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megamike15 wrote:
i thought the preview was alright but i have to nitpick.

trucy seems very out of character i just can't put my finger on it but she is written very oddly. like she is younger then she should be. and i never recalled her speaking in 3rd person and it's very distracting.

so it's mostly trucy i have issues with everything else seems fine.


Apparently she spoke like that in the jap version
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Blizdi wrote:
megamike15 wrote:
i thought the preview was alright but i have to nitpick.

trucy seems very out of character i just can't put my finger on it but she is written very oddly. like she is younger then she should be. and i never recalled her speaking in 3rd person and it's very distracting.

so it's mostly trucy i have issues with everything else seems fine.


Apparently she spoke like that in the jap version


well it seems weird for a fan case to take things from the Japanese script then the English one we are more familiar with.

I was never a fan of Japanese girls speaking in 3rd person in general. it gets annoying.
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To megamike15:

It's only apparent in the first case. It was worse, but I have toned it down so it's less frequent now. She will be back to normal by the end.

It does get played for laughs in the first trial scene and brought up a couple of times.
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Just finished the demo so far
Spoiler:
Wait, Apollo's murdered...? Plz... this game is called Project Justice...

It still has some missing letters and words. Anyway, still looking forward to the full case
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My thoughts inside the spoiler!
Spoiler: Heavy and somewhat harsh critique inside
As you might remember, I played through Heartbreaking around a year or so ago and was heavily critical. However, I maintain that my criticisms were well-founded, albeit perhaps a little bit harsh. However, my only intention was to help you improve your case and try my best to give any advice I can to lead you to success. As always, all criticism is constructive, and based on what I'm seeing in what's given to me. I don't know what's inside your head, so pardon me if anything I say will be explained later in the story - this is just a preview, after all. Hopefully I won't offend, as I promise that's not my intention.

To begin, I agree wholeheartedly that Trucy feels very out of character. Even if referring to herself in the third-person is used in the Japanese version, it's not going to make sense to any old layman playing this based solely on knowledge of the English localization. Personally, it makes her feel vastly younger than she actually is, and greatly contradicts (no pun intended) the character presented to us in the English localization of AJ. While this is my personal opinion, I don't see why you would want to have her refer to herself in the third-person.

Furthermore, Trucy is also just out of character in general. IMO, you're making her FAR weaker and feeble than she actually is. Trucy has been through a LOT of shit in her past. She lost her mother, was abandoned by her father, and then found out 7 years later that her father died without ever revealing to her who he actually was. That certainly wasn't an easy blow to take, but at no point did we really see Trucy have a breakdown over it. She toughed it out and hid her emotions from everyone so that she wouldn't seem weak. It's a coping mechanism, and one that Trucy obviously deploys. Phoenix remarks on this at the end of AJ, saying "I'm the only one who knows how she really feels" or something like that.

So why, in this preview, is she having a panic attack because Apollo isn't there? That doesn't really seem much like the strong girl who hides her emotions from everyone, save maybe her adopted father. Sure, she might be worried about Apollo - that's obvious, but it just doesn't make sense for her to be totally freaking out about it. It would take vastly more to make Trucy have a breakdown.

Now, understand that I'm not against Trucy having a breakdown; in fact, I think it would be very interesting to see what it'd be like for Trucy to lose her "cool", so to speak. But it needs to be over something major - like Apollo supposedly dying, for example. Keep Trucy in character and strong like she is. She's no damsel in distress, so don't try to make her one!

The grammar is slightly problematic, but I'm assuming that's just because this is a preview. Just bear in mind that it doesn't leave a very strong first impression for anyone who plays it.

I say this as kindly as possible, but the writing feels very... stiff. I got the impression that one of your strongest points was your ability to write dialogue in a very real manner, but it's definitely not showing here. It feels like I'm watching a bunch of robots interact, not real characters. The two nurses (whose names I have forgotten) had practically no character, but I hope that'll be fixed when we get to see more of them. They didn't show any real character traits in this preview anyhow. Other than that, the characters just feel... emotionless. Trucy's panic attack could be argued to create emotion, but it's forced on us, not something that I can actually feel sympathy for. Sympathy has to be earned through seemingly "real" characters facing "real" problems (by which I mean, they have to FEEL real - they're obviously not real lol) - forcing it on the player early just leaves a bad taste in their mouth.

