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I wonder what his character will be like? If he is Edgy's assistant, they cant exactly make him a loveable dumbass like in the AA games (even though he was on the prosecutions side then technichally), can they?
Or maybe they can to create a dynamic, if Gumshoe is to Edgy what Maya was to Phoenix (No I don't mean like that! :D )
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I kind of thought that the girl with the key in her hair would somehow be an assistant to Edgeworth. Gumshoe could be too, but it would follow the pattern of Phoenix and Apollo having female assistants.
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Hmmm... thats true. Some posters have said maybe the girl is a defence attorney but maybe she is Edgey's assistant.
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I wonder what his character will be like? If he is Edgy's assistant, they cant exactly make him a loveable dumbass like in the AA games (even though he was on the prosecutions side then technichally), can they?


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See, I always thought that Gumshoe is a lot smarter than people give him credit for. At the very least, he may seem like a dumb, loyal puppy on the outside, but on the inside, he's a wolf.

Wow. How fucking poetic is that. I think that is worthy of haiku.

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Anyway, I'm glad that Gumshoe's going to be the assistant. As much as I love the gimmicky female sidekicks, they just can't provide that "buddy cop movie" feel that Gumshoe can when he's the partner.
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And don't forget the Edgey/Gummy comedy hi jinks dynamic. XD
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OOH! You know what would be awesome? If Edgeworth gets himself into mortal danger and Gumshoe has to come rescue him (as in 1-3 and 3-3). I know we've had that before, but that was with Phoenix, and after all he's just a defense attorney. Of COURSE he needs rescuing from da bad guys.

But a PROSECUTOR? What kind of ruthless villain would risk threatening his life? It would be really interesting to see how Edgeworth would react (both to the imminent threat on his life and Gumshoe's heroic rescue.)
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I can't see why they won't keep him the same....it would be horrible if they did besides the comedy sidekick is tried and tested brilliance. Gumshoe alone is brilliant it would be a horrible blow to Kenji if they changed it.

I didn't really get the feeling the new lady is a defence attorney, maybe another detective or member of the Prosecutors office?

I'm more looking forward to the possibility of an evil defence attorney and convicting people who are actually guilty for once.

Though I'm not sure if the side-on view of characters will be much improvement sure it allows for us to see Edgey interrogating folk but I'm not sure if it'll cut out somethin or just not be right :yuusaku:
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Yeah, I see Gumshoe as the "Maya" in this situation and Edgey as the straight man (ha ha, so to speak :keiko:). I am thinking that Key Girl will be some sort of mysterious person that keeps popping up that knows more than she is letting on, and Edgey and Gumshoe have to find out who she really is. If this game has some interconnected cases, I think that it will culminate at the end with it being revealed that Key Girl was the "key" to the whole thing.
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OOH! You know what would be awesome? If Edgeworth gets himself into mortal danger and Gumshoe has to come rescue him (as in 1-3 and 3-3). I know we've had that before, but that was with Phoenix, and after all he's just a defense attorney. Of COURSE he needs rescuing from da bad guys.

But a PROSECUTOR? What kind of ruthless villain would risk threatening his life? It would be really interesting to see how Edgeworth would react (both to the imminent threat on his life and Gumshoe's heroic rescue.)


I like this. It could lead to a really touching scene where Edgeworth expresses genuine emotion towards Gumshoe, which is rare for him.
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Evil defence attorney? How would that work? Do you mean a manipulative person who gets bad people off the hook just to have a perfect win record (kind of the opposite of Phoenix or Apollo?)
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Evil defence attorney? How would that work? Do you mean a manipulative person who gets bad people off the hook just to have a perfect win record (kind of the opposite of Phoenix or Apollo?)

Spoiler: 4-1; 4-4
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grim_tales wrote:
Evil defence attorney? How would that work? Do you mean a manipulative person who gets bad people off the hook just to have a perfect win record (kind of the opposite of Phoenix or Apollo?)

