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Doom: As far as I'm concerned, 'Perfect Prosecutor' has created it's own Canon. Most of the news sites are calling it that, or 'Ace Prosecutor', and only one I've seen has called it Gyakuten Kenji. Until we get something more official, I think Perfect Prosecutor has a nice ring to it, and more importantly, everyone knows what you're talking about when you mention it.
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jj984jj wrote:
The Japanese title is Gyakuten Kenji so it's definitely Turnabout Prosecutor. The person who posted the news on NeoGAF admitted that it was just alliteration. Personally I think Capcom USA will either keep this name (or give it a similar one) to avoid confusion with the main titles, or they'll just stick with Ace Attorney.

Gyakuten Saiban means Turnabout Court, but we didn't stick with that.

Personally, I think either Perfect Prosecutor or Ace Attorney are the best choices.

But Perfect Prosecutor should be reserved for Franny. Assuming she gets a game. Which she should, because I would enjoy the Whip a Gumshoe minigame.
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But this is post T&T Edgey, which means he's no longer obsessed with his "perfect" win record. I still like "Professional Prosecutor". It's a longer title, yeah, but when you think of Edgeworth, you think "consummate professional". Plus, "ProPro" has a nice ring to it. XD
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Writer Awakened wrote:
But this is post T&T Edgey
Is it really? I was under the heavy impression that it was a prequel :yuusaku:
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Gyakuten Phoenix wrote:
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But this is post T&T Edgey
Is it really? I was under the heavy impression that it was a prequel :yuusaku:

Yeah, I was too.
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No. According to Tuesday's translation of the Famitsu article, it takes place "around GS3" That's what I've heard most frequently, at least. It would make sense if it was set after 3-5.
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Writer Awakened wrote:
No. According to Tuesday's translation of the Famitsu article, it takes place "around GS3" That's what I've heard most frequently, at least. It would make sense if it was set after 3-5.

But remember, it could still be before GS3. It says "Around GS3," and not after GS3.
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Superninfreak wrote:
Turnabout Prosocutor is a translation of the Japanese name, like if they called the Ace Attorney series Turnabout Trial.

It might have some kind of thing where the initials (other than "Miles Edgeworth") are 2 of the same letters like "Miles Edgeworth: Perfect Prosectutor", or it could be called "Miles Edgeworth: Ace Prosecutor" or something diffrant.

I'm guessing it will have his name in the title though.


Miles Edgeworth: Ace Prosecutor... Heh. MEAP.

Anyway, I like Perfect Prosecutor.

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Blademaster_Orca wrote:
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Miles Edgeworth isn't a Turnabout Prosecutor. It sounds a little awkward. If anything, it'd make sense to make it Ace Attorney, seeing as prosecutors are attorneys, too.

I'd rather it have a different name from Ace Attorney, or at least add/change something (aside from the character name, of course) to further establish it as a spin-off and not just as another game in the series.


Besides, if they just stick with the AA title and someone plays this game first, it could give them the wrong impression about the other games. I mean, if it's called 'Miles Edgeworth: Ace Attorney', and it doesn't focus on trials/court scenes, isn't that a bit misleading?

Perfect Prosecutor is even more misleading, I fail to see your point. :haykitten:
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I don't know if this is relevant to this topic but, does anyone know when the English one will be released? :eh?:
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No. According to Tuesday's translation of the Famitsu article, it takes place "around GS3" That's what I've heard most frequently, at least. It would make sense if it was set after 3-5.

But remember, it could still be before GS3. It says "Around GS3," and not after GS3.

Not to mention if you want to really split hairs, if it's "around GS3", that covers... well, the ENTIRE timeline (obviously excluding Apollo's end of the timeline), given 3-4 is before 1-1 in chronological order. You could fit an entire trilogy's worth of game cases for Edgeworth in between 3-4 and 3-5 because of that :P
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i wonder how are they going to start the fist turnabout
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I'd like to see it called something like "Ace Attorney: Public Prosecutor". I can't imagine them bothering to try to establish "Miles Edgeworth" as a brand, because a second Edgeworth game doesn't seem too likely. I expect it will be mostly existing Ace Attorney fans who'll pick it up. :yuusaku: I could be wrong.
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I prefer Perfect over something like 'Ace' or 'Professional'. Why? Well, I think it has a better illiteration with Prosecutor. It also gives ol' Worthy that feeling of superiority.