While I understand this is your own decision as the designer, bringing in the two nurse characters feels very awkward to me. The relationship is established from the get-go of the trial, and as such, it feels lacking and empty. We haven't seen these characters interact, so why should we believe that they are friends? That's why the relationship between Maya and Phoenix is so poignant by T&T - we've had full GAMES to establish their relationship together, through thick and thin. I'd argue that the reason a lot of people didn't like Athena is that she was just, well, dropped into a friendship with Phoenix and Apollo. There was very little actual build up there.

This probably came off as really really harsh, but I promise you that's not how I intend to come off. It's more the way I review things actually. Regardless, I look forward to playing this case in full, and I hope it helps you!

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I'm currently addressing the issues on the feedback on Trucy's character and working on finishing the first trial section.
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Thanks to feedback and advice from my testers, a complete rewrite of the preview is now available.

Link is in the first post, but for convenience: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/214 ... %202.0.rar
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Just download the newest part:
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That's weird, I still have some bugs unfixed like the first part. So ver.0.986 is not capable of this?
Oh now Apollo is just unconscious. Thanks God!
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Spoiler:
Are you playing the android version?

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Spoiler:
Pretty sure I downloaded the PC version
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Spoiler:
It says you use 0.986? Upgrade to 0.9880 and you shouldn't have bugs.

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Definite improvement from the last update! There's still some grammatical errors (which I'm sure a couple of proofreads will work out), but Trucy's character is faaaar more solid, except for the couple of remaining third-person self referrals. The issue still remains with the two nurses, but the connection felt significantly more real and believable this time around. If you play it right, I could definitely buy the friendship between Trucy and the other girl. (Although it was oddly romantic-feeling, whether that was intentional or not.)

Anyway, I look forward to seeing where you go with this! Trucy defense attorney should be interesting, if you can do it well. :trucy:
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So, if this game focuses mainly around Apollo and Athena, how many cases will each lawyer get? Will Apollo have three and Athena two, or is only Apollo playable?
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To GyakuFan47:

Case 1 is entirely Trucy exclusive.
Case 2 is Athena's.

I want to keep the rest a secret for now. More will be revealed when Case 1 is halfway completed, but Apollo is playable and so is Phoenix.

To drvonkitty:

Oddly romantic? :beef: Definitely unintentional.
Weird, I thought I removed all of the third person stuff.
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the before trial scene is alot better now that you took the fainting scene out. and trucy is now back in character minus one small 3rd person that slipped out.

just change trucy is fine to i'm fine.

i did notice one thing that was noticeably changed

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apollo in version 1 was said to be dead but now he is knocked out. i'm sure the intention was for him to be knocked out in the first place as thats what it looked like in the image.
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Oh, that one. I'll fix that for the next release.

Spoiler:
That's the only sticking point that I have. I didn't want to make everyone think that Apollo's dead, but I wanted to make the killer think that he is without sounding cliche.

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Updated the first post with Case 1 art from Hesseldahl. I'll put it here too.

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Quick status report.

I had to rewrite a majority of the first trial section because of problems with the actual crime scene itself. Those problems have been ironed out and progress is going well.

More news soon.

Also, calling out for more beta-testers.
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Update.

For personal reasons, I can only dedicate Project Justice's time on the AAO engine. All my game updates will be posted there for now.

I've updated the first post, but here's the AAO link to Project Justice.

http://aceattorney.sparklin.org/forum/v ... 15&t=10519
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Brushes dust of this forum thread.

The game is still in development and to prove so, the first case after an initial six month delay is virtually complete minus Ema's SOJ sprites.

Special credit goes to Hesseldahl for his amazing artwork and sprites and a special thanks goes to TheKayOne for his hard work in finding all those typos, grammatical erroes, my misuse of semicolons etc.

Links to both parts

Trial Former: http://aceattorney.sparklin.org/player. ... l_id=71393
Trial Latter: http://aceattorney.sparklin.org/player. ... l_id=78767

Case 2 is being scripted and half way through the first draft as this goes public.

Please enjoy. :trucy: :athena:
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