Spoiler: 4-1; 4-4
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Oh yes of course!
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Anyway, I'm glad that Gumshoe's going to be the assistant. As much as I love the gimmicky female sidekicks, they just can't provide that "buddy cop movie" feel that Gumshoe can when he's the partner.


For some reason this makes me think of Beverly Hills Cop and Hot Fuzz.

I can't wait to see those two in action again.
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Trench Kamen wrote:
Kartoon Kween wrote:
grim_tales wrote:
Evil defence attorney? How would that work? Do you mean a manipulative person who gets bad people off the hook just to have a perfect win record (kind of the opposite of Phoenix or Apollo?)

Spoiler: 4-1; 4-4
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Damn it; stop making me crack up at work.


Ugh totally forgot about that, ok but there'll have to be a new evil defense attorney after all lets face it none of the prosecutors so far have had completely clean consciences so there has to be a defense attorney with some evil trait to him.
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there going to make a beter team than john lennon and paul mcartny don't worry im pretty sure gumshoe is going to be the lovable spaz we al know and love in this game to though i still think he's going to have a major roll mabey like someone posted before heroric gumshoe i can picture him now coming in to save edgey his little coat tied around his neck like a cape epic as for key girl like someone said before i think she'll sorta bop in and out ending up being the key
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I'm pleased to hear that Maggey is returning too! That means Gumshoe's relationship with her might not be forgotten about simply as relationships tend to over sequels and games. Gumshoe will get a nice little storyline with her I hope.
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there going to make a beter team than john lennon and paul mcartny


They were less of a team and more of a couple of guys that bumped heads for competitive inspiration.

Anyways, I don't see why Key Girl and Gumshoe can't both play assistant roles of varying importance. If anything, I imagine Gumshoe being the actual assistant to help out (gameplay-centric?), with Key Girl sticking to Edgeworths's side but mostly there for story relevance.
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Somehow, I personally think Gumshoe will play this role:


-The butt of most of the game's jokes
-Providing useful snippets of information occasionally
-Comedic relief

Edgeworth would use him as the foil for most of the game's humor. In that way, he'd be kinda like the "Maya" or "Trucy" of the game.

One can only wonder if there will be a step-ladder in the game...
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Emperor Ing wrote:
Somehow, I personally think Gumshoe will play this role:


-The butt of most of the game's jokes
-Providing useful snippets of information occasionally
-Comedic relief

Edgeworth would use him as the foil for most of the game's humor. In that way, he'd be kinda like the "Maya" or "Trucy" of the game.

One can only wonder if there will be a step-ladder in the game...


Hehe, I agree. Poor Gumshoe. ^_^;;

I sort of hope that there's a stepladder in the game... and that it reminds him of Phoenix... XD
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And don't forget the Edgey/Gummy comedy hi jinks dynamic. XD


If they lost that, they'd lose one of the funniest parts of the game. Edgey is always at his funnist when annoyed :phoenix:

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Yeah, I see Gumshoe as the "Maya" in this situation and Edgey as the straight man (ha ha, so to speak :keiko:). I am thinking that Key Girl will be some sort of mysterious person that keeps popping up that knows more than she is letting on, and Edgey and Gumshoe have to find out who she really is. If this game has some interconnected cases, I think that it will culminate at the end with it being revealed that Key Girl was the "key" to the whole thing.


Part of me really wants Keygirl to turn into a villain... But that won't happen :sadshoe:
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I think the partners will be interchangeable. Like in one of the screenshots I think when Edgey is moving about there's a box in the touch screen labelled "Partner" with Gumshoe in it so I think simply tapping there will allow you to change your teammate...so I'm not worried that key girl will push him out. Besides Gumshoe will be worth more than just comic relief come on give him SOME credit he's played important roles in it.
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Yeah, Gumshoe has helped out a lot in the series (all the time, really), but his personality and actions usually set himself up for a lot of flak.
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True.Without him,I don't think Phoenix will win the cases^^
I hope he will be a lot funnier in GK.And he makes boring cases (Back to GS) fun! :gymshoe:
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Wow. How fucking poetic is that. I think that is worthy of haiku.