And so what if it's not accurate? I mean, for most of his cases, Phoenix isn't really an 'Ace'.
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Mr. Thunder wrote:
I prefer Perfect over something like 'Ace' or 'Professional'. Why? Well, I think it has a better illiteration with Prosecutor. It also gives ol' Worthy that feeling of superiority.

And so what if it's not accurate? I mean, for most of his cases, Phoenix isn't really an 'Ace'.


I think that too.

Also, I LOVE the Gumshoe involvement :karma:
I mean, since Gumshoe can't get his own game it's good that he's heavily involved in thsi one :)
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Actually, Gumshoe did get his own game, it had something to do with Poker if I remember correctly.
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But Perfect Prosecutor should be reserved for Franny. Assuming she gets a game. Which she should, because I would enjoy the Whip a Gumshoe minigame.

that minigame will be the armageddon of DS touch screens as we know it.
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But Perfect Prosecutor should be reserved for Franny. Assuming she gets a game. Which she should, because I would enjoy the Whip a Gumshoe minigame.

that minigame will be the armageddon of DS touch screens as we know it.



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Not to mention if you want to really split hairs, if it's "around GS3", that covers... well, the ENTIRE timeline (obviously excluding Apollo's end of the timeline), given 3-4 is before 1-1 in chronological order. You could fit an entire trilogy's worth of game cases for Edgeworth in between 3-4 and 3-5 because of that :p


I think essentially that 3-4 is mostly a special case, however, and as such is to be treated as just a memory of the event, thus not really be a setting to place a new game around.

I'd like to assume that this is a 'What edgeworth did after Bridge to...' finished - with the disbarment of phoenix, and the disappearance of maya, Miles's activities after 3-5 are the ones fans would most like to understand, and I think that happenings AFTER T&T is finished are more important to establish than those before Miles's revelations as a prosecutor.

I'm sure dozens of fans are more anxious to know what happened next rather than play as jerkworth in cases that were rammed on before the current continuity line...and Capcom, smart cookies they should be, surely can understand that well enough.

I'd hope so, at least. XD
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I don't think "Professional Prosecutor" rolls off the tongue as well as "Perfect Prosecutor". Plus, I don't see the Perfect as meaning his record, but more the way he does things. I don't like "Ace Prosecutor" as much because you lose the assonance (aliterations are with consonants, by the way, so Perfect Prosecutor is one, but Ace Attorney isn't).
So I'm for either keeping "Ace Attorney", even if it's a spinoff enough that it probably shouldn't be called that (from what I've heard, there isn't even a part in the courtroom, it's only investigation), or using "Perfect Prosecutor" or another PP name. But I don't like "Professional". I just think it's a bit stupid, as, well, Prosecutor is his profession, so every single prosecutor is a professional prosecutor. It's just too redundant.
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I believe it will be Perfect Prosecutor instead of Ace Attorney because of the alliteration. :meekins:
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If it's going to be "around T&T" then it must happen after it and before AJ, Gumshoe himself tells Edgeworth that "he hasn't seen him in a year" during 3-5.
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It's either Perfect Prosecutor or Miles Edgeworth's Moonwalker.

I hope it's the latter.
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If it's going to be "around T&T" then it must happen after it and before AJ, Gumshoe himself tells Edgeworth that "he hasn't seen him in a year" during 3-5.

Ah, but 1-5 is proof that Capcom is willing to retcon for the sake of Edgeworth.

I think they'll just stick with the Ace Attorney name, since it's the brand name of the entire series.
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Well according to what is said on wikipedia regarding this, they said the timeline is gonna be before Trails and tribulations and possibly maybe one or 2 cases during the 7 year gap after phoenix loses the badge (The last bit is kindof what i think)
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Bigbrownie wrote:
Well according to what is said on wikipedia regarding this, they said the timeline is gonna be before Trails and tribulations and possibly maybe one or 2 cases during the 7 year gap after phoenix loses the badge (The last bit is kindof what i think)


Don't trust what you hear on Wikipedia. We've had a few contradicting reports.

#1. Takes Place while Edgeworth is 'Jerkworth' in GS1
#2. Takes Place Before GS3
#3. Takes Place Right after GS3

Other then that, I remember something along the terms of it being GS2's length.

