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Spoiler: MASSIVE HUGE ALMOST ENDGAME SPOILERS! Read ONLY if you want something REALLY major RUINED. You've been warned. I'm NOT kidding.


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You guys really should stop quoting that spoiler. I mean, I already read it and practically ruined the end of the game for myself. I don't think it's nice to put "OMG SPOILER!!" in front of a person who DON'T want to read spoilers that huge SOOOOO MANY TIMES. @_@;
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mahomomo wrote:
You guys really should stop quoting that spoiler. I mean, I already read it and practically ruined the end of the game for myself. I don't think it's nice to put "OMG SPOILER!!" in front of a person who DON'T want to read spoilers that huge SOOOOO MANY TIMES. @_@;

But do you get the refrence?
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mahomomo wrote:
You guys really should stop quoting that spoiler. I mean, I already read it and practically ruined the end of the game for myself. I don't think it's nice to put "OMG SPOILER!!" in front of a person who DON'T want to read spoilers that huge SOOOOO MANY TIMES. @_@;


That's true in a way, but the whole thread's only purpose is for spoilers on the last case, so... You know where I'm getting at, lol.
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I was crazy enough to look. I felt so Naauuuuuuuuuuuughhhhhhhhty. A cookie to whoever get's that refrence. May or may not be half eaten.


Courage the Cowardly Dog, from Barber Fred. *Takes cookie*

Actually, that spoiler had the same impact on me it would if I had actually played the game, so I'm good.
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Lol at Shiina's Wryyyyyyyyyyyyy-face. :gant:

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Lol at Shiina's Wryyyyyyyyyyyyy-face. :gant:


I swear that was among the most scary things I've seen in the whole series.
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Rain Faraday wrote:
mahomomo wrote:
You guys really should stop quoting that spoiler. I mean, I already read it and practically ruined the end of the game for myself. I don't think it's nice to put "OMG SPOILER!!" in front of a person who DON'T want to read spoilers that huge SOOOOO MANY TIMES. @_@;


That's true in a way, but the whole thread's only purpose is for spoilers on the last case, so... You know where I'm getting at, lol.

Yeah that's the reason why I'm in this thread. :sillytrucy:

But since it's such a HUGE spoiler (imo), I kinda regret spoiling something like that. The other spoilers I don't really care as much about. I'm just saying, to a person who wants to know more but not entirely ruin the game or this case for themselves... quoting that over and over must not make it easier for that person to avoid doing so. Right? Meh... that's what I thought at least.

But I already spoiled it for myself, so I guess I shouldn't really care at all... :yuusaku:
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mahomomo wrote:
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mahomomo wrote:
You guys really should stop quoting that spoiler. I mean, I already read it and practically ruined the end of the game for myself. I don't think it's nice to put "OMG SPOILER!!" in front of a person who DON'T want to read spoilers that huge SOOOOO MANY TIMES. @_@;


That's true in a way, but the whole thread's only purpose is for spoilers on the last case, so... You know where I'm getting at, lol.

Yeah that's the reason why I'm in this thread. :sillytrucy:

But since it's such a HUGE spoiler (imo), I kinda regret spoiling something like that. The other spoilers I don't really care as much about. I'm just saying, to a person who wants to know more but not entirely ruin the game or this case for themselves... quoting that over and over must not make it easier for that person to avoid doing so. Right? Meh... that's what I thought at least.

But I already spoiled it for myself, so I guess I shouldn't really care at all... :yuusaku:


Nah if it ruins it for people it's their own fault for reading a Case 5 discussion thread, no matter how big or small the spoiler.
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loobywright wrote:
mahomomo wrote:
Rain Faraday wrote:

That's true in a way, but the whole thread's only purpose is for spoilers on the last case, so... You know where I'm getting at, lol.

Yeah that's the reason why I'm in this thread. :sillytrucy:

But since it's such a HUGE spoiler (imo), I kinda regret spoiling something like that. The other spoilers I don't really care as much about. I'm just saying, to a person who wants to know more but not entirely ruin the game or this case for themselves... quoting that over and over must not make it easier for that person to avoid doing so. Right? Meh... that's what I thought at least.

But I already spoiled it for myself, so I guess I shouldn't really care at all... :yuusaku:


Nah if it ruins it for people it's their own fault for reading a Case 5 discussion thread, no matter how big or small the spoiler.


True true, I suppose there's no excuse.

But to anybody that hasn't read that spoiler and is tempted to... I suggest not reading it. ^^;
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I just got to "the reveal" of you-know-who's identity.