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Nice haiku! :will:

Anyways, to be honest, I think he will be just like in AA, since he always was somewhat free with information... :eh?:
That's why he is fired everytime (or why his salary keeps getting lower... :sadshoe:).

But yeah, I think he will be the detective he ever was, only somewhat more loyal because of his "special connection" with Edgeworth (1-4). :phoenix:
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I think Gumshoe will be slightly more credible.

I mean before he's been useful, giving Nick gadgets to find evidence, bringing evidence to Nick, letting him in on the scene, pulling strings in the police office, trying to give guns to pearly and probably making instant noodles!

Sure he's had his buffoonish outlook in the past but he's still been vital at times like in 2-4 which was bloody awesome I was horrified for a little bit at Gumshoe's actions but he still pulled through. Now he's actually a main character though he HAS to be more credible. Even Maya has her importance so if Gumshoe is the new Maya he needs to look more competent. Plus maybe...his side-on look shown in GK looks more sincere? I dunno.
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I think Gumshoe will be slightly more credible.

I mean before he's been useful, giving Nick gadgets to find evidence, bringing evidence to Nick, letting him in on the scene, pulling strings in the police office, trying to give guns to pearly and probably making instant noodles!

Sure he's had his buffoonish outlook in the past but he's still been vital at times like in 2-4 which was bloody awesome I was horrified for a little bit at Gumshoe's actions but he still pulled through. Now he's actually a main character though he HAS to be more credible. Even Maya has her importance so if Gumshoe is the new Maya he needs to look more competent. Plus maybe...his side-on look shown in GK looks more sincere? I dunno.


I agree.
Although he is very clumsy, he can be very useful too. Throughout the series, especially in 2-4, he gets you the important help that you need. Plus he seems to be very talented with electronics, look at the detector in 2-4; if I recall it correctly, he built that thing in elementary school! Pretty impressive for that age, huh? :butzthumbs:

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Exactly! Gumshoe is like inspector Gadget when it comes down to it, he was vital in case 1-4 providing Nick with just what he needed to solve the case.

It'll be the same except Edgey will need the gadgets and gizmos, it'll be 10 times better than Ema's 'science'.

Plus Gumshoe needs to get Edgey into all his crimescenes.
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Exactly! Gumshoe is like inspector Gadget when it comes down to it, he was vital in case 1-4 providing Nick with just what he needed to solve the case.


I like the comparison of Gumshoe and Inspector Gadget. Both seem to be clueless and incompetant, but at the end of the day they get the job done. Although, Gadget had to get his niece and dog to solve everything. Maybe KeyGirl will be to Gumshoe what Penny is to Gadget?
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I like the comparison of Gumshoe and Inspector Gadget. Both seem to be clueless and incompetant, but at the end of the day they get the job done. Although, Gadget had to get his niece and dog to solve everything. Maybe KeyGirl will be to Gumshoe what Penny is to Gadget?


That would be awesome. XD
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:garyuu: As awesome as that would be it's really Edgey's show so it's unlikely the sidekick will get...another sidekick...still the image of Gumshoe chasing key-girl for stealing something is very amusing
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:garyuu: As awesome as that would be it's really Edgey's show so it's unlikely the sidekick will get...another sidekick...still the image of Gumshoe chasing key-girl for stealing something is very amusing


Very true. You coudn't do the whole Inspector Gadget comparison with Edgeworth and Gumshoe (or KeyGirl) because Edgeworth just exudes competance. If he were any characters from that show it would either be the Chief or Dr. Claw (in his demon prosecutor days). I think it would be funny if there was a scene where Gumshoe tries to treat her like his assistant and she does something to embarrass him for trying it in the first place. What can I say, Gumshoe is a whipping boy for everyone.
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Ugh...unfortunately thats true still hopefully Kenji will make him seem more competent...he has to be he's working closely with Edgey full time now.
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