Nothing about the number of cases and nothing specifically about the 7 year gap.
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I like the title "Perfect Prosecutor"

Ace Attorney: AA
Perfect Prosecutor: PP

See the connection? :think:
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I like the title "Perfect Prosecutor"

Ace Attorney: AA
Perfect Prosecutor: PP

See the connection? :think:



that's what I was thinking when I 1st heard it.
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If it's going to be "around T&T" then it must happen after it and before AJ, Gumshoe himself tells Edgeworth that "he hasn't seen him in a year" during 3-5.


But JFA states that Edgeworth was never seen in court again after 1-4, and yet we have 1-5.
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It's been subtly mentioned, but I'll say it anyways.

Why not
'Miles Edgeworth: Ace Attorney: ??? (Guilty Love *mamed*)'
Keeps brand, gives Edgeworth his own established side story, allows for Prosecutory, criminal lock upy, turth getty sub-titles...

And leaves Perfect Prosecutor to a von Karma, who deserves it.
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lol, bump.

I think it should be just "Turnabout Prosecutor", without Edgey's name. I think that sounds more like a spin-off.

If it turns out to be "Miles Edgeworth: Whatever Prosecutor", we'll have to deal with The Double Subtitles of Doom again when it gets a sequel.
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I think it should be just "Turnabout Prosecutor", without Edgey's name. I think that sounds more like a spin-off.

If it turns out to be "Miles Edgeworth: Whatever Prosecutor", we'll have to deal with The Double Subtitles of Doom again when it gets a sequel.


Hehe, true about the subtitles of doom. ^_^;; But, I have a feeling that it's going to indeed become "Miles Edgeworth: Perfect Prosecutor" or something along those lines.
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But JFA states that Edgeworth was never seen in court again after 1-4, and yet we have 1-5.


1-5 was made after all the other games were completed. It's considered ret-con and does not take into account some of the facts from the other games, but does allude to them.

I kind of like the sound of Professional Prosecutor myself.
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I like the name "Perfect Prosecutor". It suits him perfectly (Oh, I didn't even notice that when I first typed it...), whether he's going to be the Von Karma Perfect or Good Perfect (as Cissy just explained). I think "Professional Prosecutor" is too long and awkward, but "Pro Prosecutor" sounds good, and it's closer to "Ace Attorney" than "Perfect Prosecutor" is ("Ace Attorney" and "Pro Prosecutor" are both a short, good word followed by the longer job description). Just having Ace Attorney would be a little bleh, but not that bad. Anything else and I will not like it. :edgeworth:
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I agree that "Perfect Prosecutor" sounds better than "Pro Prosecutor", but "Pro Prosecutor" is closer to "Ace Attorney" than "Perfect Prosecutor". (In terms of format and number of syllables.) Of course, that doesn't mean it's better. ;)
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I've noticed that most people's complaints with that name "Perfect Prosecutor" was that being "perfect" goes against all the character development Edgey did in GS1-GS3, but I like to think of it in another way: Edgeworth, now that he's realized the true meaning of being a prosecutor, is trying his best to be the "ideal" prosecutor under those new terms he's laid down; in other words, he's not trying to be a "Von Karma Perfect" but rather he wants to perfect his new prosecutor lifestyle of "always finding the truth".

Basically, it's "Perfect Prosecutor Edgeworth", not "Perfect Von Karma is a Perfect Perfectionist of Perfection".


I totally agree with this statement. ^_^

Edit: I just noticed in the December issue of Play Magazine, they had some Tokyo Game Show coverage. And they call GK "Miles Edgeworth: Pro Prosecutor."

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The English title's not finalized... and it's not coming out in Japan until Spring of next year, so it'll take a while, unfortunately. =/

Frankly, 'Perfect Prosecutor' sounds strange to me. Miles himself believes 'nothing is perfect', so it wouldn't fit him to be called that. Or something.

And ... I prefer Miles Edgeworth: Ace Attorney. Like others have said, he's a prosecuting attorney, and although there aren't any court scenes in the game, he's still doing what an attorney does in the AA world. (Pretty much...)

Phoenix did detective work in his games too, but he actually had court scenes...

Yet Miles still interrogates people... and I can't really say anymore since we still don't know much about the game, so I'll shut up right now. :udgy:
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