I effing called it.
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I didn't even imagine it. I'm short when it comes to this stuff. That and my Japanese being really lacking.
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Rain Faraday wrote:
Yes, this one is worse than those Harry Potter spoilers that were around when the last book was released. The difference is that I'm nice enough to put several warnings and make absolutely sure that if you see them is because you want to see them. So kids, be good and don't click, because that is a spoiler and plot twist of epic proportions!

By the time the game comes out I'll have forgotten it entirely.

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I just got to "the reveal" of you-know-who's identity.

I effing called it.


At what point did you realize?? I caught on a little while before it happened.

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When Shiina did her creepy smile sprite I was like... OH SHIT D: And then thought it was just me, until we found out the chimney swiveled.

I'm a little bit split on whether or not I like the twist. It's kind of like what they did in DMC4 - I'm happy because it was a great twist, but I'm upset that now there are fewer new characters than we thought. It's kind of like saying "this person never really existed" and since the game doesn't have many new fabulous characters I'm sorry to see one go.


Anyway, I finished last night at last! Damn the case was long. And I have to admit, but I was a little put out by the "final boss." It took forevvvver and the "boss" just isn't as amazing as the super spoilers that come before. By the time the 4th person leapt into the room to save them at the last minute I was saying, "Christ, isn't it over YET!?" And then it happened two more times. Gah!!
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loobywright wrote:
Rain Faraday wrote:
Spoiler: MASSIVE HUGE ALMOST ENDGAME SPOILERS! Read ONLY if you want something REALLY major RUINED. You've been warned. I'm NOT kidding.



..... :udgy:

Holy shit!!!!!

And I thought that Larry in the Steel Samurai caught me off guard! I will never see this woman in the same light ever again XD
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Croik wrote:
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I just got to "the reveal" of you-know-who's identity.

I effing called it.


At what point did you realize?? I caught on a little while before it happened.


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The thought occurred to me after case four and I got really suspicious when she went to arrest Mikumo right away. I always had her pegged as one of the final villains since we heard of her, and from there it just sort of clicked.


Anyways, I'm not quite done. I just saw the final boss' true form, if you will.
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Bolt Storm wrote:

Anyways, I'm not quite done. I just saw the final boss' true form, if you will.


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It's Carnage, isn't it? His name gives it away big time, but I'm spoiling this because the 'final boss' is usually the one that's most anticipated

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Haileyvoir wrote:
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It's Carnage, isn't it? His name gives it away big time, but I'm spoiling this because the 'final boss' is usually the one that's most anticipated


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Yes, it's him. I was a little disappointed with him.

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Croik wrote:
Haileyvoir wrote:
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It's Carnage, isn't it? His name gives it away big time, but I'm spoiling this because the 'final boss' is usually the one that's most anticipated


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Yes, it's him. I was a little disappointed with him.


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I hope they make his name less hinting in the localization, lol.

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I hope they make his name less hinting in the localization, lol.


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No no, they gotta keep it! Evil or not, that guy has an awesome name.

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Ooooooh man. Oh man. I should NOT have come into this thread...I avoided the Uber Spoiler, but I'm DYING to see it. I've spoiled too many games for myself already...but I don't know if I can wait until January to find out. :larry: I don't know if I can resist... :nick-sweat: It...won't totally ruin my playing experience, will it?
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Milady Midori wrote:
Ooooooh man. Oh man. I should NOT have come into this thread...I avoided the Uber Spoiler, but I'm DYING to see it. I've spoiled too many games for myself already...but I don't know if I can wait until January to find out. :larry: I don't know if I can resist... :nick-sweat: It...won't totally ruin my playing experience, will it?

Depends if spoilers ruin a game for you.
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Haileyvoir wrote:
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Ooooooh man. Oh man. I should NOT have come into this thread...I avoided the Uber Spoiler, but I'm DYING to see it. I've spoiled too many games for myself already...but I don't know if I can wait until January to find out. :larry: I don't know if I can resist... :nick-sweat: It...won't totally ruin my playing experience, will it?

Depends if spoilers ruin a game for you.
Hmm...Well like I've said, I've spoiled a lot of games for myself already. I still had fun with those. I was kinda wanting to find out for myself...but I don't think I can resist. Yeah, this is gonna drive me nuts. I'm gonna look. Here I gooooooo! *click*
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If you're going to spoil yourself, there's a video of it in my sig.

Hehehe...Yeah. I totally didn't think about the fact that its in Japanese. I have an idea what is going on, but I'm not sure. That wasn't too bad. *Feels silly now*
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It isn't too bad if you don't know what is it supposed to be, of course. But when you're playing (if you still remember when the game comes out in the US or EU) you'll say... OH... I know who this person is.
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It isn't too bad if you don't know what is it supposed to be, of course. But when you're playing (if you still remember when the game comes out in the US or EU) you'll say... OH... I know who this person is.
The US release is about...6 or 7 months away. I'll probably forget by then. :larry2:
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Spoiler: names
Carnage Onred seems to be an english pun, and as such, I expect that it'll be turned into either a german name or a german sounding name to fit with the shifting in versions

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Carnage Onred seems to be an english pun, and as such, I expect that it'll be turned into either a german name or a german sounding name to fit with the shifting in versions


They won't really need to, since he comes from a made up country anyway. "Carnage Onred" sounds nothing like an American name after all :eh?:
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Carnage Onred seems to be an english pun, and as such, I expect that it'll be turned into either a german name or a german sounding name to fit with the shifting in versions


They won't really need to, since he comes from a made up country anyway. "Carnage Onred" sounds nothing like an American name after all :eh?:

But the words are english, therefor, if his name was kept the same in translation, it wouldn't as forign as it does in the Japanese version. But it probably wouldn't be german. He seems more like a "Western" European guy to me. You know, Spain and Portugal and-I have no idea where I'm going with this anymore. Whups.
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Or they could just change the spelling like they did with LeTouse.
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Croik wrote:
Haileyvoir wrote:
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It's Carnage, isn't it? His name gives it away big time, but I'm spoiling this because the 'final boss' is usually the one that's most anticipated


Spoiler:
Yes, it's him. I was a little disappointed with him.


Spoiler:
Haha, i thought his theme music, and his "Power-up" animation where pretty awesome. I'm guessing his character is supposed to be a play on an ancient Wooden tree? I mean his ending animation scream "Burning tree!" Weird villain aside, Shiina/Kazura was pretty good, and her evil laugh scared the hell out of me.
Also this case makes it official, in terms of Badassness Rou>Godot. Sorry Godot even vizor powers won't get you to Rou's awesomeness in this case. Also what was going on mid-way through the case? They played a security video, then Carnage walked in and i'm guessing told them to get out, then Rou walked in said some stuff, then pointed at Franziska who responded with a pissed off look.
After that we end up at the crime scene, Franziska tries whipping Rou, who awesomely does what an awesome person would do, grabs her whip.

Just what was the dialogue going on there?


Anyway petty pickings aside this case was truly awesome. Also you guys say this case is long? Go back and play 1-5, THAT CASE goes on forever. I think really 4-4 had perfect length for a final case and didn't over do things too much.
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So far, Shiina/Kazura's made more of a lasting impression on me as a 'final boss' type figure, as much as it seems Carnage was meant to be a larger figure overall. Then again, that could change upon playing the localisation. Maybe Carnage is more of a scary mastermind figure than I see him as being at the moment.

Also, despite it apparently being an English pun in a Japanese game, I didn't find Carnage's name suspicious at all. .____. Shows how good I am at picking up hints.
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Why are we talking in tags, this is one of the threads where we don't have to!

When Rou showed up at that point he accused Franziska of being the killer, as she was one of the only outsiders allowed into the Arebast part of the embassy. He convinced Carnage that because they were so close to solving the case and apprehending the real suspect that all he needed was a little more time at the crime scene. Carnage accepted and let them come back inside, but of course Edgeworth was able to prove it was not Franziska but Carnage himself who killed MDMII.

Rou then revealed that was his plan all along, and Franziska sort of forgave him.

I'm not sure if part of Carnage's name is in reference to trees, but there is one in his office that looks suspiciously like him. There might be another pun in his name we haven't picked up on yet.
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Haha, okay thanks. Franzy being accused of being the killer, that would've been annoying.
Also yeah i noticed the tree looked a lot like his "1st forms" face. (I'm going to call him 1st and 2nd form now, because he has one of the most significant transformations of any AA character)
I did like how when he first goes into his 2nd form and your supposed to point out the medal in the video, he flashes it at you just before the game asks you point it out.
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Croik wrote:
I'm not sure if part of Carnage's name is in reference to trees, but there is one in his office that looks suspiciously like him. There might be another pun in his name we haven't picked up on yet.


My theory:
カーネイジ・オンレッド → カーネーション・レッド → レッド・カーネーション→ Red Carnation
Figure it fits with the whole nature thing.
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In case five: Missile is backkkkkkk!!!!!!!!! AHhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

SO funny!^^
Anyway I don't know where I am in the case: midcase maybe... YOu know I'm where you discover The fingerprints of someone on the statue... I love this case!^^
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I can't stop reading this thread.

...What were the villains like? As, uh, villains? Their personalities, I mean.
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One has an amazing personality. The other one is more bland but it's as if he evolves like a pokemon which was nice.
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